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Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-09-2002 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJTJ

I don't think this is always true - I think the best thing to do is to adjst the track that is quietest, so before the halfway-point (crossover point, or whatever you call it ) I would adjust the incoming track, and afterwards then i would adjust the outgoing track. If you adjust the louder of the two tracks then it's going to be more noticeable, surely?


on the contrary

the track that you are fading out is the quieter one...by this time you should already have the incoming track beatmatched. This way..the incoming track is louder *bass etc* you want to adjust the track that is goin out....it sounds weird.....but it works

think of it this way.....people are going to notice you correct the louder track.....u want to adjust the quieter one that way the louder one sounds like it waw brought in correctly

give it a try....u'd be suprised how well it works


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-09-2002 05:59:

quote:
Originally posted by BillyBoy59
DJ Liquid...look mate...any adjustment should be as unnoticable as possible...Are u seriously telling me U NEVER adjust the incoming track...if this is the case, then your full of shit... ...A DJ naturally adjusts the record which is easiest to do so...In other words s/he adjusts the one which they can manipulate without the listener noticing.


fine by me..im just trying to pass on the knowledge. i myself used to adjust the incoming track..till i was taught by one of my friends who can out spin the best.

****PLEASE NOTE THAT WHEN I BRING IN A TRACK IT IS ALREADY MATCHED UP....meaning it sounds ok on beat when i bring it in...im talking about minor adjustments...if you cant do so yet....u need to work on that first******


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-09-2002 06:06:

ok im going to post a sample........

show you guys that im LEGIT


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-09-2002 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors


Nipple.. that would be the little metal thing where you stick your records into, would it
And yeah, always correct the outgoing one, never the incoming one. Disaster for the latter
yea the metal thing in the center



Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-09-2002 06:23:

http://www.johnnyvegas.org/dj_liquid/liquid.rm

there you go

By the way........this is Underground House.......i dont have any trance examples at the moment


Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-09-2002 17:46:

That's a lot of consecutive posts, Liquid

By the way, that sample you just posted, it's flawless! I was watching out for the transition and when it ended I was like "Where was that?" Man, it's terrific!


Posted by JohnSmith on Apr-09-2002 21:05:

I agree, that's a very nice mix.. i could tell, but only because i was listening for it.


Posted by skywarp on Apr-09-2002 21:37:

Correct a mix ? What do you mean "correct a mix" !? I just grab a microphone and shout out something while quickly fading out the outgoing track. *shakes head* You people make things too hard on yourselves ...


Posted by DJTJ on Apr-09-2002 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ LIQUID
think of it this way.....people are going to notice you correct the louder track.....u want to adjust the quieter one that way the louder one sounds like it waw brought in correctly


Erm... Isn't that what I said?


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-10-2002 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
That's a lot of consecutive posts, Liquid

By the way, that sample you just posted, it's flawless! I was watching out for the transition and when it ended I was like "Where was that?" Man, it's terrific!


Posted by patticus on Apr-10-2002 06:26:

ive been messing around on the decks with changing speeds.. quickly and back.

say for example, if its a lil' fast and you're playing at 45 rpm then u quickly hit the 33 rpm button and instantly switch back to 45..

the sound is about the same as a finger push/drag on the platter

but maybe a little more accurate? heh.

of couse, if u slip and dont switch it back INSTANTANEOSLY
your entire mix is fvcked

but its a new idea eh?


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-10-2002 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by patticus
ive been messing around on the decks with changing speeds.. quickly and back.

say for example, if its a lil' fast and you're playing at 45 rpm then u quickly hit the 33 rpm button and instantly switch back to 45..

the sound is about the same as a finger push/drag on the platter

but maybe a little more accurate? heh.

of couse, if u slip and dont switch it back INSTANTANEOSLY
your entire mix is fvcked

but its a new idea eh?

thats pretty inventive

what do u do if you need to slow it down and its a 33? (turn the power on and off?)


Posted by Xquisite on Apr-10-2002 07:06:

lol, i usually correct the incoming track since it's playing like at 1/4 the volume compared to the outgoing one. My reasons for doing that is because the incoming one is quieter than the outgoing one, and i need to have it beat matched long enough so it wont gallop when i'm bringing the bass up on the incoming and decreasing the bass on the outgoing. All n'sync


Posted by patticus on Apr-10-2002 08:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ LIQUID

thats pretty inventive

what do u do if you need to slow it down and its a 33? (turn the power on and off?)


then i spose you'd use the other deck, hehe.. and if not possible then you gotta use yorr hands!

i just been goofing around with this, haven't tried it yet in a set or out live.. heh.
and obviosly you have to know the decks you're working with, u wouldnt want to try this with some crappy numarks or something


Posted by DJTJ on Apr-10-2002 12:46:

quote:
Originally posted by patticus
ive been messing around on the decks with changing speeds.. quickly and back.

say for example, if its a lil' fast and you're playing at 45 rpm then u quickly hit the 33 rpm button and instantly switch back to 45..

the sound is about the same as a finger push/drag on the platter

but maybe a little more accurate? heh.

of couse, if u slip and dont switch it back INSTANTANEOSLY
your entire mix is fvcked

but its a new idea eh?


I've tried this before. Turns out that the 45 button has a higher "priority" than the 33 button. That is, if you are playing a 33 record and you want to speed it up temporarily, hold down the 33 button and quicly press on and off the 45 button and it speeds up a bit. Doesn't work the other way though, you can't hold down the 45 button and quickly press the 33 button, because the 45 button overrides the 33 button.


Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-10-2002 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by DJTJ


I've tried this before. Turns out that the 45 button has a higher "priority" than the 33 button. That is, if you are playing a 33 record and you want to speed it up temporarily, hold down the 33 button and quicly press on and off the 45 button and it speeds up a bit. Doesn't work the other way though, you can't hold down the 45 button and quickly press the 33 button, because the 45 button overrides the 33 button.


Sheesh that's DEFINATELY something new I learnt in here today! I never knew there were priority speeds..


Posted by DJTJ on Apr-10-2002 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors


Sheesh that's DEFINATELY something new I learnt in here today! I never knew there were priority speeds..


I'm not sure if it's like that by design... It's probably just the way it turned out!


Posted by mute79 on Apr-10-2002 19:18:

could be a fluke, or it could be that they thought of EVERYTHING... *shrugs*


Posted by Great Outdoors on Apr-11-2002 09:50:

I would like to think it's the latter..

That avatar looks dead familiar. Bill Gates at 20?


Posted by d-jay MyTH on Apr-12-2002 00:17:

Hello!

dj liquid- i don't know whether i'm a perfectionist or not but i thought there was a flaw with that sample. in that you should have kept the outgoing song right in up until the breakdown of the second track (even if just slightly). it has maximum impact on the listener then. but i can never manage to do this all the time cos u have to know u trax totally inside out. Also right in between the crossfading(the middle) it appears that you have the bass equally loud for each song which gives a slightly hollow effect to the beat for about 5 secs or so. u should turn the incoming tracks bass right up and the incoming ones even more down.

but it was a pretty flawless mix. it's like the guy above me said i could only notice it cos i was listening out for it. in a club i would barely have noticed it! i'm just talking about personal listening. thx for the sample. and if u think i'm wrong pls tell me to shut up, it all comes down to personal pref really.


Regards

d-jay MyTH


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Apr-12-2002 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by d-jay MyTH
dj liquid- i don't know whether i'm a perfectionist or not but i thought there was a flaw with that sample. in that you should have kept the outgoing song right in up until the breakdown of the second track (even if just slightly). it has maximum impact on the listener then. but i can never manage to do this all the time cos u have to know u trax totally inside out. Also right in between the crossfading(the middle) it appears that you have the bass equally loud for each song which gives a slightly hollow effect to the beat for about 5 secs or so. u should turn the incoming tracks bass right up and the incoming ones even more down.

but it was a pretty flawless mix. it's like the guy above me said i could only notice it cos i was listening out for it. in a club i would barely have noticed it! i'm just talking about personal listening. thx for the sample. and if u think i'm wrong pls tell me to shut up, it all comes down to personal pref really.


Regards

d-jay MyTH


i welcome your opinion

it was just something i threw together....ehh i dont know my trax inside out...thats like the 3rd time i played that track...just note that its not mastered and its in real audio.
yea when played loud you cant even notice....i was spinning using some big speakers
that and also im experimenting with a new way of mixing....all part of the evolution process

im doin a Mix CD here in the next few weeks..that will get mastered so it will sound all peachy


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