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Posted by venomX on Nov-20-2006 03:31:

Also i doubt it's a virus. I have yet to see a virus behave that way, and in all truth it would be a pretty lame virus if it just renamed files without actually damaging them. So running an antivirus wont help much imo.


Posted by emc^2 on Nov-20-2006 03:31:

quote:
Originally posted by venomX
I agree with you depending on where the corruption happened. If the machine is running fine i doubt the corruption is of the whole MFT, its more likely just those sectors and chkdsk will correct the errors in the sectors. chkdsk might be more damaging only if the sectors are physically fux0red, because then the files will be lost. if it happened because of a particular program, the program probably just messed up those particular entries in the MFT and chkdsk can fix that.



why risk it?


Posted by venomX on Nov-20-2006 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
why risk it?


true, i would risk it if it were my computer and my files, but then again i could probably recuperate them if i messed them up with the chkdsk


Posted by EXTREMUM on Nov-20-2006 03:37:

He should Ghost image the drive, and worry about messing with it, afterwards.


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 03:38:

OK OK guys. i may not be as knowledgeable as you, but i think i know my way around computers a bit.

first things first. PLEASE stop fighting. i'll help you kill eachother later.

now... if it were file system corruption, would i be able to still play the files perfectly?

edit: this doesn't really seem like a virus to me either, as venom says.

[email protected]; add me to msn please so you can try to help me sort this out live.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Nov-20-2006 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
OK OK guys. i may not be as knowledgeable as you, but i think i know my way around computers a bit.

first things first. PLEASE stop fighting. i'll help you kill eachother later.

now... if it were file system corruption, would i be able to still play the files perfectly?

edit: this doesn't really seem like a virus to me either, as venom says.


It's possible that it's not a virus, but seeing all those numerical sub-folders in your My Documents folder looks abnormal - I just brought it up, as a possibility. However, emc^2 had the nerve to get in my face - how mature...


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by EXTREMUM
It's possible that it's not a virus, but seeing all those numerical sub-folders in your My Documents folder looks abnormal - I just brought it up, as a possibility. However, emc^2 had the nerve to get in my face - how mature...


thats my 'incoming' folder, not my My Documents


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 03:51:

my biggest problem lies in what will happen on reboot. it will just eventually happen, as when the power dies (power outs are normal here) and our generator goes out, it will die.

yeah, i know hard powerdowns are a bitch but i dont have a say in this. and i can't think how a hard powerdown could cause this, as it was fine for the last 6 hours, and changed all of a sudden.

current details:

- all files present.
- all files play/open, given the proper program.
- 3 folders, aside from Windows-created folders (my documents, program files, etc) were not renamed; 'incoming', 'download', and 'samples'. the contents of the first two were all renamed, but the contents of 'samples' still has about 3 files, out of a few thousand, in original state.

add me to MSN: [email protected]


Posted by emc^2 on Nov-20-2006 03:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
thats my 'incoming' folder, not my My Documents


LMAO!!! I guess he didn't get it after all those times I told him that "My Documents" was not involved. But he's a tech expert. I just can't help but laugh. Shit, even my wife, who is taking intro to computers can tell the difference between different folders and how to determine where she is in the dir tree.

LOL. extremium must enjoy abuse pwnage tho he gets extra points for his persistance.


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 03:53:

guys. seriously. let's not start a flamewar.


Posted by Orbital32 on Nov-20-2006 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
my biggest problem lies in what will happen on reboot. it will just eventually happen, as when the power dies (power outs are normal here) and our generator goes out, it will die.

yeah, i know hard powerdowns are a bitch but i dont have a say in this. and i can't think how a hard powerdown could cause this, as it was fine for the last 6 hours, and changed all of a sudden.

current details:

- all files present.
- all files play/open, given the proper program.
- 3 folders, aside from Windows-created folders (my documents, program files, etc) were not renamed; 'incoming', 'download', and 'samples'. the contents of the first two were all renamed, but the contents of 'samples' still has about 3 files, out of a few thousand, in original state.

add me to MSN: [email protected]


Easy, its screw ups your registry and/or possibly your Master Fat Table. Either one screws up.. youzzz fuck. Hopefully you have made an Emergency Repair disk in windows, that will fix it. Which reminds me i need to do that!


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
Easy, its screw ups your registry and/or possibly your Master Fat Table. Either one screws up.. youzzz fuck. Hopefully you have made an Emergency Repair disk in windows, that will fix it. Which reminds me i need to do that!


hey hey hey. an emergency repair disk will fix this? can i make one now? can i use one from another PC? elaborate plasee.


Posted by Orbital32 on Nov-20-2006 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
hey hey hey. an emergency repair disk will fix this? can i make one now? can i use one from another PC? elaborate plasee.


fortunaley, you can't make it on another computer. it's computer, files, harware specific. But on a good note, if you use a ERD disk from another computer you'll probably just screw up the computer even more. Its one of those things that you should do about once a week.


Posted by Dervish on Nov-20-2006 04:54:

Let me get this right you tried sending them a good few times then they all went to random numbers?

Sounds to me like whatever you were using converted them for transmission (surprising that it didn't just on the fly backup and convert them - unless you bulk sent a folder?) then promptly fell on it's arse and left them in the screwed state. No virus.

I'd check the temp folder (though to be honest these sounds like what should be in there so will probebly have nothing) could be some in there. Try a "*.mp3" search across all drive to see if the dumb program backed them up anywhere.

If not I'd look on the net for similar problems with the software (might have some file hidden somewhere which is ment to rename the files after transmission, maybe even contained within the file?). If the ID tags are still there and they run it sounds like it was just the names that got screwed, could take awhile if there isn't a way to use the tag data to rename them (could write a script I supose?) to rename them but you could.

Anyway first port of call the forums for the transmission software.


Posted by monishb on Nov-20-2006 05:27:

Have you tried using windows system restore?

oh btw it looks like you have a virus.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Nov-20-2006 05:30:

just format.


Posted by Orbital32 on Nov-20-2006 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by MLB
Have you tried using windows system restore?

oh btw it looks like you have a virus.


What conclusion lead you to that? Just because there are random numbers?


Posted by monishb on Nov-20-2006 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
What conclusion lead you to that? Just because there are random numbers?


had the same problem in the past, was some sort of virus i checked last time.


Posted by Orbital32 on Nov-20-2006 05:50:

quote:
Originally posted by MLB
had the same problem in the past, was some sort of virus i checked last time.


few virsus are limit renaming only to limiting a directory, in his case /incoming/
most would search the hard drives particualry for mp3 files or such. He states that everything else is intact. Apparently since he his place runs on generators and is seems that he had hard shut downs in the past, its most likey a registry or MFT problem. Actually now that i think of it, it's probalby the second.


Hmmmm....

a light bulb just hit me!

if he using NTFS, the the operating system automactically creates a backup of the MFT in the middle of the drive. IF this is such the case, the its just a simple reconfiguring of the MBR then waaalaa! you are golden! hooray me!


Posted by ali92 on Nov-20-2006 06:51:

If the files are fully intact and just need to be renamed. Perhaps you can use a mass-rename tool, such as the one built in Foobar2000, to name the files from tags.


Posted by Ivand on Nov-20-2006 10:46:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
If the files are fully intact and just need to be renamed. Perhaps you can use a mass-rename tool, such as the one built in Foobar2000, to name the files from tags.


win, only mp3s were affected amirite?


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 13:14:

there were other files renamed too, even outside the 'incoming folder'



current situation: power went out. so effectively, a reboot. i'm on my sister's PC atm, because when it rebooted, it just went to a black screen saying NTDR is missing, press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart



so, where to from here?


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 13:17:

also, i got to run an AV scan before the power died. trend micro online scanner + panda AV, and both were inconclusive. a couple of spyware crapplings, but nothin that looked anywhere capable of doing this


Posted by Orbital32 on Nov-20-2006 13:25:

I'm saying with the power situation that you have, it's not a virsus, but the hard shutdowns. it's very bad mmm kay.


you can try this:

1. Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer.
2. When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key.
3. Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair Windows.
4. Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and pressing enter.
5. You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that password.
6. Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard disk. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM drive letter "E". This letter may be different on your computer.

copy e:\i386\ntldr c:\
copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\

7. Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD from the computer and reboot.


But as the sun rises on another day, even if that gets your computer to boot up, that won't even solve you main problem


Oh hopefully when you run chkdsk, you are running with the /F switch. Oh Yeah!


Posted by Inertia on Nov-20-2006 13:36:

yeah, i thre the /F in there. hrm.

i thought about the windows repair. at this point, im happy if i keep my shit as it was, and my PC can boot up.


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