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Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-03-2006 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
I am extremely afraid of death.


It's about time somebody gave an honest fucking answer.


Posted by Sunsnail on Dec-03-2006 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
It's about time somebody gave an honest fucking answer.


Why do you say that?


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-03-2006 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
Why do you say that?


Because everybody is afraid to die - they can say they aren't afraid all they want to, and they can even convince themselves of it too, almost religiously, but that's only because they do not quite understand how oblivious we are to our own mortality most of the time - it's an innate function of sentience. And people who claim they have "faced death straight in the face" or something along those lines are either exaggerating or outright lying - they may have been in a situation where they have been uncertain of their own death but to romanticize it any further is just bullshit.

Instill the fear of certain, imminent death into anybody and they will panic for their lives.

To not be afraid of death is to not be afraid of anything because, when you die, you lose it all.


Posted by Dervish on Dec-03-2006 20:49:

I disagree. If you are in a situation where you know you are going to die you can accept it.

People are just scared of dying too early and unexpectedly.

Personally I'm more scared of at some point spending my days in some chair with no-one to talk to or care about me while pissing and shitting myself and realising that I'm probebly losing my marbles at the same time. With nothing to look forward to, and memories of how great life can be while realising you'll never do any of that again ever.

I find that FAR more scary than death fuck dying at 90.


Posted by Yan on Dec-03-2006 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
If you are in a situation where you know you are going to die you can accept it.


Personally, that's untrue. It's really situational.


Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-03-2006 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Because everybody is afraid to die - they can say they aren't afraid all they want to, and they can even convince themselves of it too, almost religiously, but that's only because they do not quite understand how oblivious we are to our own mortality most of the time - it's an innate function of sentience. And people who claim they have "faced death straight in the face" or something along those lines are either exaggerating or outright lying - they may have been in a situation where they have been uncertain of their own death but to romanticize it any further is just bullshit.

Instill the fear of certain, imminent death into anybody and they will panic for their lives.

To not be afraid of death is to not be afraid of anything because, when you die, you lose it all.


I don't want to die, but I'm certainly not afraid to die. If someone was truly afraid of death, they wouldn't do things such as skydive, or bungee jump. I want to do both of those things.


Posted by Dervish on Dec-03-2006 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
Personally, that's untrue. It's really situational.


Yeah totally depends on the situation.

But I dunno really because everyone accepts that they are going to die (at some point). But it's the knowing you are going to die that seems to cause the problems, and the manner.

If someone told me I was going to sleep and not get up I could handle that, but if I was in the middle of a road with a bus comming straight at me I'd be shit scared (not for every long though lol).


Posted by Yan on Dec-03-2006 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
everyone accepts that they are going to die (at some point).


Thanks to meds nowadays.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-03-2006 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
If someone was truly afraid of death, they wouldn't do things such as skydive, or bungee jump. I want to do both of those things.


But only because there is a relative amount of safety to them.


Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-03-2006 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
But only because there is a relative amount of safety to them.


There is always a chance that you're parachute won't open, and the band will snap.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-03-2006 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
There is always a chance that you're parachute won't open, and the band will snap.


There's a better chance that you will die in a car accident. Just because you drive your car does not mean you aren't afraid to die. Like I said before, we convince ourselves of these things and live in oblivion as a feature of mortal sentience - maybe it's evolutionary that we are aware of our own deaths but choose to ignore it most of the time.

Put a gun in 9/10 people's mouths and they will be afraid. The rest are either stupid or visibly insane.


Posted by Sunsnail on Dec-03-2006 21:23:

Maybe you convinced yourself that you are afraid to die?


Posted by Simon on Dec-03-2006 21:25:

I try to put the thought of death to the back of my mind, but whenever I get thinking about it it scares the shit out of me.


Posted by basd on Dec-03-2006 22:32:

I don't know. Never thought about it, I've got better things to do.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Dec-03-2006 22:44:

quote:
Originally posted by LiveTheDream
No, but the way i want to die, is at the age of 95, dew to having an hartattack after resiving the god damn best blowjob ever, by a blone 20 year old wile flying a plane.


Watch Red Dwarf by anychance?


Posted by ZeJayMan on Dec-03-2006 23:15:

I'm not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens.


Posted by astroboy on Dec-03-2006 23:28:

If there's an afterlife, then death is of no significance. If there isn't an afterlife then you won't be around to regret dying... so it's of no significance either. Spending your limited time here worrying about death is hence irrational.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-03-2006 23:34:

I've stared death in the face more times than I can care to remember. It always backs down first. I am a fucking rock.


Posted by neovalkyr on Dec-03-2006 23:34:

Why do people cry when someone dies? because deep down they know they'll never see them again. If Aliens exist will we try to convert them to christianity?


Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-03-2006 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I've stared death in the face more times than I can care to remember. It always backs down first. I am a fucking rock.



Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-03-2006 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
Maybe you convinced yourself that you are afraid to die?


It is not something that needs convincing. If you are born without an innate fear of death, you are not a human being, mortal in this state.

One of man's greatest fears is the unknown - when faced with such things he reverts to his most basic, animal state. There are some things, however, that are even worse than the unknown - like knowing what it is that lurks there. If you say you're not afraid of death, it's only because you've never actually seen it before and can only speculate with uncertainty on what lies beyond it.

Maybe it could be argued that humanity has an innate predisposition towards religious dogma, so it is possible for us to truly overcome the fear of death by belief in a benign afterlife? Yeah, because religious people aren't afraid of anything.

Maybe it could be argued that placid acceptance of one's own death is something that everybody comes to terms with at some point and that, as rational beings, we are able to overcome this fear of the unknown because fear is an irrational thing. Because human beings are really, really rational creatures. Yep, that's us. Rational as can be.

Let me try and clarify things though - "afraid to die" and "never falling asleep again because I'm petrified by the fear of death" are 2 very different things.

We are comfortable in our illusion of safety, some of us comfortable enough to taunt what it is that this illusion guards us from?


Posted by DrunkenMaster16 on Dec-03-2006 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
It's about time somebody gave an honest fucking answer.


I've come close about 3 times now, closest was a coma for 5 days. Honestly death is inevitable. Accept your fate and live YOUR life, the way you think is right or atleast try to. When the day comes imagine it as your first birthday the 1st day you breathe air on your own thru your own means.


Posted by D-res on Dec-04-2006 03:04:

Philosophically the idea of death to me is mystifying and almost scary, but at the same time I accept its finality.


Posted by lamp on Dec-04-2006 03:24:

whell im in the bonus round of life right now so im just happy with what i have. im not really affraid, atleast i dont think i am. i dont know it depends on so many things how why when where i die. who knows i dont do anything dangerous but i do do alot that will affect me later in life. hum good question.


Posted by ZeJayMan on Dec-04-2006 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by lamp
whell im in the bonus round of life right now



lol


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