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Originally posted by dvd waht do you mean counter weight?

That little weight that's at the end of your tonearm

Anti Skate is that little dial at the base of your tone arm

About anti-skate and counter-weight:
No matter how I play with these two knobs, I don't see any effects on any of my records.
The vinyl that wobbled, still wobbles.
The vinyl that didn't, doesn't.

yeah i know where the antiskate is, thanks. Yeah i agree it has no affect on the wobble thing. is it my cheap cartridge? i hav eno idea what brand..it looks like the stanton al500 but its white. hehe.

Well I used split cue only several times and thats because I wanted to broadcast to my friend through Winamp and it was late and i couldnt crank up the volium so I used the Split Cue.
Mainly what I do is get the 2 tracks matched,
then I start to mix, and lower the EQ in my phones, I raise the volium of the incoming track and mix with the EQ through the headphones.
And I just cant seem to match the two tracks with only one track in my headphones, maybe its because my speakers are shitty.

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Originally posted by Eugene hehe, guys, I agree with you about the BPM counter, and i'm not using it anymore. The ONLY thing I'm using is the green/red/yellow lights that show if the beats match.

you'd better not use those lights either. cover them up with something. only use your ears not your eyes!
you'll learn how to beatmatch much faster when NOT using those lights. trust me.
it's the same with the bpm-counter. dont get dependant of those things!! most clubs wont have a bpm counter nor will they have those lights.
Better stick with the basics: only use your ears.

You really must heed the advice of the other TA�s who say to learn to mix using one ear. If you�re in a club situation where they have a split or fader cue then you�ll be fine but if you come to one that hasn�t your buggered. However, if your fairly competent at monitoring using one method it shouldn�t take you too long to pick up others. You�re in the best position if you can mix using all three types of monitoring. Remember, practice makes perfect.

split cue... do you mean the PFL on the vestax that let's you hear whats playing out -- aka both channels based on volume/gain and not the actual pre-fader listen? on the pmc-17/pcv-175 it's right under the master gain. i haven't looked at every mixer but if that's what you're talking about, you're telling me not all mixers have those?

Correct

But you still can listen to both CHs in ur headphones...

Just an update on my DJ'ing:
Things are getting a little better now, I've re-arranged some of the tracks and can now get better-sounding transitions.

Still, many of the transitions sound rough when I listen to them AFTERWARDS (when you're mixing, everything seems so perfect in your headphone-ear, then when you expose BOTH ears to what's actually coming out, you realize how much you suck!! )

P.S. Maybe in one-two weeks I will post my first mix (in MP3, direct download).

Another thing... choose your tracks wisely. Some tracks just don't fit well together, while otheers ...

dang i'm gonna have a hell of a trouble when making a set. most of my stuff is like i dont know weird.

for an angel, 10 in 1, blood is pumpin , eternity.... oh well

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Originally posted by Spin Doctor You really must heed the advice of the other TA�s who say to learn to mix using one ear. If you�re in a club situation where they have a split or fader cue then you�ll be fine but if you come to one that hasn�t your buggered. However, if your fairly competent at monitoring using one method it shouldn�t take you too long to pick up others. You�re in the best position if you can mix using all three types of monitoring. Remember, practice makes perfect.

Tell me what reasonable club doesnt have a good mixer with a double cue?
I Think every club which respects itself should have one.
And anyway Im going to try and get it, but Its hard because my speakers are shitty and the bass is not so good so I cant really seperate the beats.
And If I will encounter a club which doesnt have the Cue option well then Ill just carry my gear with me and use it...

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Originally posted by Eugene hehe, guys, I agree with you about the BPM counter, and i'm not using it anymore. The ONLY thing I'm using is the green/red/yellow lights that show if the beats match.

don't use that shit either.....use your ear, fuck the lights and BPM, don't be so dependent on that shit and excercise your ear

those lights are not always correct too.....the basic concept is for them to light up when a a drum hits (low frequency basically)....but if your bassline is as strong as the drum then that shit isn't lighting up correctly so fuck it and use ears.....

there is nothing wrong with using split cue...its there for a reason..and its not cheating, u still have to beat match them on your own.

Ok I have a question for you guys (especially the ones that say they dont have a set eq pattern).

Now before you actually start to mess with the eqs, do you have a plan on what you are going to do? For example...its understood that each song is going to be somewhat different, so do you know or have a plan on how you are going to mess with the eqs even before you bring the song in...or...do you bring the song in and work from there, taking out what you think needs taking out and putting in what you think it sounds like it needs to go in.

Well after typing this Ive realized most peoples answers are going to be the same...How I do it, is I have a basic idea before going in, by listening to the song in my headphones, but a lot of it is improvising while both records are playing.

Im interested in seeing if anyone has it all layed out before they start to mix in the new song (just by listening in your headphones).

when i get my pcv - 275
i will only use it 4 volume matching
which means i will just use it 2 see both tracks are on da same volume.., so my mix wont b fucked


is that cheating?

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Originally posted by Scorchio Tell me what reasonable club doesnt have a good mixer with a double cue? I Think every club which respects itself should have one. And anyway Im going to try and get it, but Its hard because my speakers are shitty and the bass is not so good so I cant really seperate the beats.

With the greatest of respect mate the clubs that your going to spin in first won�t have the top of the range equipment. There going to have equipment that has been beaten up through over and miss-use and isn�t top of the range. Trust me, I know from experience. A few months ago I was in a DJ Battle Competition in my local town. Did the mixer have split cue? Hell No! Did the last place I DJ'ed in have a Split Cue? No it didn't!

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Originally posted by Scorchio And If I will encounter a club which doesnt have the Cue option well then Ill just carry my gear with me and use it...

And as for this I don�t know what it�s like in your country but you really couldn�t get away with uprooting their system to plonk in your mixer over here in the UK. The Club manager would blow a fuse.

Yup, you can't bring your own shit to a club here, in US also.

Hmmm well due to these facts I'm going to try and practice more on it.

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Originally posted by DJ Teknique those lights are not always correct too.....the basic concept is for them to light up when a a drum hits (low frequency basically)....but if your bassline is as strong as the drum then that shit isn't lighting up correctly so fuck it and use ears.....

you're right!
Sometimes when I'm mixing, the beats are matched but the lights are still red for a few secs... that messes me up

About EQ'ing with your headphones, is it just me or does playing with EQ's have absolutely no effect on what's heard in your headphones? Or am I wrong, I just can't hear it?

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About EQ'ing with your headphones, is it just me or does playing with EQ's have absolutely no effect on what's heard in your headphones? Or am I wrong, I just can't hear it?

this is because when you just use the channel PFL you don't hear the output, which has gone through the eq's, you are hearing whats going into the mixer from the record, it's the same if you have a digital effects processor in it, you won't hear the effects in your headphones without a split cue.
As far as being fucked without the split cue goes, Scorchio, i don't think it'll be THAT big of a problem, the beats will be matched whether you just use the channel pfl's, or the split cue, you will have to take off the headphones to hear the actual mix though when you fade or whatever. you said your speakers suck, and i don't know if you've ever played on a big system, but the real problem i've had to deal with when mixing in the phones is the speakers playing out won't be perfectly sync'd with your headphones, and that takes some getting used to. about the pcv 275, i haven't seen it yet and i'm about to upgrade from a pmc 17a, what all makes it better than the 175?

well im no expert...

Ive being an amateur a.k.a Bedroom Banger...

but what i tend to do is try to memorize the songs...

and also this helps because the way i mix is by remembering sequences.. like when there are lows in a song, and also like hi hats and claps and build up's, this helps me mix because i know what something is going to sound like when ie MIXED together...

Work at it.. and practice.. im still doing it...

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Originally posted by djsblaha what all makes it better than the 175?

Well, for a start it has a much better sound quality, you have the option of a split cue,
It has more inputs and they are plated with gold.
There is an additional Cue meter that allows you to match the volium of the track in your cue to the track playing outside for a smoother mix.
You can hear the EQ changes in your headphones in oppose to the PCV-175 which doesnt support that.

All and all Id say its worth a buy
I had the PCV-175 and I regreted for buying it and I upgraded to a PCV-275 and I am fully satisifed.

I'll say it time and time again

"4"


lots of great tips in this thread.......i only got to read the first page...and i would just like to give props to Scorchio for being able to put into words what I thought wasnt possible

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