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Coulda fooled me, now go and play somewhere else, troglodite!

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Originally posted by jahnlay Yea, feel better now? Then don't bother answering the thread, dickwad!

I feel great, what the fuck are you going to do about it?

Nothing, now piss off.

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Originally posted by Zild Well you got that one wrong, but if you stay in the DJ Booth and Production forum you'll be OK. Outside of that the IQ falls off considerably

I would say that the "political Discussion/Debate" Forum is in most of the times good as well. To bad that there is no "philosophy" forum in TA...(although maybe no-one would go there)

Yea, I see what you're saying, Petran. How about your examples? I have to say, with the nu skool prog producers from Greece like V-Sag, Kosmas Epsilon and Andrew K, they really have their finger on the button. Best new music I've heard.

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Originally posted by jahnlay Yea, I see what you're saying, Petran. How about your examples? I have to say, with the nu skool prog producers from Greece like V-Sag, Kosmas Epsilon and Andrew K, they really have their finger on the button. Best new music I've heard.

Fuck yea! I love those guys.

Yea, that's because you have good taste and intellect Zild, he ,he! They rock, really great melodies.

Ok, i'll go for it but your first post fits my categories very well....bu ti'll do it for my favorite ones


70s Kraut-Rock: Can, Neu!, Faust, Krafwerk, Cluster, Harmonia 76, Amon Duul ii, Popol Vuh, Tangerine Dream

70s space music/ambient: Vangelis, Jean Michel Jarre, Klaus Schulze, Brian Eno


80s Synth-Pop/New-Wave: Ultravox, A Flock of Seagulls, OMD, Simple Minds, Propaganda, Soft Cell, Talk Talk, Human League, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, New Order, Visage, Clan of Xymox, Alphaville,Japan, Yello


Shoegazer/Dream-pop: My Bloody Valentine, Slowdive, Lush, Ride, Bethany Curve, The Autumns,Red House Painters, Throwing Muses, Cocteau Twins

House: i'm bored to do house...



Techno (original detroit and detroit-influenced. Known as "deep-techno" and "Machine-Soul" as well): Derrick May, Juan Atkins-Model 500, kevin Saunderson-E Dancer, Drexciya,Carl Craig, Kenny Larkin, Eddie "Flashin" Fowlkes, The Black Dog (gone a bit IDM-y at some points), Slam, Funk D'Void,John Beltran (and not Joey Beltram!Joey is just ok,John is excellent!), Agoria, Steve Rachmad, Technasia, Rolando,Alex Smoke,Steve Bug, The Youngsters many more...


Minimal Techno: Basic Channel, Fluxion, Maurizio, John Tejada, Aril Brikha, Luomo, Monolake, Ricardo Vilallobos, Vainqueur,Rhythm & Sound, David Alvarado...


Classic Trance: Cosmic Baby, Resistance-D,Pete Namlook (4Voice!), Evolution, Oliver Lieb-Spicelab,Sven Vath,Dance 2 Trance, Jam & Spoon, Microbots, Bioship C, Spacecube, Cygnus-X...

IDM/Experimental Electronica: Aphex Twin, Authechre, Boards of Canada, Global Communications, Biosphere, m-ziq, FSOL,Bola, Telefon Tel Aviv.


I had mor ein my mind but i was bored...that's extensive i think!

Oh yeaaa the new progressive scene from greece yeah lol, i forgot about that!...heh well you know the usual suspects... Kosmas Epsilon, B.I.G, Dousk, Nikola Gala, Christo Cambas...heh

yeah i mean no one needs to jump all over each other and get all elite. people's opinions are their opinions.

good and bad music ?

two genres.

Yea, thanks Petran, now I see a bit of how you percieve genres. If people took some time out to check this out they might realise that a thread like this could open up people's perception of genres and show them what they have in common!

Yea this thread is not bad at all. I don't know why you got negative responses. Most of the threads in music discussion right now are musch worse in comparison to this one.It's true though, people in here get very preachy about genres and they were massive flame-wars in the past about the current subject-matter. Sad, cause in the end, genres, like many complex categories are very ill-defined and subjective.

Ugggh, another thread whose only intent is to pigeonhole artists into meaningless genres?

Congrats - This thread is slightly more ridiculous than this one.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Ok, i'll go for it but your first post fits my categories very well....bu ti'll do it for my favorite ones 70s space music/ambient: Vangelis, Jean Michel Jarre, Klaus Schulze, Brian Eno I had mor ein my mind but i was bored...that's extensive i think!

Wouldn't call that Space music more Synthesiser Classics but that is only my opinion dude.

Well this thread was an amazing success.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Well this thread was an amazing success.

MM you always manage to make me laugh dude...hoping to have a look at your set available on the TA' download and see if you are still any good

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Originally posted by Xtatica hoping to have a look at your set available on the TA' download and see if you are still any good

Of course I am, I'm like a fine wine...

I get you drunk.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Yea this thread is not bad at all. I don't know why you got negative responses. Most of the threads in music discussion right now are musch worse in comparison to this one.It's true though, people in here get very preachy about genres and they were massive flame-wars in the past about the current subject-matter. Sad, cause in the end, genres, like many complex categories are very ill-defined and subjective.

Considering he is responisble for most of them, it seems pretty obvious...

Re: What's your perception of genre?

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Originally posted by jahnlay What's TA's perceptions of genre? Give examples of what you think for each genre (add more genres if you like) of artists and labels. 1) Deep House: Dennis Ferrer, Kerry Chandler, Masters At Work, Larry Heard, Charles Webster, King Street Records 2) Disco: Bee-Gees, Gloria Gaynor, Donna Summer, Georgio Moroder, Scissor Sisters, Daft Punk, Cassius. 3) Electro: Kraftwerk, Ectomorph, MANDY, Tiga 4) techno: DJ Preach, Derrick May, Jeff Mills, Richie Hawtin, Sven Vaeth, Speedy J, Chris Liebing, Chris Liberator, Dave The Drummer, Thomas Schumacher, Gabriel Ananda, Adam Beyer, Minus, B-Pitch Control 5) New wave: Yazoo, Human League, Flock Of Seagullls, Midge Ure 6) House: Roger Sanchez, Eric Morillo, DJ Heather, Louis Vega, David Morales, Om Records 7)Trip Hop: Portishead, Massive Attack, Thievery Corporation 9) Breaks: Meat Katie, Elite Force, Dylan Coombs, Plump DJ's, Finger Lickin' Records 10) Progressive House: John Digweed, Sasha, Trick and Kubic, 16 bit Lolitas,

You know why I posted this:

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I try to pay as little attention to genre classifications as possible...

Because when I read your post and saw each artist/label listed under a different genre, I immediatly started to think of Daft Punk that ISNT disco, Kerri Chandler that isn't deep house, Meat Katie that isn't breaks and Sasha sets that go from minimal to tech house to techno to prog in the space of 2 hours.

Not to mention that minimal is not in your list of genres, as you seem to have lumped it in with techno.

Do not pay attention to genres.

Well, Clovis, guys, from what i've understood this guy is not interested in discovering the absolute genre classifications. He is interested in just seeing what people's perceptions of genres are. I view it more like a research concept rather then a flaming discussion on what fits a specific genre. In a matter of fact i would have found it interesting to see how people categorise and stuff. It could lead to common themes and various ideas such as when the concept of "genre" breaks-down.(for example like Sasha). It would be really interesting, but unfortunately it seems that the MD probably doesn't have the maturity for this thread.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Well, Clovis, guys, from what i've understood this guy is not interested in discovering the absolute genre classifications. He is interested in just seeing what people's perceptions of genres are. I view it more like a research concept rather then a flaming discussion on what fits a specific genre. In a matter of fact i would have found it interesting to see how people categorise and stuff. It could lead to common themes and various ideas such as when the concept of "genre" breaks-down.(for example like Sasha). It would be really interesting, but unfortunately it seems that the MD probably doesn't have the maturity for this thread.

Well I would have been happy to engage in more in-depth discussion if the thread wasn't marred from the beggining by slaging and name calling bullshit.

How can I answer what my perceptions of a genre are if I dont really have any perceptions to begin with? I try to keep those perceptions to a minimum since, like I pointed out above, they lead to too much categorization and pigeonholing of artists. G

Clovis, get real, the only time I responded negatively was when people couldn't be bothered to even try and engage the thread, or not read it and say things they think are cool, like "I don't like to pigeonhole things" or some or other rubbish. This thread was an attempt to see how people perceived different artists in genre. It's not about right or wrong, bad or good, just purely how you see the bigger picture for each artist.

If people can't be big enough to realise this or take a bit of time to show how they would organise the various categories, then don't bother posting other stupid things. It's a simple question of asking you for examples on what you think of genres and how different artists fit into them in the bigger picture.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Ok, i'll go for it but your first post fits my categories very well....bu ti'll do it for my favorite ones 70s space music/ambient: Vangelis, Jean Michel Jarre, Klaus Schulze, Brian Eno I had morein my mind but i was bored...that's extensive i think! Wouldn't call that Space music more Synthesiser Classics but that is only my opinion dude.

To be honest Xtatica, nobody asked for your opinion or discussion on his opinion, merely for your own examples or opinions, thanks.

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Ugggh, another thread whose only intent is to pigeonhole artists into meaningless genres? Congrats - This thread is slightly more ridiculous than this one.

And I kind of expected something more intelligent from you, RJT???

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Originally posted by jahnlay Clovis, get real, the only time I responded negatively was when people couldn't be bothered to even try and engage the thread, or not read it and say things they think are cool, like "I don't like to pigeonhole things" or some or other rubbish. This thread was an attempt to see how people perceived different artists in genre. It's not about right or wrong, bad or good, just purely how you see the bigger picture for each artist. If people can't be big enough to realise this or take a bit of time to show how they would organise the various categories, then don't bother posting other stupid things. It's a simple question of asking you for examples on what you think of genres and how different artists fit into them in the bigger picture. To be honest Xtatica, nobody asked for your opinion or discussion on his opinion, merely for your own examples or opinions, thanks. And I kind of expected something more intelligent from you, RJT???

When I make a thread asking for opinions on something, I don't call someone a shithead just because they did not reply within my narrowly defined view of "acceptable" replies. I dont care that you think I'm saying I dont like genres because I think its "cool". I say it because thats what I believe, I try not to categorize artists in genres, and thats my way of thinking about it. People will have different opinions, people will disagree with the premise of your post and of course some will be happy to engage in discussion. But if you are going to act like an immature tard about the whole thing then dont expect people to pay you any heed.

genres is a good way of describing music.

mix and match how you'd like to get your point across.

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