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Posted by thesuperfunk on Dec-07-2006 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jesusisgod


His sets sound like 1 long track.


I really don't see how that is a good thing?


Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-07-2006 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by medinaM5

08. Bedrock - Heaven Scent (Sasha's Special NYE Mix)




that is actually Heaven Scent (John Johnson remix)
why in the world did people call it Sasha remix anyway?


Posted by jahnlay on Dec-07-2006 21:17:

I really like his stuff, both now and before.


Posted by medinaM5 on Dec-07-2006 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
that is actually Heaven Scent (John Johnson remix)
why in the world did people call it Sasha remix anyway?


lol, no clue


Posted by asfdz on Dec-07-2006 21:21:

Re: Sasha is amazing

quote:
Originally posted by jesusisgod
I never really liked Sasha up until recently. THis year, I have listened to many of his sets, and I am just blown away by some of the tracks he plays. They are so original and sound so amazing.



I have been having a hard time seeing how a track selection can make a dj "amazing". He found tracks that were already made, then played them....and you as the listener happens to like them and/or simply have the same taste in music. Wow.

But I totally agree with the last part of what you said; his mixing. Now THAT is how I can see a DJ to be considered "amazing".


Posted by jesusisgod on Dec-07-2006 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
I really don't see how that is a good thing?


why


Posted by Clovis on Dec-07-2006 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
I really don't see how that is a good thing?



But it isnt one long track. Its one long track that goes many many different places. The point is, he is good at keeping a consistent theme or atmosphere going throughout most of his set, while going on a trip through different sounds at the same time.


Some of his sets do get samey and boring...but like every dj he does have his off nights...



And medina, its not that amazing....when he has an outro peice of a track that is in compatible key, he can often leave it going in the background for a long, long time. I've seen him leave slight highs from an outgoing track in for 3 more tracks live, so you see many channels of audio going at once even though only one will be predominant.


Posted by jahnlay on Dec-07-2006 21:24:

Track selection > mixing skills


Posted by medinaM5 on Dec-07-2006 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
And medina, its not that amazing....when he has an outro peice of a track that is in compatible key, he can often leave it going in the background for a long, long time. I've seen him leave slight highs from an outgoing track in for 3 more tracks live, so you see many channels of audio going at once even though only one will be predominant.


funky summa on one of your sets


Posted by Clovis on Dec-07-2006 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by jahnlay
Track selection > mixing skills



I've said this many times before...I totally agree with you, but I like the DJ to have both, or at least put serious effort into the mixing

Plus, some tracks can be made to sound far better just by the way they are mixed and what you choose to put next to them (which is trackselection pretty much)


Posted by Clovis on Dec-07-2006 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by medinaM5
funky summa on one of your sets



hehe, went a little over-board on that one...


Posted by Zild on Dec-07-2006 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by jahnlay
Track selection > mixing skills


Always. I know some don't understand but most do.


Posted by medinaM5 on Dec-07-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
hehe, went a little over-board on that one...


i enjoyed it


Posted by bas on Dec-07-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
I really don't see how that is a good thing?

I've heard this complaint from a few guys that run the record shop I go to. They're not a fan of his style of mixing because it's "too good". There's no "energy" in it. Personally I can't see the difference. I'd rather seamless mixing and one long ride rather than individual tracks. Hard to explain lol, but when I think of how Sasha mixes vs. how let's say...Masiello mixes, they're totally different. Masiello lets one track ride out a bit before bringing in the next so you can really tell when it's a new track. Sasha, however, let's it come in smoothly so that while one track is playing the next sneaks in. He'll sample some element of the song playing out so that it sounds like it's still playing, hence one seamless mix. What's wrong with that?


Posted by Zild on Dec-07-2006 21:30:

They're just jealous because he's good. But Desyn is awesome too he has an incredible ear for music.


Posted by asfdz on Dec-07-2006 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Always. I know some don't understand but most do.


I saw how this could be true when I saw Felix. His track selection was great, but perhaps he was too drunk, he couldn't mix for shit. The club was still rocking though (of course)

I'm stating that I don't think track selection makes a DJ "AMAZING". ONLY if the tracks he selected were his own productions.


Posted by medinaM5 on Dec-07-2006 21:31:

desyn is the man


Posted by bas on Dec-07-2006 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by jahnlay
Track selection > mixing skills

Along with track selection is programming. Anyone can learn to beatmatch, it's not that hard. But finding tracks that fit well together and taking the crowd/listener where YOU want them to go is something way more difficult. I can buy all the tracks on Digweed's Transitions and mix them in the same order. But are they going ot have the same feel? Hell no, Digweed's programming is amazing.


Posted by medinaM5 on Dec-07-2006 21:32:

btw, i need a track ID'd badly from one of desyn's sets...anyone a desyn whore?


Posted by bas on Dec-07-2006 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
They're just jealous because he's good. But Desyn is awesome too he has an incredible ear for music.

Oh absolutely, I'm not saying that Desyn is no good. He's one of my faves, absolute fantastic dj and an incredible tracklist. I was just stating a difference in their style of mixing


Posted by Zild on Dec-07-2006 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Azia
I saw how this could be true when I saw Felix. His track selection was great, but perhaps he was too drunk, he couldn't mix for shit. The club was still rocking though (of course)

I'm stating that I don't think track selection makes a DJ "AMAZING". ONLY if the tracks he selected were his own productions.


It's OK like I said not everyone understands.


Posted by jahnlay on Dec-07-2006 21:35:

I agree, Sasha's mixing is seamless, and I like it that way, only bits I didn't like last year in his essential mix was when he spead up or slowed down the tempo drastically, using the re-pitch algorithm. I can't stand that, it really gives me the heebie-geebies. Sounds the same as speeding a track up drastically on a turntable, doesn't work. Better to drop mix it at a higher tempo or gradually increase or decrease.


Posted by jahnlay on Dec-07-2006 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Along with track selection is programming. Anyone can learn to beatmatch, it's not that hard. But finding tracks that fit well together and taking the crowd/listener where YOU want them to go is something way more difficult. I can buy all the tracks on Digweed's Transitions and mix them in the same order. But are they going ot have the same feel? Hell no, Digweed's programming is amazing.


Agreed 100%


Posted by Zild on Dec-07-2006 21:37:

A lot of times you can program a set so that people will rock out to music they wouldn't normally enjoy. That's called track selection.


Posted by Clovis on Dec-07-2006 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by jahnlay
I agree, Sasha's mixing is seamless, and I like it that way, only bits I didn't like last year in his essential mix was when he spead up or slowed down the tempo drastically, using the re-pitch algorithm. I can't stand that, it really gives me the heebie-geebies. Sounds the same as speeding a track up drastically on a turntable, doesn't work. Better to drop mix it at a higher tempo or gradually increase or decrease.



Technically and mixing wise I think that has been his best ableton effort so far....alot of interesting sampling and looping going on there. I'm sure alot was prepared before hand, but to put that all together for a live 2hr mix, it was really well done.


I liked the speeding up part in the beggining cause the Detroit Escalator track is very slow, when he sped it up while bringing in that breaks loop it sounded cool...but that slow down towards the end of the set is anoying...


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