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Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-08-2006 01:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
I think it's a very, very important date in history

Why is this one so much more significant than any other though?

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History is so important to know. Why things are the way they are today, how it got to this point, what it took to get here, and everything in between.

I agree.

Questioning it, however, is the only way that you will ever change the course of events.

Posted by Frenchie on Dec-08-2006 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Why is this one so much more significant than any other though?

I'm not saying that it's more important but it is , however, still important to know.

Posted by Faj27 on Dec-08-2006 01:58:

Great thread clovis, thank you for setting a good example here. I respect all those who sacrificed their lives for this great country so we can have the freedom to say, do or think the way we do.

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-08-2006 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
I'm not saying that it's more important but it is , however, still important to know.

Do you think that things would have been significantly different had the event been on...December 2nd, 1941?

Posted by medinaM5 on Dec-08-2006 01:59:

just got back from hawaii recently and had a chance to stop off at the pearl harbor memorial...pretty eery shit

Posted by Frenchie on Dec-08-2006 02:02:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Do you think that things would have been significantly different had the event been on...December 2nd, 1941?

Now you're just being stupid, that's ok.

Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Dec-08-2006 02:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Faj27
Great thread clovis, thank you for setting a good example here. I respect all those who sacrificed their lives for this great country so we can have the freedom to say, do or think the way we do.

US PATRIOT Act

Posted by mdamon7278 on Dec-08-2006 02:20:

Interesting movie about what if this happened..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown

Posted by Psy-T on Dec-08-2006 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Do you think that things would have been significantly different had the event been on...December 2nd, 1941?

doubtlessly, and there's no need for a 5 days time difference for the significant change, a nanosecond of difference would do just as well.

Posted by Psy-T on Dec-08-2006 02:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Now you're just being stupid, that's ok.

irony lol.

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-08-2006 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Now you're just being stupid, that's ok.

I am so glad you approve. Ecstatic, really.

I am, however, very displeased that you've not really addressed any of my questions directed at you.

All of us are making history right now - the history of the future. Whether you are aware of it or not, things you do every day of your life will affect the outcome of world events in some part, in some way - maybe this gives significance to what we do, maybe it detracts from our accomplishments - it's all a matter of perspective. Dwelling on the past and seeing events as major catalysts in and of only themselves is narrow-minded though and serves only to recount the dead, not truly bring any lifeline back into history or commemorate its course. Who knows what mysteries this world has seen that will be forever lost in time due to people forgetting because they allow the seemingly "larger" events to shadow them?

In any case, I am sorry that your viewpoint is not lent any credibility by the fact that you studied it in a book or saw the movie starring superstar actor Ben Affleck. I would recommend hanging out at the VFW as often as you can, given your obvious dedication towards historical preservation, but I am afraid your will is too lacking as well as the population of people who actually do recall the event with enthusiastic remembrance. It was a sad day a long time ago - but isn't every day sad in its own little way?

Posted by Clovis on Dec-08-2006 02:49:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Good point.

And I am not necessarily excusing people's ignorance - it's just that some view the event as significant and worth remembering whereas others see it as an inexorable part of the past and just a single part of greater events. It's all a matter of perspective.

I understand, and you could argue that the more important decision was made when the Japansese decided to send their fleet towards Hawaii. But this is the day it happened, and it is important not so much as what it is, the date, or even the events itself, but more of how big a puzzle piece it was to the world today.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-08-2006 03:00:

i forgot

Posted by Events@Spec on Dec-08-2006 05:13:

Good movie. Specially the dogfights.

Rememberence goes out.

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-08-2006 05:15:

lol

Posted by jonSun on Dec-08-2006 05:20:

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Originally posted by DjConfessions
Tom Hanks and Matt Damon sure showed them

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-08-2006 07:50:

In remembrance...

Posted by Trazedict on Dec-08-2006 07:56:

heh. me thawts it was on December 8. DOI!

Posted by stren on Dec-08-2006 10:57:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
as horrible as it is, its better for everyone that this day occured.

yes. Weird thing is that here, nobody seems to care so much. Although it was a turning point in world history, only americans seem to care. sad

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
"September 11th, 2001"

fixed

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Dec-08-2006 11:13:

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Originally posted by stren
fixed

oops

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-08-2006 11:51:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
yes. Weird thing is that here, nobody seems to care so much. Although it was a turning point in world history, only americans seem to care. sad

I think it's more sad people dwell on the past, remembering stuff that happened decades ago, even though tragedies happen every single day all over the world and nobody even knows about them.

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-08-2006 12:56:

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I think it's more sad people dwell on the past, remembering stuff that happened decades ago, even though tragedies happen every single day all over the world and nobody even knows about them.

Yes, seriously - I find it hard to give a fuck about this when there is so much shit going on in the world.

In fact, I bet if the money spent on remembering Pearl Harbour was used in a move effective manner, like feeding starving kids, everyone would be much better off.

Posted by stren on Dec-08-2006 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I think it's more sad people dwell on the past, remembering stuff that happened decades ago, even though tragedies happen every single day all over the world and nobody even knows about them.

dwelling on the past is not the same as remembrance. Maybe those tragedies wouldn't happen if people learnt their lessons from history.

Posted by DJ Double Threat on Dec-08-2006 17:02:

Here are some other pictures

http://www.ussessexcv9.org/images/P...rbor%20(10).jpg
http://www.ussessexcv9.org/images/P...arbor%20(7).jpg
http://www.ussessexcv9.org/images/P...rbor%20(12).jpg
http://www.ussessexcv9.org/images/P...rbor%20(13).jpg
http://www.ussessexcv9.org/images/P...rbor%20(17).jpg

Rich