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Posted by idoru on Dec-12-2006 22:35:

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Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there — on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.


Excellent piece of text.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Dec-12-2006 22:39:

this makes me wonder





IGK HUMOUR!


Posted by RickyM on Dec-12-2006 22:46:

Here's a fact about space/the sun.

If you had a pin-head sized area that was the same temperature as the very center of the Sun, it would set fire to everything within 60 miles.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Dec-12-2006 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Here's a fact about space/the sun.

If you had a pin-head sized area that was the same temperature as the very center of the Sun, it would set fire to everything within 60 miles.


so if u were 61 miles away ud be alright?


Posted by Omega_M on Dec-12-2006 22:59:

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy
so if u were 61 miles away ud be alright?


You'd freeze to death.


Posted by RickyM on Dec-12-2006 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
so if u were 61 miles away ud be alright?


I doubt it kid, just because it isn't setting fire to things, it would still be quite hot. You would probably start to melt a little.


Posted by dallastar on Dec-12-2006 23:04:

that's kewl - good find Omega!


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-12-2006 23:16:

Good thread. Does anyone have a link to that high res picture of the Sun from a fair distance - with the space shuttle silhouette in front of it? The picture that looks like it might be a shot of Nou's head from above. Would like to see that again.


Posted by Clovis on Dec-12-2006 23:21:

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
The picture that looks like it might be a shot of Nou's head from above. Would like to see that again.




Looking at that pic, you wonder why any of us give a fuck about anything.

Like ants, in an ant farm, on top of a desk, in one room of a huge mansion in a huge city where no one else lives.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-12-2006 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Here's a fact about space/the sun.

If you had a pin-head sized area that was the same temperature as the very center of the Sun, it would set fire to everything within 60 miles.


id like a source for that coz i think thats about as likely as north-south getting finished in the next century.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-12-2006 23:26:

I've found it if anyone's interested:


quote:
Originally posted by occrider
This is the silouhette of the space station and shuttle against the backdrop of the sun which is 87 million miles away. The space station is doing a visual check of the shuttle. Not safe for dialup.

http://www.astrosurf.com/legault/iss_shuttle.jpg

Edit: Fyi space station is 220 miles away.


Posted by Omega_M on Dec-12-2006 23:29:

I dunno if you are talking about this one. In the background is the sun, and the space shuttle Atlantis is seen approaching the international space station. They call such events, transits. Mercury transits are fairly common. This pic is just awesone I've never seen anything like this before.



Edit: I didn't see your earlier post.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-12-2006 23:33:

Cheers - I've already found it though. Check my link instead, it's a better pic!


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Dec-12-2006 23:37:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
The c0r is the centre of the universe though...

And space-time is flat!

C'mon, you are supposed to know these things!


I believe this to be true. This thread is propaganda. That is not "earth" in the picture; that is the CORe. The holocaust never happened, my coffee needs a refill and the CORe. is the centre of the universe. Even though Floorfiller quit on us, he'll forever be metrosexual.


Posted by Omega_M on Dec-12-2006 23:47:

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Originally posted by occrider
This is the silouhette of the space station and shuttle against the backdrop of the sun which is 87 million miles away. The space station is doing a visual check of the shuttle...


Doesn't look like the space station is doing a visual check of the shuttle.
The tail of the space shuttle appears to point towards the ISS.
The underside with the heat shield tiles is actually on the opposite side.
Looks more like the shuttle's going to dock with the ISS.


Posted by Events@Spec on Dec-12-2006 23:47:

Maybe that's just a dead pixel. I get a lot of those in my D50.

Where r teh other planets?


Posted by Omega_M on Dec-12-2006 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Events@Spec
Maybe that's just a dead pixel. I get a lot of those in my D50.

Where r teh other planets?


There they are!


Posted by RickyM on Dec-13-2006 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
id like a source for that coz i think thats about as likely as north-south getting finished in the next century.


Think about it though...if we can feel the heat of the sun from fuck knows how many million miles away, then think how hot the center must be!

And as for N&S I dono!


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Dec-13-2006 00:13:

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Originally posted by RickyM
Think about it though...if we can feel the heat of the sun from fuck knows how many million miles away, then think how hot the center must be!


If my astronomy from my childhood serves me right, the surface temperature is anything form 6,500 C and upward and the Sun's core (not the Chillout Room!!) is 15 million C and up...

I've always been intereted in Astronomy since I was about six. I find it fascinating and just so interesting.


Posted by Omega_M on Dec-13-2006 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Think about it though...if we can feel the heat of the sun from fuck knows how many million miles away, then think how hot the center must be!

And as for N&S I dono!


*Waits for pkcRAISTLIN to pounce on teh prey*


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Dec-13-2006 00:34:

What intrigues me about the size of the Universe is that life and other things could be going on that we know nothing about, e.g. Star Wars taking place somewhere else or something!!

Other random facts: We are about 500 light seconds from the sun, and 1.3 LS from the moon.

LIGHT takes 100,000 YEARS to cross from one side of the milky way to the other.

The nearest star - Alpha Centuri (afer the Sun) is 4 light years away.

Our nearest galaxy, Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy is about 25,000 LY away.

The galaxy Andromeda is 2.2 million light years away (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this)

Our solar system orbits a loop in the galaxy every 225 million years.

Anyone interested in scale, try this for size... The Gaseous pillars in the Eagle nebula...



If you look about halfway up on the left hand side, the tiny two pink stars to the right of the pillar... that is bigger than the diameter of our solar system.

And just for the 'vastness' factor, the most distant object pictured is...



... 12 billion light years away. Just think about that for a minute!


Posted by RapidFire on Dec-13-2006 00:38:

read this a while ago. very well put together. kinda makes you re-think all the problems in your life and realize how insignificant they are


Posted by RickyM on Dec-13-2006 00:41:

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
What intrigues me about the size of the Universe is that life and other things could be going on that we know nothing about, e.g. Star Wars taking place somewhere else or something!!

Other random facts: We are about 500 light seconds from the sun, and 1.3 LS from the moon.

LIGHT takes 100,000 YEARS to cross from one side of the milky way to the other.

The nearest star - Alpha Centuri (afer the Sun) is 4 light years away.

Our nearest galaxy, Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy is about 25,000 LY away.

The galaxy Andromeda is 2.2 million light years away (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this)

Our solar system orbits a loop in the galaxy every 225 million years.

Anyone interested in scale, try this for size... The Gaseous pillars in the Eagle nebula...


If you look about halfway up on the left hand side, the tiny two pink stars to the right of the pillar... that is bigger than the diameter of our solar system.

And just for the 'vastness' factor, the most distant object pictured is...



... 12 billion light years away. Just think about that for a minute!


And yet none of those things are as big as some of the egos on here!

Seriously though, those facts are scary...that our solar system is like a grain of sand in the ocean.


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Dec-13-2006 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
And yet none of those things are as big as some of the egos on here!


+1!!

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Seriously though, those facts are scary...that our solar system is like a grain of sand in the ocean.


It does boggle the mind. I'd love to be an astronaut and go up and see it for myself, 'in the flesh' as it were!


Posted by Omega_M on Dec-13-2006 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
And yet none of those things are as big as some of the egos on here!

Seriously though, those facts are scary...that our solar system is like a grain of sand in the ocean.

But the insignificant being with his ego is capable of probing the vastness of this Universe


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