Why does everyone hate Sean Tyas?

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Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
I'm sure Cascada gets just as big of a crowd

Really, comparing numbers to say something about quality? You must be shitting me!

Edit: Shit, beaten to it

last i checked quality is opionated...

Posted by denys envy on Dec-24-2006 10:05:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
yea he need all the condolances he can get at this point.. his cancer is killing the scene.. nice work bro..
im sure your opinion (which ur entitled to) is making the scene better... HAHAHAHAH
look how dead the scene looks, what a shame those 7000 people had to suffer with sean--HAHA--

nice t-shirt... 69 ha ha that was funny when we'd talk about it back in 8th grade.

moving on. tyas has a style and he's run it into the ground. i think the problem is that he can't get away from it and try to come up with more and fresher sounds than what he's already been doing. now that's not to say that it's bad or that others haven't played the same game before (Benassi comes to mind with the satisfaction synth) BUT there's only so many times one can stand the same "style" being put into different tracks. sean, as an artist, must realize that he should evolve himself and constantly redevelop as a producer. and not in the "throw it out the window" sense but more so "let's try something new today".

AND big respect to the guy for going out on a limb and remixing classics. that's ballsy and i'm sure he knew a lot of old school peeps would totally go ballistic.

ADD version: one or two tracks of the same remix is fine. more than that is just asking for it.

ps - i'm drunk so this should make no sense.

Posted by denys envy on Dec-24-2006 10:06:

Posted by Shade on Dec-24-2006 10:06:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
last i checked quality is opionated...

Err yes - to a far extent anyways.

In any case I was simply pointing out the fact that comparing him getting a crowd to him making quality music/helping the scene is a ridiculous presumption. You simply put forth a really, really shitty argument in his defense.

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Aristronica
nice t-shirt... 69 ha ha that was funny when we'd talk about it back in 8th grade.

moving on. tyas has a style and he's run it into the ground. i think the problem is that he can't get away from it and try to come up with more and fresher sounds than what he's already been doing. now that's not to say that it's bad or that others haven't played the same game before (Benassi comes to mind with the satisfaction synth) BUT there's only so many times one can stand the same "style" being put into different tracks. sean, as an artist, must realize that he should evolve himself and constantly redevelop as a producer. and not in the "throw it out the window" sense but more so "let's try something new today".

AND big respect to the guy for going out on a limb and remixing classics. that's ballsy and i'm sure he knew a lot of old school peeps would totally go ballistic.

ADD version: one or two tracks of the same remix is fine. more than that is just asking for it.

ps - i'm drunk so this should make no sense.

haha yea keep off the booze

Posted by denys envy on Dec-24-2006 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
haha yea keep off the booze

i disagree. alcohol is amazing.

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
Err yes - to a far extent anyways.

In any case I was simply pointing out the fact that comparing him getting a crowd to him making quality music/helping the scene is a ridiculous presumption. You simply put forth a really, really shitty argument in his defense.

make this known.. im not here to defend sean.. im here to give you all "my opinion"... dont like it, cry

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Aristronica
i disagree. alcohol is amazing.

touche!

Posted by Shade on Dec-24-2006 10:10:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
make this known.. im not here to defend sean.. im here to give you all "my opinion"... dont like it, cry

That's a rather childish reply.
You're a waste of time.

Posted by denys envy on Dec-24-2006 10:10:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
make this known.. im not here to defend sean.. im here to give you all "my opinion"... dont like it, cry

then you should be able to take other's opions by default.

right?

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
That's a rather childish reply.
You're a waste of time.

Posted by denys envy on Dec-24-2006 10:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
That's a rather childish reply.
You're a waste of time.

i disagree also. music is always subjective to the listener.

Posted by DJ Patski on Dec-24-2006 10:13:

He has skill, just seems to be using it in the wrong way imo.

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Aristronica
then you should be able to take other's opions by default.

right?

am i not? where did i say anyone was wrong for feeling any certain way about any track he did?
the arguement i brought is that his style cant be that bad, if labels are coming to him with offers for remixes..
its a messageboard, right? for discussion-- so we are discussing

Posted by denys envy on Dec-24-2006 10:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
That's a rather childish reply.
You're a waste of time.

hmm

well i don't see why your opinion would matter more than his. so he rather does have a point.

on the flip side - (brought up in another thread) music is subjective to the listener. so everyone has a right to like/dislike a certain thing and definitely has the right to give their opinion about it. freedom of speech baby - only good thing about US... that and hot rich girls that blow me off on a nightly basis.

Posted by denys envy on Dec-24-2006 10:17:

did anyone else see me quote that guy twice???

completely drunk right now. that made me laugh!

Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-24-2006 10:19:

the thing is that if Sean Tyas had came forward 5 years ago he would had a completely different response and some of his stull would be classed as "classics". But his sound is drown with all the hundreds of other producers which sound very similiar.

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:25:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
the thing is that if Sean Tyas had came forward 5 years ago he would had a completely different response and some of his stull would be classed as "classics". But his sound is drown with all the hundreds of other producers which sound very similiar.

so again, why is sean getting alot more work than other people?

Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-24-2006 10:29:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
so again, why is sean getting alot more work than other people?

a producer can be very creative and just spit out tunes. doesn't mean that he is great or so. also he attracts the new audience. alot of those who just got into trance.
on the opposit alot more work also leads to a decline in production quality, which is the case in Seans productions.

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:31:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
a producer can be very creative and just spit out tunes. doesn't mean that he is great or so. also he attracts the new audience. alot of those who just got into trance.
on the opposit alot more work also leads to a decline in production quality, which is the case in Seans productions.

so now similar sounds = creativity?
i never said he was great, nor do i think he is.. im stating MY OPINION on the current situation

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-24-2006 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
so now similar sounds = creativity?

Now where did you get that from?

Posted by Armin on Dec-24-2006 10:38:

Try to listen is rework to "Selu vibra - Divine"...probably it's made in 3 minutes ...

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Now where did you get that from?

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
But his sound is drown with all the hundreds of other producers which sound very similiar.

then he stated
quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
a producer can be very creative and just spit out tunes.

makes sense right?

Posted by borgata on Dec-24-2006 10:39:

Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-24-2006 10:40:

quote:
Originally posted by borgata
so now similar sounds = creativity?

read my reply again.

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