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I'd say do whatever would make you happier but paying for college, especially out of state tuition on your own will be tough. If you know you'll be able to survive financially on your own, go for it.

If you're sick of VT you'd be pretty sick of Montreal soon enough.

Go to University of Miami or UFL (smth like that) - nice weather all around, party city, good schools. Though pick a subject that would be good for you in a long run and it would give you a prospect of some job. "Social Studies", "Liberal Arts" or even... "Law" would probably land you with shitload of loans and no way to repay them. College loans can be obtained with a very good percentage but you do have to study for some of them and show certain GPA. If you're on academic probation now, you wouldn't be able to transfer your credits. You'll probably have to apply to another school without being able to get credits for the classes you already took (assuming you had C+ or higher). Can't say for sure but check into it, could be important.

Now, keep in mind that housing/food costs money. Regardless of where you go it is something you'll have to pay for. Consider that you'll have to study/work and make enough to cover your bills. Oh, and mum and dad might be pissed but if they see you progress and do nicely - who knows, they might throw you a bone (read: money)

short version: if you're afraid of challenge and fucking up your credit history for next 7 years (worst case scenario) - stay home.

otherwise - get this show on the road and live your life.

I wish I could have done it back when I had a chance. Personally, I'll kick my kid out of the house by the time he's 18. I want him to learn independence and see the world. I want him to be independent and self-sufficient. As much as I love him - I want him to know that he can make it on his own. But I'll be there to watch his back.

fuck the shit out of some rich guy

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Originally posted by DjConfessions fuck the shit out of some rich guy

I'm rich

If she's sick of Vt saying she'd be sick of MTL is pretty stupid. baseless really.



Caela, would be great if you came to mtl, you know how it rocks, but fuck.


student loans have got to be a bitch.


However, people do it all the time and most of them seem ok

maybe ask for a compromise? or will your parents not help at all if you go to canaduh?

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Originally posted by Ygrene Better that then paying for your tuition for 10-12 years, like me. Or to try working full-time and taking a few classes here and there. I don't understand why you would want to go out-of-state to a particular school if you don't know what you want to study?

I agree.

4 years may seem like a long time. But if you move away you're going to have to not only work enough to support yourself, but try and do school full time on top of that, and you'll probably need loans just to pay for tuition and books. A change of scenery is nice, yes, but I don't see how it would help you choose a career any better.

Look, very few people have an absolute idea of what they want to do when they're entering college. And many of them still don't know by the time they have their degree, and they end up going back to school for something else. That's normal.

Do understand, however, that a degree is your ticket to a more comfortable job. I agree that money isn't everything, but when you're making a comfortable living, you have a LOT more options open to you. 4 years might seem like a long time right now, but in the long run it might be the best choice.

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Originally posted by Caela yesssss...i know. i just wanna take some time off until i know what i wanan do, and am serious enough to stay focused.

Then take your time off, and take up your parents' offer when you're ready.

Stay and keep studying. Use your holidays to travel around the world and see shit if you need to. You could even go on exchange.

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Originally posted by emc^2 If you're sick of VT you'd be pretty sick of Montreal soon enough. Go to University of Miami or UFL (smth like that) - nice weather all around, party city, good schools. Though pick a subject that would be good for you in a long run and it would give you a prospect of some job. "Social Studies", "Liberal Arts" or even... "Law" would probably land you with shitload of loans and no way to repay them. College loans can be obtained with a very good percentage but you do have to study for some of them and show certain GPA. If you're on academic probation now, you wouldn't be able to transfer your credits. You'll probably have to apply to another school without being able to get credits for the classes you already took (assuming you had C+ or higher). Can't say for sure but check into it, could be important. Now, keep in mind that housing/food costs money. Regardless of where you go it is something you'll have to pay for. Consider that you'll have to study/work and make enough to cover your bills. Oh, and mum and dad might be pissed but if they see you progress and do nicely - who knows, they might throw you a bone (read: money) short version: if you're afraid of challenge and fucking up your credit history for next 7 years (worst case scenario) - stay home. otherwise - get this show on the road and live your life. I wish I could have done it back when I had a chance. Personally, I'll kick my kid out of the house by the time he's 18. I want him to learn independence and see the world. I want him to be independent and self-sufficient. As much as I love him - I want him to know that he can make it on his own. But I'll be there to watch his back.

best advice so far.


i really do need to travel...but i don't have the $$$.

i don't think my parents would pay for me even if i took a while off.

i'm drunk...and this is probably not helpig my cause. rip aria.

thank you guys for your adviec, i really appreciate it

It doesn't matter. You will synthesize happiness in both situations apparantly

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Originally posted by Caela c0r Version: Pick one: A. Go to college for 4 years, have parents pay for it...be unhappy B. Defy parents, move away and go to school elsewhere, pay for it by myself...be happy

How bout C. Go back and in live with your parents, graduate, and then live alone. You'll save a lot of money on rent, food, etc.

Living alone is overrated. Don't do it because it's the cool thing to do or because you want to have independence and party hard.

You also said you have a hard time choosing a career. Don't waste time. Take a personality test (meyers-brigg) and a career test(forgot the name of that test). After that the adminstrator should give you a bunch of results for careers that might suit you the best or careers you'd probably be interested in. Pick a major and visit your advisor to schedule you a proper set of classes.

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808 How bout C. Go back and in live with your parents, graduate, and then live alone. You'll save a lot of money on rent, food, etc. Living alone is overrated. Don't do it because it's the cool thing to do or because you want to have independence and party hard. You also said you have a hard time choosing a career. Don't waste time. Take a personality test (meyers-brigg) and a career test(forgot the name of that test). After that the adminstrator should give you a bunch of results for careers that might suit you the best or careers you'd probably be interested in. Pick a major and visit your advisor to schedule you a proper set of classes.

fuck THAT. there is NO WAY i'm moving back with my parents. and for reasons i will not induldge with the c0r. but no.

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Originally posted by farley I completely understand what you mean here, in fact it's what I'm doing right now. I got my general credits done, and decided to take some 'time' off until I could find what I wanted to major in. I justified it thinking that I'm wasting money if I end up spending it on a major I can't stand. Problem is, I'm now nearly 2 years down the line into this time off and to be honest I really don't see myself finding what I want to do anytime soon. If you take time off I'm sure you'll (like myself) work full time, which at least for me doesn't lend itself too well to finding what I want to do as you tend to get so involved in the day to day grind. Unfortunately we don't all know what we want to do when we graduate high school; for myself, I think the best way to find what you actually want to do would be to take a few different courses that interest you (even just somewhat) and see how they work out after a semester. You never know, something that only mildly interests you could end up being something you enjoy doing for the rest of your life.

read this over and over again.


also, when taking varied courses, talk to the prof about careers in that field. They can tell you what it's really like. I know for psychology at least what you learn in class isn't really what a job n psych is about. So getting the extra input is important.


but id say stay in a good school thats paid, you will realize how nice it is when you don't have to pay $600/month when you get out making $30k/yr. its way better owing $0.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 ....you will realize how nice it is when you don't have to pay $600/month when you get out making $30k/yr. its way better owing $0.

Until someone actually experiences this, I think it's difficult to understand what it's like paying rent/mortgage, car payment, insurance, groceries, monthly bills AND a big loan payment and then taking whatever is left over and dividing up between savings and spending.

Its a fact, the longer you stay in school, the more successful you are. Go for the deca-graduation

Dont be stupid.Ur young and naive.

Choose A. Get that stupid degree..and get a nice job.Maybe u'll learn to like it. Maybe u dont.

Chances are u still got nuff money for some coke and study some other stuff. 2 degrees in this world= u not getting raped.

Stop the moaning, get a grip and make a decision! The choice is yours and yours alone!! I mean worst case scenario if nothing goes the way you planned and you feel like it�s a bit too much for you, crawl back to your parents hut for some help, no way they will turn you down, that�s what they are here for.

Just so you know, you are lucky�you can't even understand how lucky you are for even having this opportunity to choose your path in life�think about it!

Ohh and btw, I also really wanna travel see the world and shit but unfortunately I'm stuck in the damn army for 2 more years�life is a bitch!!

thanks everybody for your suggestions/opinions.

i realize that i'm taking this opportunity for granted, and i should just suck it up. i can travel when i finish school. paying for college is a HUGE investment, and not something to waive.

eesh...i can wait to have kids of my own.

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Originally posted by Caela Long Version so i'm probably going to kick myself for making this thread after the overwhelming support from the last one...but i'm sick, home, and bored. ok...i'm having one of those life transition times...where you're not quite sure what you want to do, or what you should do. at the end of high school, i moved out of my parents house abruptly - we didn't have a good relationship, but that's a completely different can of worms. so anyway, this upset them TREMENDOUSLY (they still won't let me live it down), and moved to burlington (next town over from my hometown). i then deferred my enrollment at the local university, took a year off, and worked. with my parents pressuring me start school again, i enrolled in classes, and just finished my first semester. it sucked. i have no idea what i want to study (and still don't), my smallest class was 150 kids (UVM also has the highest instate tuition in the country @ $10,000/yr [not counting room/board]), and i know this town like the back of my hand...i'm so sick of it. i have this overwhelming feeling of discontent, there's so much that i need to see and this stupid town is like a sesspool of negativity, boredom, and trustfund kids (which i am the last thing from). and to top it off, after going to all of my classes, doing all of my work...i BARELY passed my classes. i'm on academic probation now, and if i get one more semester of that, i am dismissed. my parents won't pay for me to go to any other school. i tried explaining this to them (haven't told em about my grades yet), but they are puzzled as to why i can't just "suck it up for 4 years".... 4 years is a LONG ASS TIME to do something that makes you unhappy. has anyone been trapped like this? i'm thinking of withdrawing at the end of my freshman year, and applying to a school in montreal for the winter semester '08 (where i have wanted to go for a few years now), and working up until then. and then basically taking out a shitload of loans and wracking up debt. but hey at least i'll be happy, and that's worth it to me. for some godforsaken reason, this would devestate my parents because i'm the oldest kid, and have done a terrible job of weening them off of me. and i'm sure they'd highly doubt that once i withdraw, i'll actually go back. i have a very high appreciation for education, i enjoy learning, and i know what it's like to bust my ass working without a degree...something i don't plan on doing for the rest of my life. any advice? or stories about when you were put in a tough situation where you knew people would disapprove (people that mattered to you)? what did you do? c0r Version: Pick one: A. Go to college for 4 years, have parents pay for it...be unhappy B. Defy parents, move away and go to school elsewhere, pay for it by myself...be happy

my room mate/ bff is paying her own way through college. it's a tough decision to make, but it is so worth it to her. the debt will suck and it is stressful but don't stay at a school you're unhappy with. whatever you choose, make sure to stay and finish school. i know you will, but just had to say it.

and who knows. maybe if you take that step to go somewhere else, your parents will realize how important it is to you and they'll help you out. i think it's absurd that they would only pay for your education if you were going to the school THEY wanted. that seems silly.

Under a risk of sounding like a male chauvinist pig, I hate to say it... but I will anyway. Most of the women I meet that have college degrees are all looking forward to getting married, so that they wouldn't have to work. I know woman who was a successful lawyer for 4 years. She then got married - she's now a stay-at-home mom with no plans of going back to work anytime soon.

There are at least 5 other women examples that I personally know just like it. None of them have to work coz' hubbies make tons of money. They all got 2 or more degrees.

Why bother with college and loans when you can have a man pay for you?


i keed, I keed. but still - a large percentage of women who have college degree opt out of working in their respective professions (at least full time) if opportunity presents itself.

I say look for prince charming while attending community college. I don't believe too many men will turn their nose at you just because you're not a Yale or Harward grad.

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa that seems silly.

they are silly. they're from new jersey...that asplains it.

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Originally posted by aNYthing Why bother with college and loans when you can have a man pay for you?

i will NEVER be carried by a man. i am very independent...no way no how.

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Originally posted by aNYthing I say look for prince charming while attending community college.

i do not go to community college. the University of Vermont is one of the top 5 oldest universities in the country and is a really good school. now if only i can pass my classes!

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Originally posted by Caela the University of Vermont is one of the top 5 oldest universities in the country and is a really good school. now if only i can pass my classes!

i lol'd

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Originally posted by Caela i will NEVER be carried by a man. i am very independent...no way no how. i do not go to community college. the University of Vermont is one of the top 5 oldest universities in the country and is a really good school. now if only i can pass my classes!

shit yo
uvm's expennnnnsive for out of state

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