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Posted by metalgearsolid on Dec-30-2006 18:44:

Is it just me. Or could this be an incentive for the Bush Adm to justify an attack on Iran? Well this will turn out great. Think about it a new war. One with a nation that can actually defend itself and that has strong friends.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-30-2006 19:17:

I doubt the U.S is stupid enough to attack Iran right now,but then again you have a brainless president like Bush so anything is possible.


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-31-2006 12:13:

Hmmm, an Iranian Division against an American, we know
who would win. Besides we'd use naval and air assests
to cripple their nuclear weapons research and send them
back ten years in it.

And whatever 'friends' you think they have would not
send troops to help them lol


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-31-2006 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC
Hmmm, an Iranian Division against an American, we know
who would win. Besides we'd use naval and air assests
to cripple their nuclear weapons research and send them
back ten years in it.

And whatever 'friends' you think they have would not
send troops to help them lol


The US cannot win wars with small nations like Iraq. You think they can "win" a war with Iran?

Your military has become a myth and you should be emabarrased with the outcome in iraq.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-31-2006 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC
Hmmm, an Iranian Division against an American, we know
who would win. Besides we'd use naval and air assests
to cripple their nuclear weapons research and send them
back ten years in it.



lol

ya thats similar to what they said about going to Iraq,and look at them now.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Dec-31-2006 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
The US cannot win wars with small nations like Iraq. You think they can "win" a war with Iran?

Your military has become a myth and you should be emabarrased with the outcome in iraq.

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
lol

ya thats similar to what they said about going to Iraq,and look at them now.

I hate to tell you guys that while Bush's "Mission Accomplished" was premature (since the mission was winning the war and the reconstruction of the country), we DID win in Iraq. We toppled a government, just like we would in Iran.

The US has the firepower to win wars, we just don't have the numbers to maintain peace. Our country's population (and subsequent military forces) lack the size.


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-31-2006 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I hate to tell you guys that while Bush's "Mission Accomplished" was premature (since the mission was winning the war and the reconstruction of the country), we DID win in Iraq. We toppled a government, just like we would in Iran.

The US has the firepower to win wars, we just don't have the numbers to maintain peace. Our country's population (and subsequent military forces) lack the size.


LOL.. you are in denial.. NOTHING HAS BEEN WON!!!!

Nothing is finished.. You are LOSING.. dont you see it with your eyes????

Toppling a governmnet doesnt mean youve wont he war.

The US CANT even touch Iran. You can even control afghnistan.. you gave combative power to the canadians.. becuas eyou have amess in iraq. And you think Iran would be a peice of cake??

The persians would tear the US apart. Its not a small nation like iraq or Nicaragua or Afghnistan.. the Persians actually have a military and destructiive weapons.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Dec-31-2006 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
LOL.. you are in denial.. NOTHING HAS BEEN WON!!!!

Nothing is finished.. You are LOSING.. dont you see it with your eyes????

Toppling a governmnet doesnt mean youve wont he war.

The US CANT even touch Iran. You can even control afghnistan.. you gave combative power to the canadians.. becuas eyou have amess in iraq. And you think Iran would be a peice of cake??

The persians would tear the US apart. Its not a small nation like iraq or Nicaragua or Afghnistan.. the Persians actually have a military and destructiive weapons.


HAHAHAHA!!!

Talk about delusional; too much egg nog?

There's no denying if it came to an all out, no holds-barred war, that Iran would be a smoldering pile of ashes, but no one uses a scorched-earth policy unless you are, sorry 'were', Saddam.

I wouldn't exactly call Iraq small either CK.
Remember the problem wasn't winning the war, it's maintaining the peace (or lack thereof) which is obviously more taxing.


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-31-2006 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
HAHAHAHA!!!

Talk about delusional; too much egg nog?

There's no denying if it came to an all out, no holds-barred war, that Iran would be a smoldering pile of ashes, but no one uses a scorched-earth policy unless you are, sorry 'were', Saddam.

I wouldn't exactly call Iraq small either CK.
Remember the problem wasn't winning the war, it's maintaining the peace (or lack thereof) which is obviously more taxing.


The US has never attacked a nation as big as Iran in the last 30 years.. warefare has changed quite a bit. They leveled iraq becuase their airforce was almost non-existant.

You are not looking at things logistically. They cannot attack Iran as well as you think they can. Otherwise.. it would have been done sir.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Dec-31-2006 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
LOL.. you are in denial.. NOTHING HAS BEEN WON!!!!

Nothing is finished.. You are LOSING.. dont you see it with your eyes????

Toppling a governmnet doesnt mean youve wont he war.

The US CANT even touch Iran. You can even control afghnistan.. you gave combative power to the canadians.. becuas eyou have amess in iraq. And you think Iran would be a peice of cake??

The persians would tear the US apart. Its not a small nation like iraq or Nicaragua or Afghnistan.. the Persians actually have a military and destructiive weapons.

I think one true test of military superiority would be fighting a war on home turf. Iran would have no chance in such a situation attacking the US. I really don't understand how you could be so dense on such a subject.


Posted by Sunsnail on Dec-31-2006 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I think one true test of military superiority would be fighting a war on home turf. Iran would have no chance in such a situation attacking the US. I really don't understand how you could be so dense on such a subject.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Dec-31-2006 22:37:

This is simple. Iran would go berserk and launch all its weapons to its neighbors. Causing massive destruction in the Middle East. Than they would continue to fight the American's the same way the Iraqis are doing.


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-31-2006 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
The US has never attacked a nation as big as Iran in the last 30 years.. warefare has changed quite a bit. They leveled iraq becuase their airforce was almost non-existant.

You are not looking at things logistically. They cannot attack Iran as well as you think they can. Otherwise.. it would have been done sir.


You know nothing of current military power of Iran or
the United States by your dumb statements. It's pretty
obvious.

Their Air Force is crap, our technical superiority will
give us total air dominance. Their SAM sites will be
taken out by cruise missles and our stealth planes just
like Iraq had, which used to have one of the most formidable
in the world.

Our armor and infantry divisions can take their republican
guard divisions easily just like we did to the 'elite'
republican guards of saddam. Their T-82s and T-90 are no
match for our Abrams.

Our warships, subs, and aircraft carriers will have no problem
launching planes and cruise missles into Iran.

Point being, we can obliterate their army and air force.
Do we want to occupy them? No. We just want to hurt their
nuclear weapons research and push it back a decade. That
only take an air campaign. But they've threatened to retaliate
by clossing the strait near them that 1/3 of the world's
oil goes thru. They've illegally occupied an island there
and garrisioned troops and anti-ship missles to attack
oil tankers.
So mostly Naval and Air combat would take place and that's
where our high-tech weapons will have a huge advantage.
Sure you might say guerilla tatics and IED might hurt us
AFTER we are all over the country after the initial invasion
but it will be Naval and Air only.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-31-2006 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC
You know nothing of current military power of Iran or
the United States by your dumb statements. It's pretty
obvious.

Their Air Force is crap, our technical superiority will
give us total air dominance. Their SAM sites will be
taken out by cruise missles and our stealth planes just
like Iraq had, which used to have one of the most formidable
in the world.

Our armor and infantry divisions can take their republican
guard divisions easily just like we did to the 'elite'
republican guards of saddam. Their T-82s and T-90 are no
match for our Abrams.

Our warships, subs, and aircraft carriers will have no problem
launching planes and cruise missles into Iran.

Point being, we can obliterate their army and air force.
Do we want to occupy them? No. We just want to hurt their
nuclear weapons research and push it back a decade. That
only take an air campaign. But they've threatened to retaliate
by clossing the strait near them that 1/3 of the world's
oil goes thru. They've illegally occupied an island there
and garrisioned troops and anti-ship missles to attack
oil tankers.
So mostly Naval and Air combat would take place and that's
where our high-tech weapons will have a huge advantage.
Sure you might say guerilla tatics and IED might hurt us
AFTER we are all over the country after the initial invasion
but it will be Naval and Air only.



LOL


Get your head out of your ass and think about the consequences if such attacks do ever take place.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Dec-31-2006 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
LOL


Get your head out of your ass and think about the consequences if such attacks do ever take place.


Or what?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-31-2006 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Or what?



you areally dont know whats gonna happen if Iran gets attacked to you?I should have known


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-31-2006 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
you areally dont know whats gonna happen if Iran gets attacked to you?I should have known


Whatever it is, it won't be the total destruction of our
governement and military as it would be for them if we
went all out, gloves off (even without our NBC weapons)...

So you can't scare us with 'what Iran would do' lol.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-01-2007 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
you areally dont know whats gonna happen if Iran gets attacked to you?I should have known


They were talking from a military perspective.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jan-01-2007 08:58:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
you areally dont know whats gonna happen if Iran gets attacked to you?I should have known


Stop trying to change the subject.
You were trying to tell us that Iran could go toe to toe with the States militarily and that is laughable at best.
Don't try and drag the whole Iraq aftermath into this to cover your ass.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-01-2007 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Stop trying to change the subject.
You were trying to tell us that Iran could go toe to toe with the States militarily and that is laughable at best.
Don't try and drag the whole Iraq aftermath into this to cover your ass.



The whole region will get effected including Iraq.You keep trying to ignore the facts and avoiding the big pictur here,but then again you never do anyways.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jan-01-2007 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
The whole region will get effected including Iraq.You keep trying to ignore the facts and avoiding the big pictur here,but then again you never do anyways.


But we're not talking about the 'big picture' here...

We're talking about a straight up, military on military fight, nothing else involved.

Still think Iran could do it?


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