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Hi.

I don't eat A LOT of meat, but I am not vegetarian. I'm probably just like Lilith. 70/30.

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Originally posted by Lilith hehe new way to define 'top of the food chain' I suppose Happy with a healthy diet of about 70% vegetables and 30% meat and besides, cute furry animals taste nice

Which cute furry animals have you eaten? I only eat cows and (grown) chickens, which are definitely not cute.

I think chickens can be a little cute...

Rabbits, pigeons, and fish are cute.

For fish, I eat just salmon. They're not cute.

Pigeons may be cute, but that won't stop a hungry pelican from chowing down on one:

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Which cute furry animals have you eaten? I only eat cows and (grown) chickens, which are definitely not cute.

Tried dog, cat in a few parts of asia, they arent very nice though, very 'gamey' and strong flavoured. Rabbit is really nice though along with deer, kangaroo are kind of similar, a strong flavour and lean without a lot of fat.
Poor bunnies, so cute... yet so tasty

dont forget for those who are vegans, you need vitamin b12 supplements.

vitamin b12 only found in animal products!!

anyways, i love meat!! steak, chicken, pork, lamb, duck, sashimi!!

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Originally posted by jonSun pm Azia if you wanna eat Crabs.

lmfao

I'm a 5th level Vegan - I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.





Seriously though I love meat. Had me a rare wagyu steak the other day and the mere memory of it makes me drool.

I like chicken w/ sauteed vegetables - some pasta on the side, and a glass of fine Merlot.

Woulda been kind of stupid to come to Argentina as a vegetarian.






MEEAAAAAAT!!!!!!

while I probably don't eat some form of meat everyday.....i definitely cannot live without it.

i mean, how could you pass up the following items:

Steak
Hamburgers & variations of said patty
Spaghetti w/ Meat Sauce
Italian Sausage
Chicken Strips
Bacon


i mean, shit the list goes on and on

The automatic systems in your body are constantly hunting down and killing foreign entities. We must kill to live.

If you eat a seed you're killing. If you eat a sprout it dies in your mouth. If you eat a carrot it loses the opportunity to seed and reproduce.

Vegans are horrible mindless killers.

SAVE A VEGGIE, EAT A VEGAN

I think what vegans object to is purposefully causing animals pain, not just "killing."

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I think what vegans object to is purposefully causing animals pain, not just "killing."

Then we would be talking about how animals are killed for food, not THAT they are killed.

I'm not an expert at raising livestock, but I believe that some animals are dispatched in a fairly low-stress way. Compare that to being taken down by a cougar or a pack of wolves who start eating before you're dead.

I'm reminded of the scene from Cold Mountain where the herbalist/hermit woman gently and lovingly cuts the throat of her goat. I understand not wanting to cause undo suffering to anything, but if that were the real concern vegans would spend their time working towards better techniques for killing animals.

Eat what you want, but don't be a hypocrite.

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I'm not an expert at raising livestock, but I believe that some animals are dispatched in a fairly low-stress way.

Not really, no.

On a more general note, many people seem to have the mistaken idea that there is an "easy" and "pain-free" way to die. Except for perhaps clean, extremely quick decapitation, this is false.

The body will struggle with all of its strength before giving up, and it will be painful.

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I understand not wanting to cause undo suffering to anything, but if that were the real concern vegans would spend their time working towards better techniques for killing animals.

There is also the concern of "using" entire species solely for food.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Not really, no. On a more general note, many people seem to have the mistaken idea that there is an "easy" and "pain-free" way to die. Except for perhaps clean, extremely quick decapitation, this is false. The body will struggle with all of its strength before giving up, and it will be painful. There is also the concern of "using" entire species solely for food.

Example: Moo.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Not really, no. On a more general note, many people seem to have the mistaken idea that there is an "easy" and "pain-free" way to die. Except for perhaps clean, extremely quick decapitation, this is false. The body will struggle with all of its strength before giving up, and it will be painful. There is also the concern of "using" entire species solely for food.

Do you have sources to back up the claim that no painless way of killing exists? Come to think of it, it isn't reasonable to consider completely eliminating all pain from the process. Pain and fear is a part of daily life, focusing on a very short duration of pain is more reasonable.

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Originally posted by Ed G Do you have sources to back up the claim that no painless way of killing exists?

If you can think of a way of killing that would be entirely painless, I would be interested to know.

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Originally posted by Ed G Come to think of it, it isn't reasonable to consider completely eliminating all pain from the process. Pain and fear is a part of daily life, focusing on a very short duration of pain is more reasonable.

plants feel pain too.

Maybe so, but probably not in anything like the way animals do, since they have no nervous system.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Maybe so, but probably not in anything like the way animals do, since they have no nervous system.

When considering quality of life I don't focus on the last few moments. Why think in terms of nerve function exclusively? I think in terms of potential. What is the potential of the pecan I'm eating? Instead of becoming a majestic tree living and producing offspring for a century, I turn it into shit so that I may live.

I wouldn't piss off the vegetal world if I were you.

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Originally posted by Ed G I wouldn't piss off the vegetal world if I were you.

I've contemplated this lifestyle, as meat is usually 90% unappealing. i don't know if it's because i'm too lazy to chew or hate that i can feel the extra rare carcass sitting heavy, slowly detiorating itself in my stomach in a span of 2 weeks. sometimes i just really need a bloody steak. however that urge can be conquered with arm/leg and mouth straps.

if i was to become a vegetarian, it wouldn't be for the array of animal activism issues, but health benefits.

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Originally posted by Deeedeee if i was to become a vegetarian, it wouldn't be for the array of animal activism issues, but health benefits.

I'm at a loss to think of any real medical reasons not to eat meat from at least a physical level, it's like everything in a diet though. You overindulge in too much of one thing and it'll have consequences, all about balance and daily requirements.

The 'psychological' aspects of vegetarianism always bemused me because its not something you see anywhere else but westernised countries where people have that oppulent, moral luxury of choice not to eat meat as part of their diet or other pathetic crying for some kind of social attention and help like anorexia and veganism.
I mean really I love animals too but theres so many people in the world who dont have enough to eat, seriously put the selfish, holier than thou attitude up your arse and put the effort into something useful like picking up litter, helping poor folks or even just finding some social cause worth backing.
Comes down to it I'd rather see an animal suffer breifly so someone could eat properly for a day than see a person and their family waste away from starvation.

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