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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC So what has been your point in this thread? That he was a CIA assest and thus shouldn't have been killed? He wasn't a murderer? Our taxpaying money was spent on training him? I don't understand what your problem is... You posted about a comedian and a book. But what about the death of this individual has you all butt hurt over?

No, I don't care wheather he lives or dies. Not sure why you're assuming that. With that in mind, go read my posts again. Might answer your question.

From Shaloin page 1
"Yeah, congratulations . You just killed an ex-employee/false-flag op participant who the intelligence agencies spent atleast a few hundred thosands dollars training in most likelyhood, your tax dollars. Now they spend 10 times that just to get rid of him... again... using your tax dollars, not to mention with great finesse (i.e. extreme incompetence)."

You're pissed about taxpayer moneying being used
for the above?

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC From Shaloin page 1 "Yeah, congratulations . You just killed an ex-employee/false-flag op participant who the intelligence agencies spent atleast a few hundred thosands dollars training in most likelyhood, your tax dollars. Now they spend 10 times that just to get rid of him... again... using your tax dollars, not to mention with great finesse (i.e. extreme incompetence)." You're pissed about taxpayer moneying being used for the above?

Well, that's part of it, but there's more.

He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

Bingo.

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

True

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

what's your point? name any country in the world that's ever had a perfect and unambiguous foreign policy over the last 100 years. all kinds of shit goes on all the fucking time. why is the US always held to a higher standard than everyone else?

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

Then I'd have to say, no, this guy most likely a
terrorist who's never gotten support from the US.

The above scenario is more complicated than that
and I think it's been discussed at length here
before. I think thou it was good neither country
dominated the other in the war or else we'd have
a country incorporating both of them with a lousy
regime at the helm be it Saddam or the hard line
clerics of Iran. But that's just my opinion on the
outcome of the Iraq-Iran war.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN what's your point? name any country in the world that's ever had a perfect and unambiguous foreign policy over the last 100 years. all kinds of shit goes on all the fucking time. why is the US always held to a higher standard than everyone else?

I was helping clarify, and Switzerland.

Why are we held to a higher standard? We're the supposed embodiment of the higher standard according to our founding fathers anyway. We're the lone super power. We stand alone at the top and we're the self proclaimed example for everyone else to live by.

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Originally posted by WM2 Why are we held to a higher standard? We're the supposed embodiment of the higher standard according to our founding fathers anyway. We're the lone super power. We stand alone at the top and we're the self proclaimed example for everyone else to live by.

PREACH ON BROTHER!!!

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

How come when I used this exact same argument last week in the Saddamn hanging threads I, had everyone chewing on my arse and this week its happy hour?
Heck I was picking out pissy emails, cranky PM's, vulgar replies and pretty much everything short of a brick through the window.

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Originally posted by Lilith How come when I used this exact same argument last week in the Saddamn hanging threads I, had everyone chewing on my arse and this week its happy hour? Heck I was picking out pissy emails, cranky PM's, vulgar replies and pretty much everything short of a brick through the window.

It's obviously because I'm so much cooler than you are.

Anyone that argues that isn't the case is either uneducated or not very observant. Knowing the crowd around here I'd go with the former.

I never was 'cool'
They're definately not uneducated around here, in fact most have at least 5-6years or more schooling than I do, but they're very selective about what they observe and quite happy to give you one side of a story if it benefits their debate.

I figure it's not an observance issue since it takes a whole 30 seconds to do a search for Rumsfeld and Saddam and find a nice picture of them shaking hands and the story that goes along with it.

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Originally posted by WM2 Anyone that argues that isn't the case is either uneducated or not very observant. Knowing the crowd around here I'd go with the former.

yes, thats it. one must agree with WM2s assessment of the facts or one is ignorant. nice thinking there einstein.

^^ Instead of taking a stab at him, why not address his argument? Or the facts he brought up?

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Originally posted by Lilith Heck I was picking out pissy emails, cranky PM's, vulgar replies and pretty much everything short of a brick through the window.

I told you I was sorry about the poop bag on fire at yor door step! sheeesh

Wouldnt be so bad if you didnt get the wrong house, old nanna in that one just about had a heart attack.

Better load up the war machine!
Toot toot!

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Rocket fired at US embassy in Athens Police and the US embassy in Greece say attackers have fired a rocket at the embassy in the capital Athens but no one was hurt. Greek anti-terrorist officers are at the scene. "This was a rocket attack launched from a building across the street. It landed inside a toilet on the third floor of the embassy," a senior police official said. "There are no injuries from the blast," a US embassy spokesman said. The senior police official says Greece's deputy police chief and Athens police chief have gone into the building, as have officers of the national security and anti-terrorist squads. Dozens of police cars surrounded the embassy and police cordoned off all roads in the area, including a major boulevard in front of the mission. The tightly guarded US mission is surrounded by a three-metre-high steel fence. Guards are posted at every entrance and at street corners around it. Local residents called in to state television saying they had felt the explosion, which shattered some windows.

Source
Invade Greece!

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"This was a rocket attack launched from a building across the street. It landed inside a toilet on the third floor of the embassy," a senior police official said.

I wish they could do that to the toliets at my work... Some tramp keeps on stinking out the ones in my office.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan I wish they could do that to the toliets at my work... Some tramp keeps on stinking out the ones in my office.

Speaking of that, I went to the can and there was some guy doing his biz quite loud. I was in there taking a piss and the next theing I hear is./...... well you get the idea. How about a courtesy flush buddy

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z ^^ Instead of taking a stab at him, why not address his argument? Or the facts he brought up?

Try following what you preach...

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Try following what you preach...

I do, until you guys avoid addressing every single point made/put words in my mouth, and resort to taking stabs at me instead of acutally addressing the argument. That's when I kick you guys in the balls for crossing the line & being annoying little bitches.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I do, until you guys avoid addressing every single point made/put words in my mouth, and resort to taking stabs at me instead of acutally addressing the argument. That's when I kick you guys in the balls for crossing the line & being annoying little bitches.

ok tough guy from the internet

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC ok tough guy from the internet

LOL, I guarantee I'm a little tougher and far more vicious in real life, but only if people fuck with me. Otherwise I'm very gentle and kind .

Here, this thread should give you some idea:

tranceaddict Forums > Local Scene Info / Discussion > USA > USA - Texas & S. Central USA > UCLA Student abused by police using tazer :VIDEO:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z That's the spirit Zild . I can't honestly say what I would do if I was in a situation like that. I'm very patient, but can only tolerate so much disrespect. I certainly wouldn't let anyone, don't care how big or intimidating they are, trample all over my dignity. I've lashed out before when my buttons were being pressed. But the reason I'd want to avoid that, especially when it comes to a cop, isn't only to avoid legal complications, but the fact that I could end up seriously injure someone. I did Wushu (the flowery eyecandy you see in Hong Kong Kung Fu flicks with no practical application) for 2 yrs, but in combination with working out with some of a couple of real martial artists and learning from them. That really makes me want to avoid confrontations of any type. One of them was a guy who lived in my dorm and was trained by Shaolin monks (how badass is that!) The other, a buddy of mine, started training in various southern Kung Fu styles (including Wing Chun), Chin Na, and different Japanese grappling systems since the age of four. The fact that I've gotton lazy and haven't practiced for over a year now would only encourage me to minimize risks. I typically go for the throat, eyes, groin, temple, shins, and other areas that could end up in serious injuries, even fatal, to begin with. So if I got into a physical confrontation, I seriously doubt my natural response wouldn't be a critical strike. EDIT: Plus, I'm not a big guy, only 5'8, or the stongest or most intimidating person. Another reason I fight fairly dirty if I have to, to end the fight as quickly as possible at minimal expense to myself.

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