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I'm glad that we now understand each other well.

I thought it quite simply explained to you that nothing of any appreciable intelligence came from a closed, ignorant mind that preaches hatred.

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Originally posted by Lilith I thought it quite simply explained to you that nothing of any appreciable intelligence came from a closed, ignorant mind that preaches hatred.

what?

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Originally posted by star-traveller what?

Hint: She's not talking about The Economist.

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Originally posted by Shakka Hint: She's not talking about The Economist.

If you love it so much, why don't you just marry it?

And that concludes our thread, ladies and gentlemen. A round of applause for the shear route of silliness this thread has taken us towards.

Any concluding remarks? Great, moving on.......

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Originally posted by star-traveller If you love it so much, why don't you just marry it?

I prefer to just masturbate on it and throw it away, thx.

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Shutting down/revoking the licenses of news organisations that were not controlled by either the government or Putin backers is the #1 rollback of democratic reforms that there can be.

I can name you at least 10 independent news media in Russia.

And presumably all those shutdown news organisations you meant there, were simply bought by corporations like Gazporm, etc. Well, I don't see anything good here of course, but somebody has to invest money in to media sector.

For example in the US as I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) all major TV news channels are owned by corporations. I don't see you saying here that American government is rolling back democratic reforms.

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel The absolute most important part of any true democracy is the access of information. When the information outlets are all controlled by those interested in keeping the current power brokers in power, democracy suffers.

There are plenty of information outlets to access in any part of Russia. If you didn't know that, they have the Internet thing too.

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Putin has also entertained the idea of changing the constitution to remove term limits. MrS

Fuck, ARE YOU JOKING ME???? Do you read any news at all, boy?
If you don't have anything to say, don't post your own bullshit here.

Putin said it 100 times that he is not going to change anything in the Constitution of Russian Federation.

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Originally posted by Shakka I prefer to just masturbate on it and throw it away, thx.

That is exactly a thing this tabloid is made for.

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Originally posted by star-traveller I can name you at least 10 independent news media in Russia. There are plenty of information outlets to access in any part of Russia. If you didn't know that, they have the Internet thing too. Fuck, ARE YOU JOKING ME???? Do you read any news at all, boy? If you don't have anything to say, don't post your own bullshit here. Putin said it 100 times that he is not going to change anything in the Constitution of Russian Federation.

Yes, its a shame but most people have absolutely nooooo idea what's going on in Russia. They look at the title of an article and don't bother reading whats inside. You are right!

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Yes, its a shame but most people have absolutely nooooo idea what's going on in Russia. They look at the title of an article and don't bother reading whats inside. You are right!

The most terrible thing is that some of them are looking inside,
BUT inside some yellow-junk on an example of The Economist.
And after that, they're making theories based on that information, don't even bother to look in any other source.

2 Shakka:
How many Russian journals did you read before coming up with that judgment?

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Originally posted by star-traveller 2 Shakka: How many Russian journals did you read before coming up with that judgment?

I don't speak Russian, silly!

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Originally posted by Shakka I don't speak Russian, silly!

Well, I can open another big secret for you. They have people who speaks English.

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Originally posted by star-traveller Well, I can open another big secret for you. They have people who speaks English.

Cool. Maybe you could take some lessons from them!

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Originally posted by Shakka Cool. Maybe you could take some lessons from them!

Yeah! But you know, it's pity that they don't teach Americanish language.

Okay okay--enough fun and games. The topic of this thread has to do with Venezuela and Chavez. From yesterday's WSJ (another yellow-journalist piece of shit on part with David Duke?)

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Hugo and Mahmoud January 17, 2007; Page A18 We've known for some time that Hugo Ch�vez is a menace to the economic well-being of his own people. But the question that seems increasingly urgent is whether he's becoming a threat to U.S. security interests -- both in the Western Hemisphere and beyond. Specifically, we'd like to know what Senator Chris Dodd and Congressman Bill Delahunt make of Mr. Ch�vez's weekend summit with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The Iranian President stopped by Caracas on Saturday as part of a four-day engagement with Latin America's new leftist governments. On Sunday, the Iranian communed with Nicaragua's new boss, Daniel Ortega, and then on Monday he hit the inauguration of Ecuador's new pro-Ch�vez President Rafael Correa. [H C] The Caracas visit was Mr. Ahmadinejad's second in four months. "This is just a prelude of what we will do," declared Mr. Ch�vez, in a televised speech announcing the creation of a joint $2 billion fund to finance development and other projects. "This large and strategic fund, brother, is going to be converted into a mechanism of liberation," he added, saying their goal is to build "a network of alliances." In Managua, the Iranian also signed a "broad cooperation accord" with Mr. Ortega. Mr. Ch�vez openly funded the Sandinista's Presidential campaign last year, and he earlier supported Evo Morales in Bolivia. Venezuelan soldiers have reported that they are under orders to give Colombian rebels safe haven, and Mr. Ch�vez signed contracts last year to buy Russian MiGs and open a Kalishnakov factory at home. Meanwhile, the Venezuelan is using his recent election victory to consolidate his grip on the economy. A week ago, he announced he would nationalize the country's electricity and telephone companies; he already controls the oil business. His goal here is to redistribute income but especially to shrink the private economy in order to reduce the space in which any political opposition can operate. The Caracas Stock Exchange Index fell 16% last week, but that didn't phase Se�or Ch�vez. He's moving to withdraw the license of a prominent independent television network, and he has asked Congress to grant him temporary executive power to rule by decree. "The world should know: Our revolution is not turning back," he said. "This is the path our boat is on: socialism. Country, socialism, or death." The world should have known this a long time ago but too many people chose to ignore it. Mr. Ch�vez took office in 1999 on a promise to end corruption and injustice. By 2000, human rights groups warned of a deterioration in constitutional protections, and Mr. Ch�vez began importing Cuban security agents along with Cuban doctors and teachers to spread propaganda. Each time Mr. Ch�vez has faced resistance, he has tightened the screws. Price and capital controls and property seizures became state policy. Employees of the state-owned oil company and its contractors were fired if they opposed the government; political opponents were jailed. All the while, Mr. Ch�vez has had American enablers who excused his growing repression, or blamed it on a reaction to U.S. policy. Foremost among them has been Mr. Dodd, who has defended Mr. Ch�vez as "democratically elected" despite his clear trend toward authoritarianism. In 2004, the circumstances surrounding a recall referendum were so anti-democratic that the European Union refused to act as an observer. Jimmy Carter nonetheless blessed the outcome amid heavy irregularities, and the U.S. State Department endorsed the process. Other politicians, such as Mr. Delahunt, embraced and flattered Mr. Ch�vez for his PR stunt of offering cut-rate oil to poor Americans. Perhaps it's time these Americans paid attention to the kind of "socialism" and "revolution" that their support is helping Mr. Ch�vez to build in Venezuela.

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Originally posted by star-traveller The most terrible thing is that some of them are looking inside, BUT inside some yellow-junk on an example of The Economist. And after that, they're making theories based on that information, don't even bother to look in any other source. 2 Shakka: How many Russian journals did you read before coming up with that judgment?

Another great example is how every single western-based journal talks about how Zhirinovskiy is a Russia's next Nazi leader yet he always condemns the skinheads, ultra-nationalist parties and those that try to otherthrow the state, saying that those same coommunists "overthrew" the government and created tyranny. I still dont get their rationale for that. Not at all.

I dont care much for Chavez because even though he won elections fairly, he as a communist has an evil agenda in mind. Eventually all the lies will surface, like they did with Soviet Union.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Chavez because even though he won elections fairly, he as a communist has an evil agenda in mind.

you can't be a communist wearing rolexes and versachi suits.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid you can't be a communist wearing rolexes and versachi suits.

Versace...


Sure you can--they're called heads of state. Even Kim Jong Ill wears those silly Paris Hilton sunglasses. But otherwise, you are correct.

What, is there specific rules that for example if capitalists invented the car communists cant drive it?

Its the plitical ideology, my friend, and it has nothing to do with the clothes you wear or music you listen to, FOR example.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium What, is there specific rules that for example if capitalists invented the car communists cant drive it? Its the plitical ideology, my friend, and it has nothing to do with the clothes you wear or music you listen to, FOR example.

NO! Communists represent the workers and if you wear expensive clothing that profits the capitalist more than the worker. Than you are going against your own political ideology.

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