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Originally posted by Lilith Yeah, you might have to get a real job where you actually work a little bit more than 5 hours a day!

thats not that bad though, 30 mins for breaks, and 1hr for lunch....


Manual is not my middle name

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Originally posted by Rhuckus As president, I would reduce the power of the executive branch...

Yeah, right!

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Originally posted by LazFX thats not that bad though, 30 mins for breaks, and 1hr for lunch.... Manual is not my middle name

Well hell, we where not likely to ever mistake it for 'Workethic' either

President, we don't have one we have a Prime Minister however.

1. Reorganise the police force. One problem we face in the UK is anti social behaviour and alcohol linked violence. People seemed to get hired into to force due to academical results etc in return their like choir boys on the street they don't intimidate criminals. With the surge in gun culture over here I'd arm the police. I would split the force into two tiers an investigative unit based on people who are academical, and a Nutting Squad who'll be the muscle directly recruited out of the Paratroopers and Marines etc their task will be patrolling the streets and dealing with trouble spots etc.

2. Quit the EU. We pay the European Union �8 million a day what do we in return? Immigrants from new EU states. The EU laws why whould European law be governed by a group of bureaucrats in Brussels?

3. Immigration. There is too many people coming over working manual jobs their contributing towards the economy however we don't have the resources to cope with the influx. The schools are crowded, we don't have enough doctors and dentist etc. We need immigration to be based on a points system to fill gaps in job markets bringing over people who we actually need in society. Also we need strong checks to be performed on people coming over here.

4. Benefit cuts. Two benefits I would seriously reconsider looking at.

Family allowance -Single parent should be supported financially, however silly little teenage girls who get up duff why should I pay for their kids and house the government gives them? If they have two parents I don't think they should be given any money untill they reach 18.

Unemployment benefits - Some people sit on their a*se for �45 a week, you think how many millions it's draining out of the treasury. Unemployment benefits should be given for a year if they can't find work then they will be placed into a job by the government.

5. Crime. I'd build more prisons to house people scrap the ASBO and tagging symstem, commit the crime serve your time it's as simple as that. More Youth detention to hold juvenile offenders. Some people in the UK like nothing better then a few beers and a fight I'd conscript people aged 16 - 21 into the Army if they like fight, help them channel their aggression. Anti social behaviour is rife in some areas majority of it is caused by Youths I'd place curfews for youths on certain estates, gradually they'll learn.

6. Poor areas. It's very sad seeing areas being neglected by the government. People living in rubbish housing, high crime levels etc, lack of facilities. Kids born in these areas have a high chance of becoming criminals. One the biggest things we need in Britain is for the government to put money into inpovished areas build community centres, sporting facilites etc, improve the housing and local ammenities, get decent teachers into their schools.

7. The Military. Create more regiments not disbanding them. I hear some troops are being poorly supplied again invest more money on them. Invest more money on new ships for the navy instead of stalling on projects.

8. Shoot anyone wearing Burberry.

I like that word: conscript


@ Dj O'Callaghan so true man.

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6. Poor areas. It's very sad seeing areas being neglected by the government. People living in rubbish housing, high crime levels etc, lack of facilities. Kids born in these areas have a high chance of becoming criminals. One the biggest things we need in Britain is for the government to put money into inpovished areas build community centres, sporting facilites etc, improve the housing and local ammenities, get decent teachers into their schools.

right on.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z What are you... a communist? Let's get Stalin to run the country too while we're at it.

I think this country needs some one like Stalin. There are too many bullshitters and parasites here.

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Originally posted by LazFX I like that word: conscript @ Dj O'Callaghan so true man. right on.

All it takes is some investment to regenerate areas. We have areas in the UK but were once exclusive areas built in the 1950's the population increases people move away etc, etc the area gradually gets less funding. Here is a steller example.









By today standards the architecture is the most digusting sight to anyones eyes and it makes these areas even more unsafe with blind spots, maze like walkways, poor lighting etc. Due to neglect the parks now a wasteland where people dump stolen cars to change. The safe shops which used to be the centre of community end up being hangouts for gangs of youths, drug dealers etc. People don't leave there homes at night. Effectivly most people are under siege in their own homes.

The UK certainly needs to bin off the European Union and use the money to improve this country.

Hmmm, what would I do if I were Bush?

1. Install a draft to fight the war in Iraq and upcoming war in Iran I plan to create. When I say things like:

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The challenge playing out across the broader Middle East is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of our time.

Like I said last night by deploying an additional 21K more troops to Iraq, knowing I am completely stretching my military might so incredibly thin against the advice of a healthy number of military heads (whom I recently replaced, hehe), against the Joint Chiefs of Staff, against the broad majority of Congress (including many Republicans- hell even Brownback is against me dammit!), I need to make sure we are indeed committed as a country. I and a number of my mouthpiece pundits love comparing this war to that of WWII - I think it's high time we understand just how much our country sacrificed during that war and how much we must sacrifice now.

I will for the first time on my presidency ask our country to volunteer for military service. I will call upon our brave young men and women to fight for my cause, despite the dwindling numbers who don't support that cause. I will call upon my Right Wing Noise Machine blowhards to finally do the same for the first time ever - tell their listeners and my avid supporters to enlist. If that does not produce the numbers needed for my ongoing and endless battle, I will call for a draft. We must remember:

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The challenge playing out across the broader Middle East is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of our time.

This entails sacrifice, and I will make sure everyone understands this sacrifice needed.

I will also try to protect those incoming forces better than I have protected those whom are already there fighting. Things like this will not stand:

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�The thousands of troops that President Bush is expected to order to Iraq will join the fight largely without the protection of the latest armored vehicles that withstand bomb blasts far better than the Humvees in wide use, military officers said.� http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/na...-iraq-headlines

I know it's been quite embarrasing how I've seemingly overlooked this protection in the past for my troops. No more.

I will also allow this Congress to attach benchmarks to my troop increase so I can for the first time create marked goals that demonstrate progress towards our own troop withdrawal and the Iraqi government standing on its own two feet.

2. Start balancing the budget and cease raping Social Security and Medicare funds to pay for all of my proposals, including the war on Iraq and tax cuts I continually and endlessly create especially during wartime (unprecedented in history).

3. Cease borrowing the fuck out of everything I do from other countries so I don't force my country into future bankruptcy or force future generations to pay for my tabs I create

4. Start including the War in Iraq in my annual budget so people can once again see how much this war is costing everyone else

5. Any and all immigration policies that I will create will also entail stricter enforcement on those businesses that willingly and illegally hire illegal aliens. Any fencing and makeshift walls I create along the border must be followed by enforcement within our borders. If I am to consider the act of crossing our borders illegally cannot be tolerated, I must also consider the same intolerance to those who illegally harbor those aliens for their own personal business gain. The law is the law is the law.

6. I will cease my continual stripping of funding for those law enforcement and firefighters here in my own country. My previous practicies of this are embarrassing enough, and considering I must stick to my own rhetoric for fighting the War on Terra, I cannot contradict that rhetoric by weakening such forces here in my own country. I will also agree to the new Democratic bills that abide to the 9/11 Commission requests to help strengthen our stance as well.

7. I will rollback my No Child Left Behind bill, because as I have clearly seen my bill has left many children behind. I cannot continue pretending to enforce the bill without the proper funding that I fail to give, let alone know outright that the goal of 100% pass rate on my tests by 2014 was deliberately made to be unattainable and a means to further destroy public schools altogether. I will also acknowledge that the Houston based model to which my bill was created was fraudulent to begin with.

8. I will stop giving corporate welfare to Big Oil companies. Since I am not a believer in the welfare system, I cannot justify giving away tax dollars to these oil companies, especially when it's clearly revealed such revenues given to them was unnecessary.

7. When it's all said and done, I will then resign for creating illegal signing statements attached to Legislative bills, the most recent allowing me to arbitrarily open any mail I choose. That coincides with me also doing the following:

-wiretapping anyone I choose to name an "enemy combatant", circumventing all known FISA laws
-open anyone's email and trace their internet connections
-name anyone I choose as an "enemy combatant" and locked them up indefinitely without a right to trial (i.e. Habeas Corpus), and torture those individuals with arbitrarily defined by, uhh, me
-claim AUMF powers to invade any country I choose in the name of "War on Terra"
-send any "enemy combatant" I choose to another country to have them interrogated and tortured there (i.e. rendition)

The War on Terror is not a means to give me unlimited Executive Power at the whim of my say-so, despite my lawyers like John Yoo stating otherwise.

I will also rightly apologize in front of Congress for my Administration deliberately misleading us into this war in Iraq with the claims of WMDs, nuclear capability, and al Qaeda connections. I will apologize for withdrawing our attention on bin Laden from our war in Afghanistan, giving that role over to corrupt Afghan warlords, and diverting our attention elsewhere toward Iraq which had nothing to do with the attacks on 9/11.

These are but a few things on my plate, and I will make these ideas plus others known in my 2007 State of the Union Address.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 These are but a few things on my plate, and I will make these ideas plus others known in my 2007 State of the Union Address.

We're also expecting a breakdown of the Iraq announcement yesterday from you

(PS: if youre going to be a Bush, say 'Umm' a lot instead of using a comma)

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Just what we need, more drunk driving accidents and death... Plus higher insurance rates for everyone... Hey if young idiots want to die, they shouldn't take the rest of us out with them.

No. If underage people want to drink they are going to, no matter what. The current drinking age of 21 years is nothing but a small hurdle between them and their alcohol. They will get an older friend to buy it for them, or they will use a fake ID, or they'll simply go to any random, well stocked house party.

Believe me, the difference in maturity/responsibility for most people between their years of 18 and 21 is negligable. If a person is dumb enough to get wasted and drive at age 18, they're probably going to be just as dumb 3 years later.

I'm 20, and I've been drinking recreationally for about 3 years. I can personally attest that being underage has done approximately jack shit to keep me from drinking. And why should it? I drink responsibly, becuase I have the common sense not to do otherwise. The current drinking age is just another futile attempt to protect us from ourselves, when we should really be putting our energy into teaching responsibility and common sense.

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Originally posted by Rhuckus That's it. that's all i would do as president, because that's all the power a president has within the scope of the constitution. don't try to fool yourself. Presidents cannot legalize marijuana, presidents can't make laws.

Half-wit. The president can push for laws and most of his party will support it. 13th amendment. Patriot Act. You really don't understand how things work, do you?

Now let us get to this little jumble of words, which you would call a paragraph.

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and Marc Summers: were you always a failure in life or did your mother just hold your hand too long? You seem to want someone to babysit every interaction between individuals until the end of time. Perhaps the reason the wealthy classes spend so much money on luxury goods is that it stimulates the economy. Having wealthy people SPEND money rewards working people who provide goods and services. TAKING money from wealthy people and redistributing it rewards EVERYONE, irrespective of whether or not they work. Yes Capitalism is a brilliant system, a system where everyone gets exactly the same chance to fail completely. without that chance, NO ONE CAN BE FREE.

Capitalism does not give everyone a chance. The movie, "The Pursuit of Happiness" was bullshit propoganda and a rare occurance. Kids living in the ghetto don't get the education that I have. They have to worry about eating, rather than doing their homework, or finishing a project for school. I've been to many projects in various cities and the demise of some of them have started at the school system. It's an entirely different world that you and I live in, and relating ourselves to those impoverished people would just be disrespectful to them. Capitalism does not give people opportunity to everyone, only to the go-getters. The people that work in an unstable job, where weasles are trying to get their position, have less of a chance to succeed and usually get the shit end of the stick. Don't try and lecture me about the wonders of capitalism, because I've seen enough shit to convince myself that capitalism is quite possibly the MOST unfair economic system that humankind has established.

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The IRS will never be on the side of the people because the people cannot afford to lobby legislatures to create tax law. Parties with the monetary resources to lobby legislatures recieve the deductions and bracketing system they desire. why would they spend so much money if they didn't expect to see a monetary return at least equal to their expenditures?

Any reform is possible with enough passion.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Just what we need, more drunk driving accidents and death... Plus higher insurance rates for everyone... Hey if young idiots want to die, they shouldn't take the rest of us out with them.

So, by your logic, the US drinking age, as compared to other drinking ages around the world, is put in to place because this country is full of idiots? The views on alchohol are the way they are because people in this country are more stupid than in other countries? That's the only logic I can find from your post. It's like, the US needs protection from its own stupidity while the rest of the world seems to not need such rules. Are people around the world just generally less stupid than the US?

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Are people around the world just generally less stupid than the US?

Yes.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers "Capitalism does not give people opportunity to everyone, only to the go-getters"

Hate to break it to ya fella...but that's life. It's true...Everyone will NOT succeed under a free market system.

The "go getters" to generally have more opportunities and more success in life, because they are the ones willing to put in the extra effort to achieve their goals.

Do you think small business owners only put in a 9-5 day?
F*ck no! These people make sacrifices, both personal and financial...They put everything on the line and work their asses off to build a business. And if by some miracle they happen to succeed in their efforts, people like you are eager to slap them in the face and impose as many taxes as you can imagine on the wealth they have earned..

I think your definition of "fair" is severely wacked friend.
You lefties seem to believe that everyone is entitled to a job and a salary simply because they walk and suck air.
The sad fact is that there are many people in this world not willing to put in the extra effort required to succeed...to work beyond a typical 9-5, or to educate themselves in any new areas that may make them more valuable to an employer. They are perfectly content with mediocrity and this is why they don't prosper...NOT because "the system" didn't give them a fair shake at things.

I would wake up every morning and take a loooong piss.

Well, as opposed to the entitlement whore that doesn't want to "go-get" anything for himself but expects to be given "something" for "nothing." Furthermore he expects that "something" to afford him a living standard on-par with the mid-to-upper range go-getters, if not greater. Moreso, the harder it gets for the looter to keep up with the go-getter, the harder he pushes for more looting. "They're making more than their fair share!" he'll say. "I can barely afford to make ends meet (though I just got a new cellphone with a PS3 to boot). The go-getters aren't playing fair! Make them pick up the slack!" So, corrupt politicians who exist for the sake of getting re-elected pander to the highest bidders and target the masses where they will have the most influence. Taxes are levied and the "somethings" flow. The go-getters get fucked and the looter sits on his couch playing a PS3.

Or something like that...

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Do you think small business owners only put in a 9-5 day? F*ck no! These people make sacrifices, both personal and financial...They put everything on the line and work their asses off to build a business. And if by some miracle they happen to succeed in their efforts, people like you are eager to slap them in the face and impose as many taxes as you can imagine on the wealth they have earned..

You need a serious reality check. You should take a dose of sympathy and find the balls to check out the people that work their asses off and make minimum wage. I never said I didn't respect the small business owners. And to tell you the truth, your precious capitalism makes it MUCH harder for them to succeed. Look at the facts and you will see that the majority of small businesses fail over the first 5 years. You're free market just put people into debt for trying to make an honest living.

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I think your definition of "fair" is severely wacked friend. You lefties seem to believe that everyone is entitled to a job and a salary simply because they walk and suck air. The sad fact is that there are many people in this world not willing to put in the extra effort required to succeed...to work beyond a typical 9-5, or to educate themselves in any new areas that may make them more valuable to an employer. They are perfectly content with mediocrity and this is why they don't prosper...NOT because "the system" didn't give them a fair shake at things.

Lazy people are in every economic class. The effort comes from the individual.

Marc Summers, the human windbag: Once again your assumptions baffle me. You yourself state that you cannot know what it's like to claw your way up from the bottom, and i believe that, but then you tell me that i don't know what it's like? Where do you get that information?

I started working fulltime when i was 13 for less than minimum wage so that i could learn a trade. I then proceeded to continue along that route for the next nine years, working after school and during the summers busting my ass to get ahead. Now i'm paying my own way through college and running my own small business full time. Just because you feel the urge to discriminate against people because their daddy wasn't as wealthy as yours doesn't make you compassionate. I would be offended by your egotistical arrogance: that you think people can't pass your station in life starting below you, but all i really feel is pity for you.

I sit in class everyday with people like you, on pell grants and government assistance doing the same classwork load i do and claiming that they can't hold a job. Liberal students who think they have the world figured out before they even try to do an honest days work. So believe me when i tell you taht i underdstand your entitlement mindset, everything has been given to you your entire life and you're afraid to exist any other way. It really was that your mother held your hand too long.

You talk about the problems in the ghetto? the disadvantaged underclass of America? Where did they come from? Did culture spontaneously achieve a welfare class that breeds the attitude of "I'll just stay here because it would be hard to move and find a job and someone else will take care of me?" or did we create it with entitlement programs?

You talk like you think people have it hard today. How? there are more jobs than people to fill them. I can't maintain a full workforce paying ten dollars an hour because the work is "too hard" yet these same college students who won't work for an honest chunk of my money take it willingly as long as it's funneled through the financial aid office. So I AM doing twice the work for half the pay and your claiming that i deserve to be taxed more? what about your daddy? why do you deserve a computer and an internet connection? those seem like luxury items to me.

But that's it isn't it Marc? it's great to be socially active and try to keep up appearances of being compassionate so long as you don't have to take a hard look at what you're really advocating.

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nd relating ourselves to those impoverished people would just be disrespectful to them

Wow, you really are that much better than other people? someone without your mom to hold their hand can't be expected to do an honest days work for an honest days pay? You are a bigot, and you're prejudiced. You think there are people in this world who aren't as good as you. you think that people cannot overcome challenges because you couldn't overcome them, well, let me clue you in on a little secret: you're wrong.

Any street urchin with a desire to improve their situation and a little will power can end up better off than you. I had to blow three years of my life working my hands to the bone rather than going to school so that i could have what i wanted. You know what Marc? I got it. I never took a dime from another man and i earned everything that i have. Don't try to tell me that you're going to reach down graciously and save the downtrodden, all you do is perpetuate society's abuse of the human spirit.

So feel free to call me a half-wit, and i'm glad that you were able to convince yourself that you're right; i'm sure it was difficult. But guess what? this half-wit capitalist got ahead in this world, what are you then trying to say about the people who "can't" ? You ought to be ashamed of the pure scope of your arrogance you egotistical waste of space.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers You need a serious reality check. You should take a dose of sympathy and find the balls to check out the people that work their asses off and make minimum wage. I never said I didn't respect the small business owners. And to tell you the truth, your precious capitalism makes it MUCH harder for them to succeed. Look at the facts and you will see that the majority of small businesses fail over the first 5 years. You're free market just put people into debt for trying to make an honest living. Lazy people are in every economic class. The effort comes from the individual.

First of all, not everyone that starts a small business is going to succeed. That would be impossible. Second, many people don't have what it takes to make it as a small business owners. I've been working in banking for quite some time now and know many people that have small businesses. They're hard working honest people that enjoy having the freedom it gives them despite the fact that it consumes most of their time. People get into it cause it sounds so tempting and wonderful to be your own boss, but not everyone is cut out for it.

As for lazy people it is true that they're everywhere, but socialism only makes the lazy people grow in nubmers. What's the point in exerting effort when everything you could ever possibly need is handed to you? Why go to work when you can make more sitting at home? Why educate yourself when you can get paid $20 an hour to work for the UAW? It's a flawed system, and promoting and fostering these attitudes and habits make a society of inept retards that have no purpose in life.

It's obvious that wealth is handed down, but someone had to go out and earn it. Look at how much effort some of the wealthiest people that ever lived in this country put into earning their fortunes. Look at where they started out in life while you're at it, and you'll find that many of them didn't come from wealthy families.
John D. Rockerfeller is probably the best example. He even spent the last 40 years of his life giving his fortune away. Andrew Carnagie left nearly nothing to his family, and not too long ago Bill Gates pleged $30 billion to his foundation that's actually quite helpful. These people don't just make an obscene amount of money, they tend to give a ton of it away because they came from situations much like the people you would rather codle.

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Originally posted by Rhuckus You talk about the problems in the ghetto? the disadvantaged underclass of America? Where did they come from? Did culture spontaneously achieve a welfare class that breeds the attitude of "I'll just stay here because it would be hard to move and find a job and someone else will take care of me?" or did we create it with entitlement programs?

Well, the black community came from the south, and into the northern cities in a large exodus during the 20th century.

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Separation between blacks and whites in the north was characterized by residential segregation. When blacks moved into northern cities, they first settled down in some neighborhoods with low socio-economic conditions. As the fraction of blacks became higher in a neighborhood, whites began to move out at an accelerating rate so as to avoid contacts with blacks. Some neighborhoods soon became predominantly black. As the black population grew, they need to move to nearby white neighborhoods. However, whites tried many things to resist the "invasion" by blacks. They threatened their potential black invaders; they bombed their first black neighbors (Drake and Cayton, 1945). In many white neighborhoods, landlords signed agreements that prohibited the sale of properties to blacks. These were the so-called "restrictive covenants," which were enforceable by law. The use of restrictive covenants was extensive. For example, in Chicago, it was estimated that eighty per cent of the city was covered by such agreements (Myrdal, 1944). As a result, blacks lived in overcrowded ghettos, where housing cost was artificially high due to limited supply (Hirsch, 1983).

source
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Racism, that's the reason, and if you are ignorant enough to disagree, I pity you.

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what about your daddy? why do you deserve a computer and an internet connection? those seem like luxury items to me.

My daddy is a vegetable.

I used my computer throughout the elections in november, and several months beforehand to prepare. It's a necessity, not a luxury, nice try though. My family isn't wealthy.

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Wow, you really are that much better than other people? someone without your mom to hold their hand can't be expected to do an honest days work for an honest days pay? You are a bigot, and you're prejudiced. You think there are people in this world who aren't as good as you. you think that people cannot overcome challenges because you couldn't overcome them, well, let me clue you in on a little secret: you're wrong.

That's not what I meant. Disrespectful to them because they have harder lives, and we should not compare ourselves to them. Read more carefully, you'll learn to do that if you are ever in the public eye.

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So feel free to call me a half-wit, and i'm glad that you were able to convince yourself that you're right; i'm sure it was difficult. But guess what? this half-wit capitalist got ahead in this world, what are you then trying to say about the people who "can't" ? You ought to be ashamed of the pure scope of your arrogance you egotistical waste of space.

I will, halfwit. You can continue to have the blinders on, and make your precious money. It won't be long before the democrats start to increase taxes a bit, no skin off of my back. Lets just hope there will be some FDR type social programs along with these taxes.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Well, the black community came from the south, and into the northern cities in a large exodus during the 20th century. source ^ Racism, that's the reason, and if you are ignorant enough to disagree, I pity you.

that actually made me laugh. what's the matter? when i said i pitied you did it offend you so much you had to pity me back? You've made a neat point about social constructs for ghettos themselves, but you still refuse to address the issue of the the construction of the entitlement mindset. Congratulations on a successful google search, but kindly remain on topic in the future.

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My daddy is a vegetable. I used my computer throughout the elections in november, and several months beforehand to prepare. It's a necessity, not a luxury, nice try though. My family isn't wealthy.

and i thank you for making my point in your special, special way. Simply because your computer and internet connection are "necessary" does not preclude them from being a luxury item. The reverse is also true: just because there is a wealthy class within our society that leads a luxurious life style does not preclude that class from being necessary. Someone has to purchase the products, provide the venture capital, invest, shop, and otherwise provide the demand for an economy to function.
In your society with no wealthy to provide the business loan, and subsequently purchase the products, how does one better her situation? The list of options would seem to preclude starting a business and being productive.

Furthermore, note that you failed to supply a warrant relieving said computer from the prescription i placed upon it as a luxury item. This failure illuminates the fundamental flaw in your original plan to utilize a governmental actor to unduly tax "luxury" items. If I see your computer as luxury, and you see it as a necessity, which one of us has provided the correct description? If it is you, then you claim the individuals right to discretion, and have no right to tax, if it is I, you admit the caprice and injustice of your own system, and have no right to tax. Imagine that, educated in one's own error by a halfwit.

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That's not what I meant. Disrespectful to them because they have harder lives, and we should not compare ourselves to them. Read more carefully, you'll learn to do that if you are ever in the public eye.

You, as a person of great importance in the public eye , may want to focus on communicating your position more effectively rather than complaining that everyone ELSE can't read carefully enough. We can't relate to them as fellow human beings because of their situation? here again you are claiming that man cannot rise above his station. If the point your feeble mind is attempting to convey is different than the position your rhetoric is repeatedly advocating, please! enlighten me!

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I will, halfwit. You can continue to have the blinders on, and make your precious money. It won't be long before the democrats start to increase taxes a bit, no skin off of my back. Lets just hope there will be some FDR type social programs along with these taxes.

Ah, once again i cower before your superior intellect, cptn fullwit. you are correct, i can continue to make my precious money. It's precious to me because i create that wealth honestly, it is a product of my ability to think, and my will to better my station, and the fact that I live in a country that still claims to allow every individual the chance to do what i have done makes my achievement all the sweeter.

You are also correct that democrats (and i do appreciate that you didn't capitalize that vile name )will likely raise taxes in a short while, but as long as we are maintaining the appearance of reasoned debate, do not attempt to cheaply further your position with falsified personal testimony; it will be skin off your back very soon.

Why are there so many corporations headed overseas? or, didn't you notice the corporate dash for the border past the scope of your blinders? When labor and tax rates are lower in a certain area, that area becomes profitable. Corporations do speak precisely, and i read what they state very carefully. They are out to make money, the same evil, selfish, greedy money that you hope to liberate from their clutches to fund your FDResque socialism. When your strategy for forced equality has made it economically sound for all corporations to abandon this country, who will foot the bill for your "compassion" ?

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When your strategy for forced equality has made it economically sound for all corporations to abandon this country, who will foot the bill for your "compassion" ?

Look lazy people are not the problem. It is the parasites who will take advantage of the system. And it wouldn't matter where it is. Using welfare and section 8 is really easy. And the government couldn't care who it is. Just come in and say you can't work and BOOM! You will have a free ride on every one elses expense.
I consider myself lazy. FYI. But I know I don't want anything from the government. Rather, I just mouch of my parents. But! I do do work around the house and the apartments. And trust me, some tenants are dirty as fuck and assholes. Right now. We have this parasite who says he "felled" through one of the six holes in the apartment due to neglience and he wants compensation. That guy is a parasite and he is on sec 8 and is using any welfare possible to take money out of the system without having to do any work.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt

Capitalizt, why don't you say something yourself, instead of letting someone do it for you. I've replied twice since you've posted and the only thing you can come up with is, "Pwned"?

He didn't do shit. And "Rhuckus" (Ruckus), I never said I was in the public eye, I'm not. I work very closely with those in the public eye, and they review everything they are about to say, because if said wrong, it might ruin them.

And there are many corporations overseas because the WTO has made it unbelievably easy for them to exploit over in another country. And taxes are fairly lenient right now, and certainly not high enough for myself to be satisfied, but yet... there is still outsourcing? That kind of shits all over your idea that higher taxes lead to more outsourcing, because they will do it regardless.

The UAE has high taxes, is a very rich country, and has great social programs, I look up to them.

I'm tired of arguing. You people aren't worth anything... no matter how much money you have.

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