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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Ok, I suppose it's really funny when those sand******s, especially little sand****** girls, get shot in the head. How fucking hillarious.

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Originally posted by Jewlin_Z Ok, I suppose it's really funny when those zionists, especially little zionist girls, get blown up by suicide bombers? How fucking hilarious.

I see your point.

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Originally posted by Dopey I see your point.

What are you a retard? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're doing a very good job convincing me so far.

Re: Israeli Troops Kill 10-Year-Old Palestinian Girl

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Source: Democracy Now Disgusting.

Yes, this is really horrible.

Worse yet is how thousands of Israelis took to the street and gave out candy celebrating the death of this girl

(as Borat would say: ... NOT)

And to add:

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/816058.html Autopsy rules out rubber bullets in death of 10-year-old Anata girl By Jonathan Lis and Yair Ettinger Ten-year-old Abir Aramin was apparently killed by a blunt object, and not by a rubber bullet, as some eyewitnesses claimed, according to the autopsy findings. Aramin, of the West Bank village of Anata near Jerusalem, died last Thursday of injuries incurred two days earlier as she was standing near the entrance to her elementary school. Eyewitnesses blamed her death on Border Police in the vicinity, but disagreed over the cause, with some saying that she was struck by a rubber bullet and others citing a shock grenade. Police sources said autopsy findings indicated Aramin could have been killed by concussion from a shock grenade or by a thrown rock. However, they said, the findings were inconsistent with her having been killed by a rubber bullet: No bullet wounds were found on her body, and the skull injury that caused her death was a large one, whereas rubber bullets, even if they do not penetrate, usually make small wounds. The autopsy was performed last Friday at the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Abu Kabir, with a pathologist hired by Aramin's family in attendance. But while it demonstrated that Aramin was killed by a blunt object - a conclusion with which the family's pathologist concurs - the findings have thus far been insufficient to determine the exact cause of death, because part of her skull, containing vital clues, was removed during the operation that she underwent after being wounded last Tuesday. Today, the pathologists are supposed to receive the results of two computer tomography (CT) scans that she underwent last Tuesday just before the operation, one at Mokassad Hospital in East Jerusalem and one at Hadassah Hospital, Ein Karem, and the pathologists are hoping that these results will help them to pinpoint the cause of death. Border cops quizzed Police investigators also questioned the Border Police involved in the incident under caution yesterday, and police sources said they plan to reenact the incident "as soon as possible." The date of the reenactment is being kept secret for fear that there might be rioting against the police. The Border Police have admitted to firing rubber bullets, saying they did so to break up a violent demonstration that made them fear they would be lynched. However, they deny having hit Aramin.

This is so appalling!

I can't believe that Israeli police are actually investigating this incident They should just award the Border Police officers who killed the girl with cash prizes and a new home for their mothers! Those Border Policeman are heros, all Israeli media should celebrate them!

It is very sad to see a day when Israeli hospitals are open to a wounded dying Palestinian girls and Israeli doctors actually try and save her life?!

And what can I say about the Israeli Media?! That they actually support these investigations and want to hold this incident to scrutiny instead of posting the pictures of the Border policeman for all Israelis to see so we can celebrate their heroism?!

What has Israel turned into?!

Assuming everything there is true (which I'm sure is unbiased being the Israeli press ), yeah, definetly standard procedure. Who exactly do you think you're fooling? Did all of these 660 people go to Israeli hospitals too?

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Some of you threw away any sense of objectivity and willingness to examine events from unbiased eyes.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z No, this kind of stuff doesn't happen everywhere. Name one place that's been under a military occupation for almost half a century now, which still continues till this day. It is really tragic that IDF has so many cold blooded murderers in it. Nothing to be outraged about though right?

And when journalists and foreign aid workers get their heads cut off by Islamic extremists, that happens everyday too huh?
Again, where's the outrage for that?

this death does not negate the fact that if the occupation is brutal and this girl wouldnt have died if Israel didnt colonize their land.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r And when journalists and foreign aid workers get their heads cut off by Islamic extremists, that happens everyday too huh? Again, where's the outrage for that?

That made absolutely no sense whatsoever, just like the rest of your "arguments." Infact, it sounds alot like the BS you were spewing in this thread:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...66&pagenumber=2

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I know who our enemies are. The ones taking away our liberties and freedoms and butchering the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The terrorist hate our freedoms right? Well, they're doing a good job of making most people paranoid about some non-existant network. They terrorized most of us into going to war over WMDs that don't exist eigther. I'd say it's pretty clear who our enemies are. They rushed in the Patrior Act right after 9-11. Later on, they passed the Military Commissions Act & Detainee Bill, nulifying atleast 4 of the constitutional amendmants, including Habeas Corpus.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r So why do you live there again? lol And have you been effected by any of it yet? (Other than watching goof ball videos that would make anyone paranoid)

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Because I was born here, and it's my country. So if it doesn't affect me, that somehow makes it not abhorent and repulsive? That's exactly my point in case you didn't figure it out, well, part of it anyways.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r So you have no patriotism at all then? How droll... Why bother living in a place you hate? Sounds kinda silly to me.

I think that sums up why a mindless brainwashed slave of the state like yourself would say what you just did.

EDIT: Thanks for posting all that btw. I finally have hard evidence of you being a brainwashed slave of the state that considers submission to totalitarinism "patriotism," all your own admissions and words. Why do even post here anymore? Haven't you embarrased yourself enough as it is?

EDIT2: So your alligance is clearly to power and not to ethics, morals, or principles. You're in no postition to accuse of me of anything you hypocrticial scum.

Funny.
We can't cry about other innocents that get killed but cry about ONE girl and I'm the hypocrite....check.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King this death does not negate the fact that if the occupation is brutal and this girl wouldnt have died if Israel didnt colonize their land.

That wasn't at all what I was talking about.
See above.

It's nice how one can skew an argument to fit ones agenda huh?

Its not proven that the girl was killed by israeli soldiers.

some links that discuss this....
http://blog.camera.org/archives/2007/01/post_19.html
http://newsbusters.org/node/10302

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Funny. We can't cry about other innocents that get killed but cry about ONE girl and I'm the hypocrite....check.

Yup. You've demonstrated it ample times in the past; the only reason why I refrained from calling you out on it was purely out of mercy and to spare you the embarrasment. But I frankly don't care anymore since you've demonstrated numerous times how one shouldn't be concerned by it in your case. Once your arguments fail, which they almost always do, you resort to... I'm not even sure what to call it, but it's definetly not an argument.

Plus, your statement is fairly illogical and again demonstrates your total lack of understanding of the situation and inablity to argue. You're comparing contractors etc. being excecuted by extreme fundamentalist groups by people who's country is being bombarded and occupied for no justifiable reason with journalists/photographers who pose no threat being deliberately targetted and killed by the Israeli military. Ofcourse, the only threat they do pose is actually get information and facts out about the occupied territory. Israel obviously can't allow that.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Yup. You've demonstrated it ample times in the past; the only reason why I refrained from calling you out on it was purely out of mercy and to spare you the embarrasment. But I frankly don't care anymore since you've demonstrated numerous times how one shouldn't be concerned by it in your case. Once your arguments fail, which they almost always do, you resort to... I'm not even sure what to call it, but it's definetly not an argument. Plus, your statement is fairly illogical and again demonstrates your total lack of understanding of the situation and inablity to argue. You're comparing contractors etc. being excecuted by extreme fundamentalist groups by people who's country is being bombarded and occupied for no justifiable reason with journalists/photographers who pose no threat being deliberately targetted and killed by the Israeli military. Ofcourse, the only threat they do pose is actually get information and facts out about the occupied territory. Israel obviously can't allow that.

Actually my agreement was quite simple and without confusing the issue with the need to drag in governments, war or terrorism.
It was one of universal humanitarian value; sorry if that went over your head...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Actually my agreement was quite simple and without confusing the issue with the need to drag in governments, war or terrorism. It was one of universal humanitarian value; sorry if that went over your head...

No, not really. It didn't have any context, or add weight to your argument in any way, but I've come to expect that from someone as confused as yourself. Plus, you're the last person who should be talking about "humanitarian value." You might not call yorself a neocon, but you're not terribly different from them eigther. I've never attempted to justify unnecessary force and immoral causes that involves far more violence, destruction, and bloodshed which conventional terrorism pales to comparison.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King this death does not negate the fact that if the occupation is brutal and this girl wouldnt have died if Israel didnt colonize their land.

what about every Native person in North America that dies as a result of alcoholism? They would not have died if there wasn't a brutal occupation of North America. Are Canada and the U.S. going to pack up and move to Antarctica?

can we change the name of the thread to:

"10 Year Old Palestinian Girl Killed with Rock Thrown by Khalalalalalalala Clan Member to Ensure Middle East Unrest Continues" ???

Since the source of the title is not any more valid than the Israeli press. Thanks mods.

Cool Thanks!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King this death does not negate the fact that if the occupation is brutal and this girl wouldnt have died if Israel didnt colonize their land.

conversely, she may have never been born either so, again, your bias, non-objectivity (as pointed out by EvilTree), and malice towards all things American and Israeli has flawed your argument...again.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z No, not really. It didn't have any context, or add weight to your argument in any way, but I've come to expect that from someone as confused as yourself. Plus, you're the last person who should be talking about "humanitarian value." You might not call yorself a neocon, but you're not terribly different from them eigther. I've never attempted to justify unnecessary force and immoral causes that involves far more violence, destruction, and bloodshed which conventional terrorism pales to comparison.

But you'll condone the conventional terrorism as long it fights the Israeli government right?
What better way to try to sway opinion than to post a story about a little 10 year old girl getting killed, like it NEVER happens anywhere else, especially Israel even with thousands of rockets flying over head.
That's a-typical media smut and I would have thought you for one, were better than that.
I'm sure any one of us could dig up a media story regarding children or humanitarian suffering on either side but you know what? It's not needed you know why? Because we're all quite aware of the conflict and there's no need to shake the pom-poms for one side or the other; get some tact.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r But you'll condone the conventional terrorism as long it fights the Israeli government right?

No, unlike you I have principles. And I have the clarity of mind to see the blatantly obvious root cause of it, the occupation and theft of Palestine.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r What better way to try to sway opinion than to post a story about a little 10 year old girl getting killed, like it NEVER happens anywhere else, especially Israel even with thousands of rockets flying over head. That's a-typical media smut and I would have thought you for one, were better than that. I'm sure any one of us could dig up a media story regarding children or humanitarian suffering on either side but you know what? It's not needed you know why? Because we're all quite aware of the conflict and there's no need to shake the pom-poms for one side or the other; get some tact.

I love your empty arguments. It only confirms how dishonest, brainwashed, and pathetic you truly are. It not about sides you degenerate fool, but about finding a peaceful AND just solution. I can see why that's such an incredibly difficult concept for someone such as yourself though, as it's clearly reflected in your definition of "patriotism." Grow the fuck up child. You're not in High School anymore, and Israel isn't your football team.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z No, unlike you I have principles. And I have the clarity of mind to see the blatantly obvious root cause of it, the occupation and theft of Palestine. I love your empty arguments. It only confirms how dishonest, brainwashed, and pathetic you truly are. It not about sides you degenerate fool, but about finding a peaceful AND just solution. I can see why that's such an incredibly difficult concept for someone such as yourself though, as it's clearly reflected in your definition of "patriotism." Grow the fuck up child. You're not in High School anymore, and Israel isn't your football team.

You win teh prize!



Seriously though, just because I seemingly downplay one death, I'm all of a sudden, dishonst, brainwashed, degenerate and pathetic. wow.
That's a lot considering I'm only saying there's MANY deaths on both sides yet you continue down this road of moral authority like it only belongs somehow to the area of Palestine.
At least I don't have to use a girl's death to try and make a point at their expense.
Grow up. Right.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r You win teh prize! Seriously though, just because I seemingly downplay one death, I'm all of a sudden, dishonst, brainwashed, degenerate and pathetic. wow. That's a lot considering I'm only saying there's MANY deaths on both sides yet you continue down this road of moral authority like it only belongs somehow to the area of Palestine. At least I don't have to use a girl's death to try and make a point at their expense. Grow up. Right.

Are you really that fucking stupid?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r But you'll condone the conventional terrorism as long it fights the Israeli government right? What better way to try to sway opinion than to post a story about a little 10 year old girl getting killed, like it NEVER happens anywhere else, especially Israel even with thousands of rockets flying over head. That's a-typical media smut and I would have thought you for one, were better than that. I'm sure any one of us could dig up a media story regarding children or humanitarian suffering on either side but you know what? It's not needed you know why? Because we're all quite aware of the conflict and there's no need to shake the pom-poms for one side or the other; get some tact.

Terrorism, by recent history, is a physical anti-government action anywhere in the world (independence movements are called terrorists as well). Patriot Act have shown this, and a broader definition of who a terrorist can be. By this definition you can call the American revolutionists fighting for independence in 1700s as terrorists. Palestinians want independence. They dont have tanks, airplanes, advanced missiles, GPS etc to fight Israelis. They saw that protesting, fighting with 50-year-old guns has no effect on Israel. So they are forced to used more savage methods of fighting, because these have shown effect in their struggle. I already highlighted this on at least 2 threads around here.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Are you really that fucking stupid?

So that's your rebuttal?
Calling names?
How typical; now grow up.

FireStarter, there is no point in arguing with Jewlin_Z, Cyrus, and Chechnya man (magnewahtever), obviously they have a personal connection with something that has happened. It is very sad that humans cannot forgive the acts of a minority of a population and will take out their aggression on the masses. You and I did not shoot their 2nd cousin, but they associate our support of Israel/Jews with the acts they are so very much affected by. This is human nature, and the reason I don't foresee any peace in that area of the world for many years.

We have to look at it through their lens. If my cousin or my friend's brother, or my teacher's son was killed in some refugee camp by a stray IDF bullet, I would spout the same rhetoric. You cannot listen with anger.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r So that's your rebuttal? Calling names? How typical; now grow up.

I don't need to rebutt a word you're saying since you almost never, if not never, address a single thing anyone says, let alone present a counter argument. But it's kinda funny to see you desperately dodging and sidestepping everything only to post some of lame comeback, if you can call it that. Actually, it's kind of sad, because I really don't take any pleasure in being reminded how pathetic some people can be.

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