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Posted by eXo on Jan-27-2007 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Because most n00bs aren't n00bs at all.


lies


Posted by ZeJayMan on Jan-27-2007 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Because most n00bs aren't n00bs at all.




Posted by mezzir on Jan-27-2007 19:28:

Re: Re: Re: Internet forums and the ironic attitudes of many of the established membe

quote:
Originally posted by Ed G
The difference is that a member who is new to any particular forum may have more experience posting on forums than the most senior member. They may also be more intelligent, funnier, etc., yet the custom is to marginalize the n00b for as long as possible. While the act of hazing n00bs can be fun for it's own sake, it looks like primative territorial posturing. The irony is in elitist intellectuals behaving like a troop of chimps.

if you're saying this behaviour is a charactaristic, in and of itself, of forums, youre dead wrong


Posted by Psy-T on Jan-27-2007 19:39:

Re: Re: Re: Internet forums and the ironic attitudes of many of the established membe

quote:
Originally posted by Ed G
The irony is in elitist intellectuals behaving like a troop of chimps.


have you considered the problem might be with who you consider to be 'elitists intellectuals'?


Posted by Ed G on Jan-27-2007 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
why does the so called "n00b" feel the need to tell everyone that he/she is so great? so wise? so much more knowledgeable than the "elitests"?

sure, there is a chance that the n00b does know more about certain things. but is it possible for the n00b not to?

a freshmen in high school generally knows less than a senior. generally.

I was referring to noobs in general, not myself.

Yes, a senior knows more, but if a senior transfers to a different school he isn't put into freshman classes.

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
if you're saying this behaviour is a charactaristic, in and of itself, of forums, youre dead wrong

Seriously? Maybe I don't understand what you're saying.

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
have you considered the problem might be with who you consider to be 'elitists intellectuals'?

Not sure what you're saying.


Posted by enferno on Jan-27-2007 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
yeah it's quite often i flex my nuts around here..



Posted by Ed G on Jan-27-2007 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Fast Turtle
Look up 'seniority'.


1.The state of being older than another or others or higher in rank than another or others.
2.Precedence of position, especially precedence over others of the same rank by reason of a longer span of service.

Age isn't a factor obviously. Rank only means something if it is earned.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-27-2007 22:08:

So you think you've earned something?


Posted by tubularbills on Jan-27-2007 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Ed G
I was referring to noobs in general, not myself.


well, why do n00bs in general do this then?


Posted by Fast Turtle on Jan-27-2007 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Ed G
1.The state of being older than another or others or higher in rank than another or others.
2.Precedence of position, especially precedence over others of the same rank by reason of a longer span of service.

Age isn't a factor obviously. Rank only means something if it is earned.

Wikipedia:

"More generally, "seniority" can be a description of an individual's experience or length of service, and can thus be used to differentiate between individuals of otherwise equivalent status without placing them in a hierarchy of direct authority. For example, in the United States Senate, the senator from each state with the longer tenure is known as the "senior senator" and carries some additional responsibilities to their state's constituents, but they are not formally dominant (or commanding) in any way over the junior senator (unless, for example, the senior senator is chair of a committee on which the junior senator serves)."

Numerically, the simplest way to express this is with the following formula:
Experience/service = post count + number of days you've been on TA

For instance, you have an experience/service rating of 37. I, on the other hand, have an experience/service rating of about 3082, making me by and far your senior in the magical land of the tranceddict forum.


Posted by Ed G on Jan-27-2007 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Fast Turtle
Wikipedia:

"More generally, "seniority" can be a description of an individual's experience or length of service, and can thus be used to differentiate between individuals of otherwise equivalent status without placing them in a hierarchy of direct authority. For example, in the United States Senate, the senator from each state with the longer tenure is known as the "senior senator" and carries some additional responsibilities to their state's constituents, but they are not formally dominant (or commanding) in any way over the junior senator (unless, for example, the senior senator is chair of a committee on which the junior senator serves)."

Numerically, the simplest way to express this is with the following formula:
Experience/service = post count + number of days you've been on TA

For instance, you have an experience/service rating of 37. I, on the other hand, have an experience/service rating of about 3082, making me by and far your senior in the magical land of the tranceddict forum.

The example of the Senate isn't a good one for our purposes, like the example of high school freshmen and seniors. The problem is that it assumes that a noob to this forum is a noob in general.

Post count has to be the worst way to assign status I can think of. Length of membership is a close second.

tubularbills: Do what?

Sunsnail: What makes you think that?


Posted by SkyHigh on Jan-27-2007 23:20:

How about you automaticaly get the privelege of getting called a noob
when you start a thread like this one. Deal?

Sounds good to me.


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-27-2007 23:26:


Posted by priscilla on Jan-27-2007 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan



LMFAO!!! That's great!!!


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-27-2007 23:49:

newly registered n00bs act differently than newly registered normal people. There are plenty of people that sign up and get along fine. Its the n00bs that don't konw how to act that get served.


Posted by Ed G on Jan-27-2007 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by SkyHigh
How about you automaticaly get the privelege of getting called a noob
when you start a thread like this one. Deal?

Sounds good to me.

That's fine. I'm not really focusing on the labels anyway. I'm simply fascinated by what makes some people feel superior/inferior.

Some of you seem to indicate that the irony of forum status is obvious, while others seem to question the premise completely. It intrigues me.


Posted by hardstyle4life on Jan-28-2007 00:13:

the long time members are mostly dickheads who think they are top shyt!


Posted by Fast Turtle on Jan-28-2007 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle4life
the long time members are mostly dickheads who think they are top shyt!


Mostly 'cause we are pretty hot shit.


Posted by Frenchie on Jan-28-2007 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Fast Turtle
Mostly 'cause we are pretty hot shit.

QFT


Posted by Ian on Jan-28-2007 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle4life
the long time members are mostly dickheads who think they are top shyt!


wb, gimpoid.


Posted by Psy-T on Jan-28-2007 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle4life
the long time members are mostly dickheads who think they are top shyt!


and the short time members are mostly dishonest dickheads who got banned shortly before re-registering.

btw, how is Belgrave at this time of the year?


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-28-2007 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
QFT


stfu noob


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-28-2007 01:08:

When I think long-term member I think early 03 and before...


Posted by Echo of Silence on Jan-28-2007 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
When I think long-term member I think early 03 and before...


I think 2000 and 2001 = old skool.

2002 = almost old skool.

The rest of us are n00bs. Older n00bs are, of course, of more value than newer n00bs.


Posted by Ygrene on Jan-28-2007 01:46:

I'll always be a n00blol and I don't care who knows it!


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