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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer First of all there is no proof of them making any weapons,and even if they are,it would be more for self protection,they ae not gonna go bomb the region.  |
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why are you ok with Israel,Pakistan,India having nukes?you feel like they are safe and will never use it? |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r The fact that they do and haven't doesn't suggest anything to you? They are not what I would call, politically responsible enough given their record in dealing and abiding with the rest of the modern world. |
And thats not all, folks. United States, Britain, France also used nuclear (uranium) based weapons, depleted uranium - very toxic, deadly in high doses isotope of uranium, heavily used by NATO and Americans in bombings of Serbia, Desert Storm.
Wikipedia quotes on depleted uranium
"Depleted uranium (DU) is uranium that has a reduced proportion of the isotope Uranium-235. It is mostly made up of Uranium-238. The names Q-metal, depletalloy, and D-38, which once applied to depleted uranium, have fallen into disuse.
Its high density has made it a valued component in some technical applications, specifically in military projectiles. Such uses remain controversial, as U-238, besides its residual radioactivity, is known from several laboratory studies to be toxic to mammals, especially to the reproductive system and fetus development, causing reduced fertility, miscarriages and fetus malformations."
"In the 1970s, The Pentagon reported that the Soviet military had developed armor plating for Warsaw Pact tanks that NATO ammunition couldn't penetrate. The Pentagon began searching for material to make denser bullets. After testing various metals, ordnance researchers settled on depleted uranium. DU was useful in ammunition not only because of its unique physical properties and effectiveness, but also because it was cheap and readily available. Tungsten, the only other candidate, had to be sourced from China. With DU stockpiles estimated to be more than 500,000 tons, the financial burden of housing this amount of low-level radioactive waste was very apparent. It was therefore more economical to use depleted uranium rather than storing it. Thus, from the late 1970s, the U.S., the Soviet Union, Britain and France, began converting their stockpiles of depleted uranium into kinetic energy penetrators.
Photographic evidence of destroyed equipment suggests that DU was first used during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. Various written reports cite information that was obtained as a consequence of that use.[1]
However, while clearing the decades-old Hawaii Stryker firing range, workers have found chemical weapons from World War I era and depleted uranium ammunition from the 1960s [3].
The U.S. military used DU shells in the 1991 Gulf War and the 2003 Iraq War
Polluted with radiation areas of Iraq:
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| Originally posted by pmoisse Every country (except the US) who has them can proudly proclaim that they've never used them. The US can say that they never used them through the whole cold war, even though things got pretty close on a number of occasions. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r And that's the whole point. Can we honestly say, given Iran's current world defiance, that they would do the same if they were in a state of crisis? They certainly haven't given anyone any reason to trust them, and why should we unless they straighten up and work with the rest of us. |
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| Originally posted by Zild Why can't they have nukes for the same reason other countries have nukes? Deterrence. |
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| Originally posted by Purple Because they are a Muslim nation. |
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid Pakistan is a muslim nation and their people, just as much as the rest of the middle east, hates Americans. Iran can't have a nuke because the leaders eat babies for breakfast and for lunch enjoy the splendor of cutting open a homosexual and staying in awe of someone genetically different being. But really the only reason why the debate is up; is too excuse the American foreign policy. |
awesome...I wonder what they'll do with it?
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| Originally posted by christos awesome...I wonder what they'll do with it? |
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| Originally posted by ScreaminFish Can't wait for their pres to go on tv and say "Our words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!" should be civ 1 but civ2 works just as well i guess |
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| Originally posted by ScreaminFish Can't wait for their pres to go on tv and say "Our words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!" |
Hahaha, classic line from teh best strategy game ever!
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Hahaha, classic line from teh best strategy game ever! |
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| Originally posted by shaolin_Z What's with all the troll spammig lately? |
Yeah, I know ;-) But it was very funny though. The guy's a doll, he plays a lot of video games thats for sure. 
dude, the guys from chicago, dude leave him alone.
Stop trolling MGS.
oma!! You bastard!
just watch. Beats the reading pt.
Whenever a manufactured war will take place; it will only keep that oil in the ground in Iran. Just like in Iraq.
Remember all those oil fields were once property of Standard Oil (through various agreements and memorandums of understanding) and still are, just under new management.
People overlook the fact of just what countries are signatories to the NNPT. It's not Israel (and before I hear that "don't pick on Israel" crap, the only reason {I feel} they don't join the treaty is that they would be in violation of it as soon as they sign.) But understand countries i.e. Jamaica, Belize, Barbados, Fiji, Monaco, Cyprus and the Bahamas are signatories and Israel isn't. Odd that countries for no use for nuclear weapons sign on as well as those with nuclear weapons.
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