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Posted by michaelconway on Feb-17-2007 21:49:

Thanks seppa, yea its kind of a weird question/comment. I was just wondering how knowing theory helps exactly. I know a lil bit of theory, but i don't know if there is more to it exactly. ill be taking a theory class next semster.


Posted by Seppa on Feb-17-2007 22:44:

always happy to help !! and good move, me too I' m going to take classes very soon, I'm going to attend a 3 years course, I really want to start making music for films + It can only help me doing electronic music too. I will give up my occupation for that. But I really want to do it.


Posted by michaelconway on Feb-17-2007 23:28:

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Originally posted by Seppa
always happy to help !! and good move, me too I' m going to take classes very soon, I'm going to attend a 3 years course, I really want to start making music for films + It can only help me doing electronic music too. I will give up my occupation for that. But I really want to do it.


very funny you should say that. I am going to school for post production for movies, and doing the music as well. I would love to move into producing for people, or engeneering even. but thats really hard work. Right I want to produce to push my djing name out there, but lol its funny im not even focused on Djing right now. I am going to start promoting Demo cd's again but man thats a pain in the ass and a full time job takes it out of you.


Posted by Seppa on Feb-19-2007 01:09:

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I am going to start promoting Demo cd's again but man thats a pain in the ass and a full time job takes it out of you.


That's the problem with djing and so forth it doesn't pay up much,we all need to have jobs to earn money and that's not always what we really want to do. that's how I figured I might as well learn music properly and make music for film and adverts, there's much money there + I think it's really interesting. This way you earn doing what you really love.


Posted by System101 on Feb-19-2007 06:20:

You could only learn so much by using the trial and error method..i know cuz I�ve been using this method for almost 7-8 years now..i actually learned a lot just by trying out new ideas and also by trying out different styles of music learning how melodies work In each one and combining those ideas..but the bottom line is if you wanna fully understand it you need to go to school and take courses..


Posted by mysticalninja on Feb-19-2007 08:13:

You think if you went to school you would suddenly be able to make the choon of your dreams? No. It's all about practice, and making sure you never stop learning and improving.


Posted by ASFSE on Feb-19-2007 09:05:

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Originally posted by mysticalninja
You think if you went to school you would suddenly be able to make the choon of your dreams? No. It's all about practice, and making sure you never stop learning and improving.


i agree with you, but i think he is talking about harmony and theory, which you really learn best from a private music instructor or a school.

a private music instructor that has good credentials n shit is just as good, if not better( and maybe cheaper), than going to a school to learn theory and harmony.


Posted by Seppa on Feb-19-2007 13:01:

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You think if you went to school you would suddenly be able to make the choon of your dreams? No. It's all about practice, and making sure you never stop learning and improving.


I don't think so I just feel it is good to do it now, so I can add this to my current knowledge of music. I did not start producing yesterday and I'm happy with what I do. But it doesn't pay up much. I love films and ultimatly I'd love to make music for films. But I'm not naive , I'll probably start making music for commercials first, It's less prestigious but we got to start somewhere right.


Posted by Derivative on Feb-19-2007 13:41:

I agree with something ninjaman wrote! Only kidding.

Its good advice. There are no real rules and the formalities are there to be broken. I guess it doesn't matter so long as you are constantly learning new things.

And yeah, if your heart isn't in it, it almost doesn't matter how much training and schooling you have in production and scoring music.

I did 7 years of English Literature and it cost be about 25 grand. At the end of it I began to realise I was a pretty bad academic, a poor writer and a blag artist. I think I have potential to be a better producer than a writer mainly because I actually give a shit about what I'm doing. I'm not a better producer than a writer at this moment in time but I've only been doing this jig for 2.5 years.

Once the interest is there I really think its a matter of time, patience and perserverance. Everything just falls in to place. Slowly. Stick with it, make sure you are always learning new things and you'll get there eventually.

If you can afford lessons then seriously - go for it. I would do it if I had the money. But you better make sure you are doing the learning because you want to, otherwise my advice to you is that you are wasting your time and money. Your tutor will pick up on it too if you are slack. Reminds me of A Level maths tuition - All those lessons and I still got an E.


Posted by Seppa on Feb-20-2007 00:46:

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I think I have potential to be a better producer than a writer mainly because I actually give a shit about what I'm doing

I do Agree with you 100% !!!! If your heart is not in it your can try and try unless you are gifted its not gonna happen. fortunaly for me I love music with all my heart. And I won't give up until I do what I want to do. I've been caught up in my lazyness for quite sometime, but its over. I actually started doing what i didn't like a Year ago ( sound desining) and the outcome was and is very rewarding, now I got into learning theory through the internet and again it s rewarding, so I want to push it and push it always more. That 's the way to go at least for me. from one track to another I need to see a real improvement. Even if the new stuff is not always the best cause sometime i get too technical,it sounds good but where is the soul. It s not happening often though. Well I think I'm starting to get boring I better shut up .

cheers you guys !


Posted by Seppa on Feb-20-2007 00:50:

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Reminds me of A Level maths tuition - All those lessons and I still got an E.


lol! entertaining anecdote !


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