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Originally posted by TwistedDUO Sounds like you're probably be more interested in the darker sounds of psy. Like you, I'm a rocker (more punk rock than metal, though). So I tend to gyrate towards guitar riffs and pummelling beats. 1200 Mics and Logic Bomb are good for this sorta sound. Juno Reactor is a must if you like these sounds. Also try Psyside, Psysex, S.U.N. Project, Goa Gil, and Ghreg on Earth.

1200 mics is probably the cheesiest psytrance out there. it's not even the slightest dark. it's just cool if you are out for cheesy guitar riffs.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 1200 mics is probably the cheesiest psytrance out there. it's not even the slightest dark. it's just cool if you are out for cheesy guitar riffs.

Sometimes, I like cheesy guitar riffs, though. Like I said, I'm a rocker. And in all honesty, the tracks play well for the dancefloor, too. I can't argue with that. I've played many crowds where I try to crank out some darker, more hard-edged stuff and they just don't get it. Then out come Acid for Nothing, and it's on like frenzy.

The guy doesn't even know what he likes yet, and I'm certain (like many do) he'll move past the 1200 Mics phase. Just as the full-on kids move past the Infected Mushroom/Astral Projection phase. It's just fun music. I mean seriously, why does psytrance have to be broody? All genres have thier anthems, and they get the floor moving.

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Originally posted by TwistedDUO move past the Infected Mushroom/Astral Projection phase.

What is that supposed to mean?

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Originally posted by SMC What is that supposed to mean?

I'm saying that these two groups are usually the gateway drug into psytrance. Yes, the indeed rock. No doubt about that, but often new psytrancers come in thinking that all psytrance is like this. Much like with other styles of trance when people get past the Oakenfold/PvD/Tiesto phase when they realize that there is more out there than that. I'm (by far) discrediting IM or AP, they by all means of the word, ROCK!!! The live shows are even more phenomenal. But like I said above, they're usually the gateway drug into psytrance.

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Originally posted by TwistedDUO Sometimes, I like cheesy guitar riffs, though. Like I said, I'm a rocker. And in all honesty, the tracks play well for the dancefloor, too. I can't argue with that. I've played many crowds where I try to crank out some darker, more hard-edged stuff and they just don't get it. Then out come Acid for Nothing, and it's on like frenzy. The guy doesn't even know what he likes yet, and I'm certain (like many do) he'll move past the 1200 Mics phase. Just as the full-on kids move past the Infected Mushroom/Astral Projection phase. It's just fun music. I mean seriously, why does psytrance have to be broody? All genres have thier anthems, and they get the floor moving.

i know i know but i was just questioning the fact that you wrote that it was dark psy.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 i know i know but i was just questioning the fact that you wrote that it was dark psy.

To be honest I try not to conform to the sub-categorizing of psytrance. It's such a diversely produced genre in it's own right and to sub-categorize really doesn't do it much justice. For me what qualifies "dark" is that chooga-chooga rolling bassline.

some of my fav's

Kindzadza (massive love for the russians)
lemurians
dark nebula (c'mon aussie c'mon c'mon)
S Range
Grapes of Wrath
seroxat
Parasense
Psykovsky
Tristan
Green Nuns of the Revolution
Alien Project

For someone who is into really out there, abstract and spiritual type stuff..I just haven't found psy-trance appealing. The scene itself would definitely appeal to me, but the music itself..it just doesn't speak to me in anyway. It's good for dancing, but beyond that....don't find it enjoyable. It's something i've considered getting into, esp after watching some videos from various psy-festivals and seeing that it has quite a following. I guess I prefer more "deep" and "progressive" sound, so prog-psy is something I think I should consider. Bass and effects, and lots of it, is just not what I look for.

I guess I prefer a more "organic" sound. "Iboga" and "Digital Structures" are labels that seem to have some good music on them, but I still prefer the music released on "Tilth" and "Toes In The Sand"...melodic progressive house. I prefer melodic epic and progressive trance vs. psy trance. You know this. But as far as a genre for dancing, definitely psy trance would be a good choice, and the scene itself would appeal to me, vs the trendy and sometimes snobby attitude of the club scene (I'm not trying to generalize, it just appears this way to me, esp in the US).

Is the idea behind "psy-trance" music really..the music as more of a guide rather than the forefront? It seems that way...cause of the idea of getting into a trance, and in that case...the melodic or harmonic aspect doesn't sound (usually) as important as the beat/percussion/bass and effects. I mean i'm not saying this is right, it's just what I observe..but I would like those who are really into this music to give me some insight into this, thanks.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 1200 mics is probably the cheesiest psytrance out there. it's not even the slightest dark. it's just cool if you are out for cheesy guitar riffs.

I find the overuse of guitar riffs annoying, they all sound the same in most psy tracks.

it's true that psytrance tries to be more "serious" when it comes to the trance aspect. The spiritual and out of the body scenarios are often refered to. The music is also shaped in that way however in recent years a more and more commercial twist have gained alot of ground within psytrance as well with artists such as Astrix, Skazi and Infected Mushroom.
However not all israelis are falling into the commercial full on trap. Sound Field is one of the groups that tries to blend in progressive sounds into his production and some melodic making it a lovely mix.
sample

I've been listening to the latest release by these guys:

Synsyn (@ http://www.synsun.info/) - you can download a set from their site..

Pretty good stuff.

Living in Cape Town South Africa am pretty spoilt for choice with Psytrance (have been teasing BlackVortex of late )..

Labels of note are:

• Nano
  
• Alien Safari
  
• Timecode
  
• Altered States
  
• Alchemy
  

The Overlords - Sundown (Ionizer remix)

Etnica - Chemical Trance

+ older man with no name tracks...

Some of my favorites are:
MFG
California Sunshine
Chi A.D.
Etnica
Pleiadians
Hallucinogen
Miranda
Prana
Total Eclipse
Transwave and a lot more but I am tired so thats enough I think

I'm going to emphasize Man With No Name, Doof, Juno Reactor and Hallucinogen. But one duo I've not seen mentioned so far is X-Dream.

Aaaaaah.....psytrance!

Now we're talking my language! I'm a bit of a self-proclaimed psy/Goa collector, definitely with a soft spot for the Goa sound. Psy and Goa are so widely varied in their styles that one of the posters was correct: your musical tastes and background will make a big difference in what appeals to you in the genre.

Following are some of my recommendations. For most, if not all, you can listen to music samples ranging from 2 to 4 minutes at www.saikosounds.com. That's where I do a fair bit of research before buying anything. These samples should give you a fairly rough idea of some of the stuff floating around out there to see if any of it piques your interest. What I am not familiar with is the darker, techier and more minimal styles.

Goa: circa 1994 - 1998
V/A - Distance to Goa Volume 4
V/A - Tantrance 6
Doof - Let's Turn On
Green Nuns of the Revolution - Rock Bitch Mafia
Hallucinogen - Twisted
Hallucinogen - The Lone Deranger
Pleiadians - Identified Flying Objects
Prana - Cyclone
Transwave - Helium
X-Dream - We Created Our Own Happiness

Nu-skool Goa: Goa renaissance (hahaha...I couldn't resist)
V/A - Apsara
V/A - Twist Dreams
Khetzal - Corolle
Ka-Sol - Fairytale

Psytrance
OOOD - Free Range
Voice of Cod - We Are Free
Atma - Between Good and Evil
Derango - Tumult

Progressive
Frogacult - Something for Sundays

Mid - downtempo
Younger Brother - A Flock of Bleeps
Ott - Blumenkraft
Shpongle - Are You Shpongled (the best trip music of all time)

The best thing to do if you are interested in quality psy is to start poking around sites like psynews.org or isratrance.com and reading the reviews section. Just like any genre of electronic music, you have to sift through a lot of crap to find some incredible gems.

Edit: commentary and spelling corrections

Re: Aaaaaah.....psytrance!

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Originally posted by vancbc Suntrip Records: goa renaissance V/A - Apsara V/A - Twist Dreams Khetzal - Corolle Ka-Sol - Fairytale Filteria - Sky Input Filteria - Heliopolis

Fixed.

This is a question for the people who know about this stuff, would you consider Cyber Cartel Psy/Goa?

Re: Re: Aaaaaah.....psytrance!

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Originally posted by SMC Fixed.

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I dunno man, I dunno! I own Sky Input, and it's just a bit too crazy and insane for me to consider it a classic. Although musically very different, it reminds me of old KoxBox. It's not easy to trance out on this music. Just when you think you've found a melody and a groove to trip into trance, it abruptly changes. No cohesive melody emerges that ties a track together. You catch bits and pieces here and there, but then they drift off and are lost.

While I highly respect the artist and what's he's doing, especially in conjunction with Suntrip Records, much of Sky Input sounds like random noise to me. I want to get it, I really do, but I just can't make sense of all the chaos in the music.

That said, I do enjoy Filteria on Apsara and am really excited to see what Jannis will do with the K.O.B. project. His website has some promising samples.

However, that's not going to stop me from buying Heliopolis because I'm such a strong supporter of the 'Goa renaissance' and what Suntrip Records is doing.

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Originally posted by SkooB_E This is a question for the people who know about this stuff, would you consider Cyber Cartel Psy/Goa?

Psytrance; definitely not Goa. It's got that earlier 'full-on' signature style with melodies and sounds that still have that rawer and more organic feel than modern production. Although I'm not generally into most full-on, this could cause a bit of fun mayhem on the dancefloor.

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Originally posted by narcism some of my fav's Kindzadza (massive love for the russians) lemurians dark nebula (c'mon aussie c'mon c'mon) S Range Grapes of Wrath seroxat Parasense Psykovsky Tristan Green Nuns of the Revolution Alien Project

i u

dont know if these have been posted yet ...


dna
XI
psysex
eskimo
dynamic
intellabeam
pleadaliens
domestic
x-noize


woooooooooooooooo.

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Originally posted by Taranis Used to be a pretty big metalhead, everything from heavy/black/death/symphonic/gothic/folk/industrial etc etc.

Then start by checking out Tim Schuldt and Four Carry Nuts. That should be a nice transition for you. Then you can refer to the rest of my list (some of whom have already been listed, but this should help improve the signal to noise ratio (Skazi?? Eskimo???)).

Hallucinogen
Pleiadians/Etnica/Crop Circles
Cosmosis
Oforia/Pigs In Space
Space Cat
Electric Universe
Astral Projection
Total Eclipse
Blue Planet Corporation
Chi-A.D.
Filteria
Green Nuns
Khetzal
Koxbox
Prometheus
Man With No Name
Slinky Wizard
Transwave
Doof

Then for your more progressive tastes there are:
Son Kite
Human Blue
Tegma
Vibrasphere
Ticon
Atmos

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Originally posted by superglo i u

lets get married

i just heard Jay Selway's remix of J00F - Rasa Lila and its pretty awsome

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