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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Very rarely is somebody's opinion on music "wrong", but I think you've come pretty damn close.

Sorry. I used to love him/them. I grew out of it, and realized there wasn't anything there. We all make it out of our teens someday.

sorry to bump this, but:

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous The lyrics have always sucked...

from the top of my head:

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I'd listen to the words he'd say but in his voice I heard decay the plastic face forced to portray all the insides left cold and gray there is a place that still remains it eats the fear it eats the pain the sweetest price he'll have to pay the day the whole world went away

i think these are pretty awsome

let me rephrase my comment. The most straight-forward of any music out there? No (pop music takes the cake). Some of the most straight-forward within the realm of stuff that's considered (by any significant number of people) to be 'deep,' yes, IMO. They all require, at most, one link to the actual meaning. There's one level of decoding to do to figure out any of them, and they all harp on the same concepts, repeatedly, and with little breadth of perspective, focusing on self-indulgent pity & other unproductive emotions.

Who cares? He looks hot as fuck in that studio with all that equipment. Let's talk about that instead.

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/cartoon021.htm

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous They all require, at most, one link to the actual meaning. There's one level of decoding to do to figure out any of them, and they all harp on the same concepts, repeatedly, and with little breadth of perspective, focusing on self-indulgent pity & other unproductive emotions.

true, totally agree.
hes definitely no maynard but his lyrics dont suck...who says lyrics have to be hard to decode, or ambiguous in order not to suck? nothing wrong with straight-forward lyrics as long as theyre good imo

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous let me rephrase my comment. The most straight-forward of any music out there? No (pop music takes the cake). Some of the most straight-forward within the realm of stuff that's considered (by any significant number of people) to be 'deep,' yes, IMO. They all require, at most, one link to the actual meaning. There's one level of decoding to do to figure out any of them, and they all harp on the same concepts, repeatedly, and with little breadth of perspective, focusing on self-indulgent pity & other unproductive emotions.

Well, since you seem to have some deep, profound knowledge, what do you think he should write about? Since what he writes about now is obviously too juvenile for you. NIN songs are not meant to reach out to everyone. Think about that.

And, how can you beat a guy who recorded an album (The Downward Spiral) in Sharon Tate's house? He also has the door from the house that had "pig" written on it in Nothing Studios

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC Well, since you seem to have some deep, profound knowledge, what do you think he should write about? Since what he writes about now is obviously too juvenile for you. NIN songs are not meant to reach out to everyone. Think about that. And, how can you beat a guy who recorded an album (The Downward Spiral) in Sharon Tate's house? He also has the door from the house that had "pig" written on it in Nothing Studios

yeah, he must be good, then.

I never said TDS was bad. In fact, I like it [gasp], and I never said lyrics have to be deep or profound, but it's just silly to hear people go on about how genius they are, when there's nothing in them. Lyrics can be shitty, but just accept that they are. What should he write about? Whatever he wants. I don't have to praise him for it, though.

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Originally posted by ZuLi nothing wrong with straight-forward lyrics as long as theyre good imo

well, I used to love NIN, as well, but then I grew out of it, and the lyrics were part of it. Sure, it's fun to vent for a while, but after you sort things out, hearing somebody who's been bent on the same immature 'me vs. the world' idea for almost 2 decades is tiresome and uninteresting.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous yeah, he must be good, then. I never said TDS was bad. In fact, I like it [gasp], and I never said lyrics have to be deep or profound, but it's just silly to hear people go on about how genius they are, when there's nothing in them. Lyrics can be shitty, but just accept that they are. What should he write about? Whatever he wants. I don't have to praise him for it, though.

I dont mean that thats what makes him good, i just wish i had done it. And if he can write about whatever he wants, let him. And let the people who want to listen to it do so. You dont have to praise him, but you dont have to talk shit either.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous yeah, he must be good, then. I never said TDS was bad. In fact, I like it [gasp], and I never said lyrics have to be deep or profound, but it's just silly to hear people go on about how genius they are, when there's nothing in them. Lyrics can be shitty, but just accept that they are. What should he write about? Whatever he wants. I don't have to praise him for it, though.

I dont mean that thats what makes him good, i just wish i had done it. And if he can write about whatever he wants, let him. And let the people who want to listen to it do so. You dont have to praise him, but you dont have to talk shit either.

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC I dont mean that thats what makes him good, i just wish i had done it. And if he can write about whatever he wants, let him. And let the people who want to listen to it do so. You dont have to praise him, but you dont have to talk shit either.

...but I can. Nevertheless, you're right.

My brothers a NIN addict, and hes done everything but have a signed legal document from Trent saying "I leaked everything." to prove it.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous well, I used to love NIN, as well, but then I grew out of it, and the lyrics were part of it. Sure, it's fun to vent for a while, but after you sort things out, hearing somebody who's been bent on the same immature 'me vs. the world' idea for almost 2 decades is tiresome and uninteresting.

That's what is changing about this new album.

Go check out the website - it's very, very political.

I agree that you simply can't make the same interesting music over and over for a long time without it becoming dull - and for the record, I don't think Trent is really a genius. He is, however, a great testament to the fact that an artist is only as creative as his influences and I do hold him in high regard for his work on a lot of the industrial scene, despite the fact that he is not a 'pioneer' in any sort of the word.

I will, however, be very disappointed if this new album sucks but still manages to sell better then Skinny Puppy's last two. They have been political as hell and if Trent manages to steal another damn grammy after imitating their sound, it will really hurt my image of him.

I'd actually rather have him whine about not being wanted than to try & make political statements, the nature of which people far more intelligent and informed than he have already made, outside of the limiting constraints of song lyrics. But to each his own...

the pics of his studio

bad ass

http://www.hollywoodinmemoriam.org/

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Go check out the website - it's very, very political.

We need Uncle Al to fire up the Ministry war wagon again for some poke in the eye of US politics.
I'll buy the new NIN album regardless, seem to have ended up with everything else he ever wrote

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Originally posted by Lilith We need Uncle Al to fire up the Ministry war wagon again for some poke in the eye of US politics.

You'd swear that US politics do a good enough job on that all by itself...

But I suppose the government has many eyes.

Needs a good old fashioned boot in it's brown one then.

All these leaks keep making this album better and better. Really cant wait till tomorrow, Beside You In Time DVD. WHOOP WHOOP!

"In this twilight" is too fkn good

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Originally posted by The_One "In this twilight" is too fkn good

+1


Thats what the people that heard it from The Spiral said it was supposidly the worst of the album. Lets hope it gets better and better!

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Originally posted by jupiterone +1 Thats what the people that heard it from The Spiral said it was supposidly the worst of the album. Lets hope it gets better and better!

I think its the perfect swan song for the entire album. I love the direction this album is going. I cant wait to hear the rest of it!

some posts in this thread make me want to vomit. you know who you are.

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