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I believe this is Push played completely live on keyboards and such

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looks fun

underworld and hybird both do live shit and watching either live is amazing. btw nice vid of push

drummer is faking it.. and i don't even think that jp8000 is plugged in lmfao.

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Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ underworld and hybird both do live shit and watching either live is amazing. btw nice vid of push

Yea, I've seen hybrid live too, amazing
Or Kosheen for that matter, pretty nice too.
Don't forget Faithless . I've only seen them on tv though .

Thing is, in general, it's the mostly talented artists that do live shows. And I consider mixing tracks in one to another less of an art than a liveshow. Especially in EDM if it has to be as tight mixed together as some of you mentioned (which I just don't agree with). If it should be performed to perfection and is done that way then than that's just really really impressive instead of a bad thing.

DJ-ing wasn't for 40.000 people either before the sensation parties at the Amsterdam Arena. Get moving and get on to 2007 .

I also tend to have a feeling not many of you have actually been to any EDM live acts... The live shows I've been too where far more impressive than any dj-only party I've been to.

It's amazing do see that pioneer cdj100 above Push' JP though I'd have to agree on this act probably being a load of crap

Speaking of Kosheen, I saw them play live and acoustic(as in with a couple of acoustic guitars, remember them?) with I think less than a hundred people and it was pretty amazing. So thats another option, EDM transferred to acoustic/ traditional electric instruments

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Originally posted by mysticalninja Rap started out with DJ's and EmCee's ... beats were never made live. Show me one video of someone playing their MPC live at a concert with an EmCee or any other sampler.. The music was played by DJ's.. just like trance.

The rapping wasn't music, and not perfomed live? The DJs didn't perform live rhythmic and timbral alterations in the music that they were playing? Yes, before there was actual rapping (as opposed to MCing), calling it live music was not fully correct, but that was not rap, it was reggae, or some variant thereof. Rap proper is by definition live music.

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And I'm glad they have.. my biggest problem with trance is the slow ass boring transitions all the djs make inbetween songs. Fills most mixes up with like 50% crap.

Then go listen to techno. You don't want to listen to trance.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja trace isn't meant to be played live >:O its a genre of perfection and arps and computer precision imo.

true...but still:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfNJ3YiUQmU

i saw infected mushroom at a party of maybe 200people doing live act and wow it really is amazing watching a few guys bang out some massive fucken tracks live even tho yes some of is probly recorded as in midi sequences going to various things to make it so you dont have to be fucken ghanesh with 8 fucken arms

Actually, I've always wondered about the Chemical Brothers. they seem to be either almost 100% sequenced (ie maybe add something over the top here or there) or it's just off a CD or similar. On their 93 - 03 DVD live shows, one stands around jumping up and down and putting hands up (in the air style), the other stands at the mixer seemingly playing with EQ, all on a stage with about 15+ synths. I read in an interview they make some beats up during soundcheck and use them in the show, but they rarely seem to be doing much. Never seen them in the flesh tho.

By the way, I thought Kosheen were more of a band than an electronic act, in that they crossed over to electronic? Hence the accoustic guitars. Could be wrong.

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Originally posted by skot_e By the way, I thought Kosheen were more of a band than an electronic act, in that they crossed over to electronic? Hence the accoustic guitars. Could be wrong.

I dunno about that, isn't the band just sian and 2 DJs? Sian seems to have a more traditional background, but the other two I think just DJ...

Yeah maybe, like i said I could be wrong. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else...

Tiesto's live acts are probably the most important in our time. He is truly a great. A living virtuoso of electronic. A powerhouse of the modern era. He knows how to add more analogue to his beats. The amount of analogue he uses makes my heart stop.

Look at this genius: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb4DWBpFmWo

The girls face at 1:00 is priceless.... "why... why..."

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Originally posted by verdonsky Tiesto's live acts are probably the most important in our time. He is truly a great. A living virtuoso of electronic. A powerhouse of the modern era. He knows how to add more analogue to his beats. The amount of analogue he uses makes my heart stop. Look at this genius: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb4DWBpFmWo

Many errors there...

Tiesto's sound engineers are probably the most important in our time. they are truly a great. Living virtuoso of electronic. They are the powerhouse of the modern era. Tiesto doesn't, but his engineers do know how to add more analogue to his beats. The amount of analogue they use makes my heart stop.

Apart from those errors Tiesto is not a really live act. Mostly just a dj. really late edit: Allthough he does have some live elements in his shows with guest singers etc.

Guisseppe Ottianni isn't a live act. Just pretends to be one.

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10 min into the video isnt live at all

That bashing on the keys at around 13:30 looks pretty convincing in the J.Gielen vid

I don't perform, but I think playing stuff live sounds better than programming it to play. Especially if you've been stuffing around with the velocity. (filter ammount and such) Though, you have to be very good at it to make it sound good. And if you're going to perform a trance track 100% live, you'd need a lot of guys to play all the instruments. Well, that depends on how many instruments there are in the track.

But I'm all for live. It's always been my cup of tea. I wish more artist could play live.

Here's some quick shit I did.

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Off course, the bass and such isn't live. But the leads are.

In "Synaesthesia 2004" the JP thing in the background is live. The lead is live, the.. "alarm lead" thing at the start is live. :P

In Virus test2 stabs which you can barely hear is live.

It's all so horrible and off. x] It's fun, though. And I guess I could become better by doing some practice.

Ok, we just know that is possible make true Live Acts with synths, vocals and much more... I really consider that the problem is the money to spend and/or the knowledge... We need to know the right scheme! Must be like a studio on PA or you will lose the dynamics! Right? So how to eq, compress, ad fx and mastering all the sound that comes from the equipments in real time?

For vocals (if wanted) now the TC Electronics released a machine that fix all the live vocals issues with studio precision.
look: http://www.tc-helicon.com/VoiceLive

But the rest of instruments (synths)?
And the mastering?
Maybe a pro fx mixer only?
Or need more hardware audio processors in he end of line?

Look at this Nu-NRG video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12eaBqSkFg

The guy on Supernova 2 is really playing the pad or just faking it? If yes (is perfectly possible,) how to make that compression live? Seems to be sidechain, look that the pad deep compression start before the kick goes on..

Any idea of a mixer? audio processors? Maybe a mixer with fx.. We need to start a new level of discussion here, cause we just know that is possible make live things.. Any idea of a cheap scheme will be apreciated.

sorry my poor english..

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The guy on Supernova 2 is really playing the pad or just faking it? If yes (is perfectly possible,) how to make that compression live? Seems to be sidechain, look that the pad deep compression start before the kick goes on..

Use a synced volume LFO.

haha that NU NRG video rox, it dosnt sound live though because when the next track comes in it just sounds beat matched like any other set, but then if it isnt live it would make what they are doing on stage really stupid lol.

I'de love someone to prove me wrong though because I think all trance should be made live, it would be that much more amazing.

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Originally posted by daeus haha that NU NRG video rox, it dosnt sound live though because when the next track comes in it just sounds beat matched like any other set, but then if it isnt live it would make what they are doing on stage really stupid lol. I'de love someone to prove me wrong though because I think all trance should be made live, it would be that much more amazing.

Well that's because the pc's running some loops on ableton are synced, he could switch from the left to the right pc like a dj. Using eq and the volume faders on a small mixing panel, on top of that he had individual instruments which he could play live & control live . I was there when he had his live show in the Netherlands, I performed on the same party .

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