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Originally posted by nchs09 but its a school, they have to tailor it for it to be effective to everyone, not just 1 person.

Yeah, but if they let you have things like head phones on, other people can't hear it and it all ends up ok. I think more people work better with some kind of music them without music. Alot of things about the school system don't work for other people. I think some aspects are better for visual learners, and others are better for auditory, so yeah it's not exactly perfect in the first place.

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Originally posted by shiny one Yeah, but if they let you have things like head phones on, other people can't hear it and it all ends up ok. I think more people work better with some kind of music them without music. Alot of things about the school system don't work for other people. I think some aspects are better for visual learners, and others are better for auditory, so yeah it's not exactly perfect in the first place.

you can def hear headphones..... not only that but what about class participation... id be a pain for the teafher to ask everyone to put away their ipods...

wait till you get to college, then u can do whatever you want in class. even go drunk, high, tripping, sleeping, listneing to music, eating a burger, in pj's or dead.

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Originally posted by nchs09 you can def hear headphones..... not only that but what about class participation... id be a pain for the teafher to ask everyone to put away their ipods... wait till you get to college, then u can do whatever you want in class. even go drunk, high, tripping, sleeping, listneing to music, eating a burger, in pj's or dead.

Yeah, I've heard that college kicks somer serious ass. I guess even if I get alot of homework, it wont be as bad if it's alot more fun.

now... what have you learned from this kids?

study and do your homework or you get pwned by TA

in high school I've never had to do homework (except for maths where it was dangerous, because I almost have failed in it a few times...almost!!!)

but in English for example...the teacher started giving little marks for homeworks...once you got 5 she gave you an E for homeworks and counted it for your final mark.

Once she realized, she won't force me to do homeworks anyway, she stopped this system.

Muchly the same in german lessons, Literature lessons and many others including basics of law etc.

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Originally posted by shiny one Well, I think this is just my personality, but I don't really like sitting still for long if I'm not doing anything fun, like taking a test of listening to something a teacher is saying. I can sit still for alot longer if I'm listening to music or something and it helps me stay concentrated, so it kind of keeps me on task and I work better that way.

soooooooooo basically you're every kid in high school ever?
learn to do it without music, so you can do it with or without
if you rely on it and claim you work better with it, its a crutch, nothing more.

Nah, it just keeps me occupied. I can work fine without it, but just not for quite as long I don't think.

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Originally posted by shiny one Actually, I'm really good at multi tasking.

No one is better at multi-tasking than doing one thing. Period.

As for college, yeah, you can go to class however the hell you want. Then again, you have 500X the amount of work to do. Get used to doing some now, or you'll be screwed.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous No one is better at multi-tasking than doing one thing. Period. As for college, yeah, you can go to class however the hell you want. Then again, you have 500X the amount of work to do. Get used to doing some now, or you'll be screwed.

Lol, thanks for not being an asshole about it like alot of people were, but I'm already kind of iffy about college just because of all the work you wuold have to do. I really want to get a degree but I haven't really ever been big on doing alot of homework. If it's fun homework (creative writing or things that arent too repetetive) I'm fine with it, but if it's just the same thing over and over and over like busy work, then it drives me crazy.

i'd say try now to work and study without music or anything because later when u'll get a job what is it's forbidden at ur job's place to listen music or whatever?

it will be harder for u to take the habit to concentrate for a long time or focuse more intensely

then about subjects like history or geography or philosophy all these subjects help you getting a general knowledge about things ....so it might not interest you a lot but just remenber these things u are learning in HS are the basics stuffs which will be useful for your further education


good luck

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Originally posted by shiny one Lol, thanks for not being an asshole about it like alot of people were, but I'm already kind of iffy about college just because of all the work you wuold have to do. I really want to get a degree but I haven't really ever been big on doing alot of homework. If it's fun homework (creative writing or things that arent too repetetive) I'm fine with it, but if it's just the same thing over and over and over like busy work, then it drives me crazy.

The busy work goes from about 90% of your homework to about 10%. Say goodbye to worksheets forever.

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice i'd say try now to work and study without music or anything because later when u'll get a job what is it's forbidden at ur job's place to listen music or whatever? it will be harder for u to take the habit to concentrate for a long time or focuse more intensely then about subjects like history or geography or philosophy all these subjects help you getting a general knowledge about things ....so it might not interest you a lot but just remenber these things u are learning in HS are the basics stuffs which will be useful for your further education good luck

Thanks. When I grow up, I want to work for a small company that will hopefully atleast let me listen to music when I work. I want to do something having to do with comps, and I just dont see where I would use history in that, though. I guess I'm not sure if I really have a problem with history, or just the fact that too many of the teachers seem to be boring lol. Like I said before, I can work fine without music, I guess it just helps me stay concentrated for longer spans of time, because I'm not so good at staying on task if I'm tired or really really really bored.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous The busy work goes from about 90% of your homework to about 10%. Say goodbye to worksheets forever.

yup

but still, i feel strongly about not listening to music while you do homework
i used to do the same thing actually, and the times where i wouldn't have music around it took me a lot longer
its a pain in the ass, but its worth it to do it without music

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous The busy work goes from about 90% of your homework to about 10%. Say goodbye to worksheets forever.

Nice. I guess I just can't stand the fact that I could be doing work that will either help my grade, or get me ahead so I don't have to do homework later. Most of my teachers are good about not giving busy work now, but earlier this year I had one who would make us just work nonstop, which kind of drove me crazy lol.

Fuck your teacher and pass.

done.

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Originally posted by mezzir yup but still, i feel strongly about not listening to music while you do homework i used to do the same thing actually, and the times where i wouldn't have music around it took me a lot longer its a pain in the ass, but its worth it to do it without music

Do you think it's easyer to pick things up and kind of drill them into your head if you focus on just the work instead of the song? Because that probably makes sence, it's just that too much work drives me crazy lol.

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Originally posted by shiny one I want to do something having to do with comps, and I just dont see where I would use history in that, though.

another reason why college > high school. You study whatever the fk you want to. Your classes are either completely chosen by you or required ones for your major. Either way, it's stuff you want to be studying. You've got a certain number of credits to get fulfill the requirements for your major (in your case, something computer-related), and all of those are variations of what you'll be doing (all computer-related). Then, you have about the other 30-40% of credits for whatever you want to do. If you want to take business classes, science, music, whatever--up to you, and you pick them. So yeah, no more classes you're not interested in. There'll still be ones you don't like, especially for your major, because, say, in business, I'd never want to be an accountant, but I still have to take the class--but I'd much rather be doing that than be painting something.

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Originally posted by shiny one Lol, let's not start a big flame war here.

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Originally posted by shiny one By the way, you grow the fuck up and stop trying to start fights with people over the internet.

Lol

Ok but seriously, if you want to do things your own way, that's no problem. I agree with the overall concept of what you're saying, however your reasoning exposes a slight sense of immaturity imo. If you feel that school is not your thing, drop out. Get a job (you'll probably need more than one if you start at minimum wage and you're living on your own) and start climbing up the corporate ladder. Learn to budget, file taxes, invest and make sure to keep your eyes open for financial opportunities. The most successful people I know have never put all their eggs in one basket. Keep in mind all living expenses and live below your means. Sounds easy? For some it is, try it.

Turning in a 5 page paper about the social impacts of the Romanticist literary movement might seem like a useless activity and waste of time, part of some grand scheme the "system" is trying to trap you in. Remember, mature people know that in order to get what you want and to succeed, you sometimes need to do things you dislike.

School is not the answer to financial success. I started my own business when I was 18, right out of high school. But I also have a regular job (which pays my living expenses) and attend college. I make more money in my business than I do in my job, but I want to save and invest. So do you think going to college at this stage is a waste of time? Possibly so, but the fact that I have a plan B offers me security for that "just in case" scenario. Just find what you want to do and be uncompromisingly hardworking.

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Originally posted by kadomony Fuck your teacher and pass. done.

Yeah, I pass my classes and stuff now. I used to do pretty bad in school, but now I kind of have my act together. It's just hard to pass if your teacher is some boring drill sargent who gives you busy work to do all class and screams at you if you stand up to stretch your legs.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous another reason why college > high school. You study whatever the fk you want to. Your classes are either completely chosen by you or required ones for your major. Either way, it's stuff you want to be studying. You've got a certain number of credits to get fulfill the requirements for your major (in your case, something computer-related), and all of those are variations of what you'll be doing (all computer-related). Then, you have about the other 30-40% of credits for whatever you want to do. If you want to take business classes, science, music, whatever--up to you, and you pick them. So yeah, no more classes you're not interested in. There'll still be ones you don't like, especially for your major, because, say, in business, I'd never want to be an accountant, but I still have to take the class--but I'd much rather be doing that than be painting something.

Good points. That's basically what my dad said also. He told me after the first year of college, his classes had to do a lot more with the actual major. I guess life is full of things you don't like, and if you get them out of the way you can just enjoy what you do like. Thanks for the help. By the way, I'll probably enjoy the homework in college if it's something fun like writing a program (that's not too structured) or designing a website, because I like more of the hands on kind of stuff.

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Originally posted by Faj27 Lol Ok but seriously, if you want to do things your own way, that's no problem. I agree with the overall concept of what you're saying, however your reasoning exposes a slight sense of immaturity imo. If you feel that school is not your thing, drop out. Get a job (you'll probably need more than one if you start at minimum wage and you're living on your own) and start climbing up the corporate ladder. Learn to budget, file taxes, invest and make sure to keep your eyes open for financial opportunities. The most successful people I know have never put all their eggs in one basket. Keep in mind all living expenses and live below your means. Sounds easy? For some it is, try it. Turning in a 5 page paper about the social impacts of the Romanticist literary movement might seem like a useless activity and waste of time, part of some grand scheme the "system" is trying to trap you in. Remember, mature people know that in order to get what you want and to succeed, you sometimes need to do things you dislike. School is not the answer to financial success. I started my own business when I was 18, right out of high school. But I also have a regular job (which pays my living expenses) and attend college. I make more money in my business than I do in my job, but I want to save and invest. So do you think going to college at this stage is a waste of time? Possibly so, but the fact that I have a plan B offers me security for that "just in case" scenario. Just find what you want to do and be uncompromisingly hardworking.

Wierd. Alot of what I've heard is that it's really hard to get any kind of a good job if you don't have a college degree. I doubt I want to drop out of high school though lol. I'm happy with the school I'm at now because the teachers dont all suck, and I don't get as much homework. Also, I think I'd rather have a job that won't get me rich but will keep me happy, because I've met homeless people who are a lot happyer then some of the people making 500k a year.

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Originally posted by shiny one By the way, I'll probably enjoy the homework in college if it's something fun like writing a program (that's not too structured) or designing a website, because I like more of the hands on kind of stuff.

everything's more goal-oriented. Like I said--forget about worksheets forever. I haven't done a single worksheet in college, other than on the first day of classes (what's your name & contact info). For computer stuff, you're basically writing stuff all the time--not reciting rules.

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Originally posted by shiny one I've met homeless people who are a lot happyer then some of the people making 500k a year.

There are exceptions to every rule.

Stay in school--especially if it's on your parents' dime.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous everything's more goal-oriented. Like I said--forget about worksheets forever. I haven't done a single worksheet in college, other than on the first day of classes (what's your name & contact info). For computer stuff, you're basically writing stuff all the time--not reciting rules.

NICE. I heard from my mom that if she had homework, it wasnt checked, and it was mainly just to learn what you needed to learn for the test. I guess if it's a lot of writing and stuff, I'll enjoy it because it will keep me busy, and I'll actually feel like I'm getting somewhere instead of doing some stupid worksheet just to have the teacher hand me another. Thanks.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous There are exceptions to every rule. Stay in school--especially if it's on your parents' dime.

Lol, my parents say that's another good thing about college. I live on my own and I don't have to pay for all the things I need. I think I'll enjoy most aspects of college, and I should probably just learn to crank through what I don't like and get it out of the way with.

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