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cry about it

Smoking in public. Do you mean in a bar or in a club in a enclosed space etc then yes I agree that will harm you, but if it's someone walking down the street smoking then your being a bit of hypochondriac about it.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan but if it's someone walking down the street smoking then your being a bit of hypochondriac about it.

No I'm not a hypochondriac. Well okay I am, but I think I'm still correct. In places where smoking inside is banned, ironically there's an ass load of smokers pushed outside. And in overcrowded areas like NYC and LA there is NO WAY AROUND the smell unless I walk into the street and become roadkill. Ever walk down Sunset strip or Santa Monica Blvd? There the restaurants somehow extend themselves into the sidewalks and you either have two feet of space or you are literally walking through the (smoking section of the) restaurant. If they stop smoking in my face, then I'll stop masturbatoring all over the floor.

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Originally posted by Ivand nobody profits from masturbation, thats why its illegal

That's actually the most convincing one-liner dissent to me. I think you have yourself a valid case!

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Originally posted by Allied Nations cry about it

I did. Last night. Where were you when I needed you?

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Originally posted by Jake Benson No I'm not a hypochondriac. Well okay I am, but I think I'm still correct. In places where smoking inside is banned, ironically there's an ass load of smokers pushed outside. And in overcrowded areas like NYC and LA there is NO WAY AROUND the smell unless I walk into the street and become roadkill. Ever walk down Sunset strip or Santa Monica Blvd? There the restaurants somehow extend themselves into the sidewalks and you either have two feet of space or you are literally walking through the (smoking section of the) restaurant. If they stop smoking in my face, then I'll stop masturbatoring all over the floor.

If that's your argument, you should target automobile exhaust as well.

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Originally posted by Ygrene If that's your argument, you should target automobile exhaust as well.

I just walk around, happily holding my breath. Take that shiat, would-be airborne toxins!

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Originally posted by Ygrene If that's your argument, you should target automobile exhaust as well.

I don't like that concentrated spewage out of their mouths. Likewise, when I'm behind one of those busses emitting tons of exhaust into my car, I change lanes or even streets. It'd be better if their car became electric though (likewise smokers became non-smokers or even better, sexbots).

And everything I say about cigarette smoke applies to automobile exhaust. The only problem with automobiles is that cars don't cost 5 bucks a pack and can be easily discarded after one use. It's a lot easier to conceal a cigarette than a car.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson I did. Last night. Where were you when I needed you?

smoking cigarettes in public

In what scenerios would someone want to masturbate in public?

WTF is this garbage thread?? C'mmooonn!!

You cannot compare the two, just no.

its illegal because you could hit someone in the eye

word around here is that last friday some dude was happily masturbating in the computer lab i usually go to

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Originally posted by noikeee word around here is that last friday some dude was happily masturbating in the computer lab i usually go to

yeah... uh, I've been meaning to apologize about that.

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Originally posted by lacksesepsotygh can i take a watery shit in front of you?

Sure. Second hand shit smell isn't as bad as second hand smoke

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Originally posted by TheWhiteQueen In what scenerios would someone want to masturbate in public?

Love Parade San Francisco. The same is there every year jerking off and getting videotaped by a friend of his. Apparently he does it at plenty of other outdoor SF festivals, as well.

Re: I don't see a difference between masturbating and smoking in public

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Both are an addiction, both give you temporary release, and both are not harmful to non-participants if they are far enough away (3+ feet for the masturbator and 25+ feet for the smokamator). So why is public masturbation illegal and public smoking (cigarettes) not? I don't have a right to move someone out of my way when they're oralling a cancer causing stick shit and in my damn way nearly everywhere I go in public. But if I whip it out and bust a nut, suddenly I'm a disgusting pervert and sent to jail even though stroking cock has never given anyone second-hand cock or titty cancer. What the hell? So if public smoking is legal, then masturbating in public should also be legal. Any dissent?

if u need to toss that badly, try a public toilet

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Originally posted by idoru Love Parade San Francisco. The same is there every year jerking off and getting videotaped by a friend of his. Apparently he does it at plenty of other outdoor SF festivals, as well.

its San Fransisco.

so what about smoking while masterbating in public would that be as bad i mean you evils could counteract or would you need a bottle of beer in your hand with smoke hanging ou of your mouth tossing your rocks?

I�ll take a stab at a dissent.

Smoking, within the limits of the law, is a protected activity because of the financial benefits to business (for which, you can send a letter of thanks to Phillip Morris, their lobbyists, and your member of Congress).

It does not necessarily follow that public masturbation should be a protected activity. Per the US Supreme Court in Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc.:

��Public indecency statutes of this sort are of ancient origin, and presently exist in at least 47 States. Public indecency, including nudity, was a criminal offense at common law �

�[P]ublic indecency statutes were designed to protect morals and public order. The traditional police power of the States is defined as the authority to provide for the public health, safety, and morals, and we have upheld such a basis for legislation�

�[T]his Court implicitly accepted that a legislature could legitimately act on such a conclusion to protect "the social interest in order and morality"�

�Thus, the public indecency statute furthers a substantial government interest in protecting order and morality��

So, I don�t see that public smoking is a persuasive argument to justify public masturbation.

And remember, those smoking outdoors have done what has been asked of them by not smoking indoors.

Having said that, in places where smoking inside is banned, feel free to whip out your one-eyed snake and spit venom on any smokers lighting up indoors.

move to a big fag country town jake.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN move to a big fag country town jake.

Dude, is there a need to be intolerant of his sexual preference? The thread isn't even about homosexuality.

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Originally posted by Theresa Dude, is there a need to be intolerant of his sexual preference? The thread isn't even about homosexuality.

"B-b-b-b-but... but... he likes GUYS! That's not NORMAL and it in no way affects me so it's WRONG!"

/sarcasm

(Note: Let's not let this thread turn into yet another debate on this subject. We've been there, we've done that. It'd be like flogging a horse that's been dead and decomposing for the last five hundred years.)

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Originally posted by idoru "B-b-b-b-but... but... he likes GUYS! That's not NORMAL and it in no way affects me so it's WRONG!"

good point

On topic, NSFW.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN move to a big fag country town jake.

I would but I just don't like Australian food. No but really I live in LA. It can't get any gayer than driving by giant signs with M4M dating telephone hotlines. Bleh. Who even uses phones for that anymore?

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Originally posted by spiflicated Smoking, within the limits of the law, is a protected activity because of the financial benefits to business (for which, you can send a letter of thanks to Phillip Morris, their lobbyists, and your member of Congress). It does not necessarily follow that public masturbation should be a protected activity. Per the US Supreme Court in Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc.: ��Public indecency statutes of this sort are of ancient origin, and presently exist in at least 47 States. Public indecency, including nudity, was a criminal offense at common law � �[P]ublic indecency statutes were designed to protect morals and public order. The traditional police power of the States is defined as the authority to provide for the public health, safety, and morals, and we have upheld such a basis for legislation� �[T]his Court implicitly accepted that a legislature could legitimately act on such a conclusion to protect "the social interest in order and morality"� �Thus, the public indecency statute furthers a substantial government interest in protecting order and morality�� So, I don�t see that public smoking is a persuasive argument to justify public masturbation.

I like your arguments. I think they're solid. But in my opinion they presume that what the law says is absolute. I don't necessarily view laws being absolute as they are created, modified, and sometimes nullified. What if "morals" were to include not-smoking in public? Would it suddenly be bad to smoke in public if the law said so? And if the law allowed public masturbation, what then would make it a bad idea?

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Having said that, in places where smoking inside is banned, feel free to whip out your one-eyed snake and spit venom on any smokers lighting up indoors.

Oh I do all the time. They call me jake the snake.

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