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Andrea, it sounds to me what you really want to go see is a rock concert.

Heh, or a live electronic act like Orbital / Underworld / etc.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 oh definitely! that is a valid point to not want to see one dj playing strictly ONLY their stuff. i'm not saying i want them to play only their stuff and nothing else. it's nice to hear some other music and it's nice hearing the djs incorporate their styles of music with other tracks from other artists. it's good their supporting ther fellow djs and styles and tracks they and the listeners like. i think it's important to mix and match but not stray too far from styles in that current set/tracklist. i'd just like to see something like this: 1. DJ A - track A 2. DJ A - track B 3. other dj 4. other dj 5. other dj 6. DJ A - track C 7. other dj - (DJ A remix) 8. other dj 9. DJ A - track D 10. other DJ - (DJ A remix) 11. DJ A - track E not DJ A playing two tracks of his out of 11, and/or playing too many different styles that don't match with the set that is being played. maybe i'm just being overzealous about my favorite djs playing more of their songs because i want to hear them in the club when they are present. demoted, i could listen to a full set of markus schulz only with no problems, lmao.

Another problem with this mentality: lack of set playlist variations. Case and point would be Gabriel & Dresden, who pretty much fit to a tee the very dj(s) you describe that you want. Their playlist has been the same for the past two or three years with marginal difference pardoning a few new productions and remixes by them and a few tracks from other people they cane. Other than that, you could download a set of theirs from mid 2005 and have basically the same set as one from 2007.

Unless you're making productions left and right, your playlist will become very, VERY samey. The problem with making productions left and right to add variety to your set is that quality will naturally fall victim to quantity.

Playing mostly your own tracks is like handcuffing yourself to a set number of tracks. And why would you want a dj to handcuff their creativity?

This is like one of those ideas that look wonderful in theory, but fail horribly in practice. Dj's who play mostly their own stuff tend to be shit.

I understand it's a valid criticism of the electronic scene, by saying "the dj takes credit from the work of other producers" - but the fact is, it's still the best way to have some fun live with EDM. Actually, the whole point of being a "dj" is to research a shitload of music and make your own artistic work by combining tracks from multiple sources in a creative way. The creativity behind it eventually died out from using the standard way of mixing (mix in a new track, let it run fully, mix in a new track, let it run fully, etc), but the point still stands as some argue that even using the standard way of mixing, you can make a "journey" out of it.

I suppose not everyone is able to produce in a short period of time such beautiful tracks like Chicane did in the late nineties:

Chicane Live In Palladium 22-01-2000

1. Intro / Nagasaki Badger
2. Halcyon
3. Saltwater (Tomski vs. Disco Citizens Remix)
4. Don't Give Up (Tomski vs. Disco Citizens Instrumental)
5. Offshore (Original/Disco Citizens Remix)
6. Maharvey
7. Saltwater (Original)

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Originally posted by Trancefxs I suppose not everyone is able to produce in a short period of time such beautiful tracks like Chicane did in the late nineties: Chicane Live In Palladium 22-01-2000 1. Intro / Nagasaki Badger 2. Halcyon 3. Saltwater (Tomski vs. Disco Citizens Remix) 4. Don't Give Up (Tomski vs. Disco Citizens Instrumental) 5. Offshore (Original/Disco Citizens Remix) 6. Maharvey 7. Saltwater (Original)

That was a live PA tho, not a DJ set. A whole another thing.

sorry, was convinced it was him mixing a couple of his tracks. Already attended a small live performance of Nu-Nrg during Energy 2005, but it was far from great.

If you want all the original Artist performing only there stuff. Listen to Daft Punk. Only sets they've done with other tracks are the Essential Mixes they've done on Radio 1.

Anything live is completely their work, or remixes of their work.

I think that DJs should be introducing people to lots of different music. "Producer sets" totally negate that, as do playlists that vary by just a few tracks from location to location on tours. Playing the same hundred or so "hot" tracks over and over again on a tour is just lame.

A DJ should never play his own music. That's what other DJs are for.

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Originally posted by Ishkur A DJ should never play his own music. That's what other DJs are for.

I tend to like DJ's that never play their productions more than those that play them in surplus.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 oh definitely! that is a valid point to not want to see one dj playing strictly ONLY their stuff. i'm not saying i want them to play only their stuff and nothing else. it's nice to hear some other music and it's nice hearing the djs incorporate their styles of music with other tracks from other artists. it's good their supporting ther fellow djs and styles and tracks they and the listeners like. i think it's important to mix and match but not stray too far from styles in that current set/tracklist. i'd just like to see something like this: 1. DJ A - track A 2. DJ A - track B 3. other dj 4. other dj 5. other dj 6. DJ A - track C 7. other dj - (DJ A remix) 8. other dj 9. DJ A - track D 10. other DJ - (DJ A remix) 11. DJ A - track E not DJ A playing two tracks of his out of 11, and/or playing too many different styles that don't match with the set that is being played. maybe i'm just being overzealous about my favorite djs playing more of their songs because i want to hear them in the club when they are present. demoted, i could listen to a full set of markus schulz only with no problems, lmao.

that's one horrible set right there. you really don't seem to understand the point of a dj. dj is a dj, not a producer. producer is the one who produces music. dj is the one who plays other people's music. you don't like djs. you like producers. you'd like to listen to producers, not djs. therefore i suggest you find yourself some other genre, like rock. or then limit yourself to electronic music live acts which are few and far between.
you really should understand the point of a dj and the difference between a dj and a producer.

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Originally posted by Demoted dj does not equal production. Going to see a dj for their productions is like liking a chef because they grow their own crops and not because they cook well.

Bollocks, there's nothing wrong with going to see a DJ because you like their productions.

i really can't see the problem here.. there's shitloads of djs that already play a bunch of their own productions at most of their gigs. some do it for promotion, some others do it because they can't find enough music by other people they actually like, others just do it cos they like to see people enjoying something they made. it's just one of those things that will always happen

but like most others say in this thread, the dj shouldn't ever feel obliged to do it just to keep people happy, the same as they should never feel obliged to fulfill requests. you're paying to hear them play what the hell they like

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Originally posted by RickyM Bollocks, there's nothing wrong with going to see a DJ because you like their productions.

this is true, mainly because 90% of the time they'll play roughly the same style as they produce. but at the same time it's a bit lame to automatically expect them to drop the tunes you know them for

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Originally posted by isoterra ...some others do it because they can't find enough music by other people they actually like...

If they have so much trouble finding a variety of good music, then why are they DJing?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles If they have so much trouble finding a variety of good music, then why are they DJing?

because they get bookings?

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Originally posted by skip therefore i suggest you find yourself some other genre, like rock. or then limit yourself to electronic music live acts which are few and far between. you really should understand the point of a dj and the difference between a dj and a producer.

well... we all have our opinions. obviously me is different than yours, but i'm not going to stomp and harp on your opinion because it differs.

i listen to a lot of other genres but i'm not going to stop listening to edm because of tracklistings (how closeminded and ridiculous would that be?). and no i will not limit myself... i wll listen to as many musicians and djs as possible, thank you. i never said i hated the sets (if that were the case, i would stop attending the shows). i never said i don't like djs, and i never said i love producers more than djs.

thanks so much for your "suggestion" though.

At least it can work out very good;

2002-06-29 Yunus @ Kiss 100

01. DoGu Dimmez - Possible
02. T. Raumshmiere - Zarbeiter EP [Shitkatapult]
03. Gady - Amadeus [Ronster]
04. Yunus - Red Pilot [Silver Planet]
05. Cervus Vs Yunus - Sheltox
06. Yunus - Tigris
07. Subsky - Confide In Me
08. Yunus - Euphrates
09. Bedrock - For What You Dream Of [Stress]

ye I know I'm whoring this set ;o

A DJ should never play music you've already heard. That's what mix CDs are for.

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Originally posted by Ishkur A DJ should never play music you've already heard. That's what mix CDs are for.

Seriousely, I never understood why people expect to have DJs play certain tunes. What's the point of paying for expensive equipment and for a guy to stand behind it for five hours when you could just put on a pop hits CD and get the same result?

i def think that dj's shouldn't just spin their own songs the entire set. As said before it seems kind of bland and uninteresting. Like maybe 4 or 5 max depending how long the set is but an entire set just seems boring for me.

Im sure there are people who think most djs play their own productions/ whore their own label too much, so they can't really win whatever they do. People love complaining when armin plays too many armind or asot tracks, or when above and beyond play a set of nothing but anjunabeats.

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Originally posted by Ishkur A DJ should never play music you've already heard. That's what mix CDs are for.

That's taking it too far.

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