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Posted by Boinked on Mar-21-2007 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
0 entry cost will bring more DJs to compete.



I think he was just bringing it up to make sure no one even considered charging?



Plus, how could you charge if the winner isn't going to be winning anything but "DJ of the Month" honors?


Posted by Yohan on Mar-21-2007 13:50:

Beatport has some promo tunes for free download too. Last month there were tunes by Airwave, Kerry Chandler, Infusion


Posted by Trance Android on Mar-21-2007 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Boinked
I like what you're suggesting, but a DJ should only be limited by a music selection that he chooses, not one that's given to him.


Dude thats the whole point of the exercise, to see how differently we interpret & mix the same bunch of tracks. Should be really interesting.


quote:
Originally posted by Boinked
I think he was just bringing it up to make sure no one even considered charging?

Plus, how could you charge if the winner isn't going to be winning anything but "DJ of the Month" honors?


No one has ever mentioned an entry fee. The context of a "fee" in this instance is in relation to buying tracks - obviously not everyone will own the tracks chosen for the list so we gotta go buy em. Tracks from ta producer forum would of course be free ...but using ta producer tracks immediately rules out any entries from our vinyl worshipping chums


Posted by Boinked on Mar-21-2007 15:34:

That's what I'm saying...

If you read the older posts in this thread you would see that they were trying to get a set list of 10 songs that everyone would try to mix, and see who came up with the best mix. I'm joining the side that says you choose your own list because, ultimately, you're going to be more passionate about that and probably produce something much better than if you were forced to DJ other songs...


And if you read the quote that mentions the words "0 entry fee" (page 2 of this thread) I responded to that saying that there shouldn't be an entry fee...


...

Am I going crazy or are we arguing the same things?



Edit:

I see what you're saying that might of confused me earlier... He was arguing that people shouldn't be forced to go buy songs and had nothing to do with an entry fee? Problem solved.


Posted by Nickerous on Mar-21-2007 18:15:

I vote for trance (I'd be happy with house too)

And I'm impartial to the track selection.


Posted by lawrenceq on Mar-21-2007 19:23:

Well guys and girls a lot of us have talked about trance, or house, why dont we start naming some songs that may be well known (to emphasize how each can interpret familiar tunes into our own mixes uniquely).
Here are a few tracks I imagine a fair amount of you are familiar with in trance:
1. ronski speed - the space we are
2. andy moor - yearzero
3. saltwater - the legacy
4. gabriel and dresden - dangerous power
5. luminary - dark eyes
6. bryan kearney - exactly
7. Jose amnesia - louder
8. Sean Tyas - Lift
9. Cosmic gate - analogue feel
10. En mass - CQ


Posted by epdarks on Mar-21-2007 19:31:

If there was confusion about 'charging'.... no, I meant 0 cost to enter. $0 spent a vinyl or digital download means more entries.

See IMO those tracks above are garbage, will vinyl guys really want to buy them?

Lets try to collaborate with the production forum and see if they can offer us some FREE tracks. Vinyl guys are out of luck, but I dont see them paying $100 for this contest anyway.

Lets just do a DJ contest, once a month or so... DJs submit a mix (must be current), we download them and grade them based on specific criteria.


Posted by idoru on Mar-21-2007 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Boinked
I'm joining the side that says you choose your own list because, ultimately, you're going to be more passionate about that and probably produce something much better than if you were forced to DJ other songs...


But that defeats the entire purpose of this competition. This competition is about seeing who can be the most creative with the same tracks. If you want to do it your way, then go start a regular DJ mix competition.


Posted by lawrenceq on Mar-21-2007 20:07:

well hey I've named some tracks up there, other people should start doing the same until we come to an agreement where we all have familiarity with at least a few of tracks named... so start listing!


Posted by Jarvmeister on Mar-21-2007 20:07:

Yeah, ffs Boinked, if you can't be bothered to read about how this all started then sod off. We've got stuff to do and you're not helping with your interjections.

Jarv


Posted by Yohan on Mar-21-2007 20:10:

Let's also not get too hung up on what genre to pick either.

If this goes well, I'm sure they'll be a rotation of genres for next ones.

It's all about being creative, try something different and most important fun, right?


Posted by Yohan on Mar-21-2007 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by lawrenceq
well hey I've named some tracks up there, other people should start doing the same until we come to an agreement where we all have familiarity with at least a few of tracks named... so start listing!

Ok. First things first.
If this is a contest, we need to have a few judges. At least 3 who'd be willing to sit down and listen to all the sets submitted.
Also, the judges should pick a genre, then pick 10 tracks for the contestants to mix.
Then a deadline to submit a mix.

Organize...


Posted by lawrenceq on Mar-21-2007 20:17:

total noob question, but how do I upload people's mixes if I wanna have a listen?


Posted by Yohan on Mar-21-2007 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by lawrenceq
total noob question, but how do I upload people's mixes if I wanna have a listen?

You mean upload a set?

Use one of the free servers. Sendspace and Megaupload seem popular


Posted by lawrenceq on Mar-21-2007 20:27:

Well Im down for listening to "one" entry from each competitor, but like I said in earlier posts I can only do this at the end of April when my exams are over.


Posted by shaw on Mar-21-2007 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Boinked
I'm joining the side that says you choose your own list because, ultimately, you're going to be more passionate about that and probably produce something much better than if you were forced to DJ other songs...


Like Idoru said, the point of this is to use the same tracks. There's no one on that "side" because we're not discussing how to do a general competition.

In any case, before we pick tracks, we need a genre and a selection from which to choose them, so keep the votes on that coming.

Also, we'd either need judges (and more than 3, IMO), or to open it up to everyone. I'd say it'd be more useful to do something in between--make it open for anyone to judge, so long as you make the commitment to listen to everything. We might wind up with 3 people on the voting panel, or we might wind up with 50. Either way, that eliminates the process of nominating people, and bickering over their choices.

p.s. please don't use megaupload.


Posted by Inny on Mar-21-2007 22:15:

I'd love this competition to be in the Trance genre, though I'd also compete if it were either techno or house, or any other genre. I'm curious in those other styles as well. There's always stuff to learn in undiscovered terrains :P

For music source I have no real preference, since I'm a beatport cheapo :P


Posted by djdk on Mar-21-2007 22:21:

why stick to one genre???????


Posted by Inny on Mar-21-2007 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
why stick to one genre???????


So we can limit the track selection to about 10 tracks which can be used to make a coherent mix. This is hardly possible with 10 tracks from 3 or more different genres.

We could of course have 3 rounds (1 per genre) and select about 10 tracks per round


Posted by Michael May on Mar-21-2007 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
why stick to one genre???????


No disrespect, but this is Tranceaddict.com. I think it would get really confusing with alot of other genres. I personally would not do it if it were house. I do not own any house music, and I would not waste my time searching and purchasing it, let alone mixing it. This is j/m/o and I don't mean any disrespect to anyone else.


Posted by epdarks on Mar-21-2007 22:49:

Can you imagine listening to 15+ mixes of the SAME 10 tracks??? It'd be horrible. I'd be bored by mix 3. IMO it won't work.

Do a DJ contest. Any tracks. Any software/hardware can participate. Judging is one poll thread. Mixes can be compiled into one thread on a certain date. Voting could take place for 1-2 weeks. Limit of 7 tracks. ETC. ???


Posted by Allied Nations on Mar-21-2007 23:03:

We can talk out ideas in here, then make an official/stickied thread in the dj promo section.


Posted by Yohan on Mar-22-2007 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
Can you imagine listening to 15+ mixes of the SAME 10 tracks??? It'd be horrible. I'd be bored by mix 3. IMO it won't work.

Do a DJ contest. Any tracks. Any software/hardware can participate. Judging is one poll thread. Mixes can be compiled into one thread on a certain date. Voting could take place for 1-2 weeks. Limit of 7 tracks. ETC. ???

It's been done before.

We're trying for something creative here.


Posted by Yohan on Mar-22-2007 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael May
No disrespect, but this is Tranceaddict.com. I think it would get really confusing with alot of other genres. I personally would not do it if it were house. I do not own any house music, and I would not waste my time searching and purchasing it, let alone mixing it. This is j/m/o and I don't mean any disrespect to anyone else.

No offence to you, but the usage of this is tranceaddict so it should be about trance is lame.

The site is about every genre EDM. (Heck, even Swamper said so)

Explore new genres. Have fun with other genres, not just what you like.
(Maybe you'll even like new genre)

I'm so tempted to suggest the first genre to be something very obscure, like happy hardcore or acid house or something, just to get away from mainstream genres and make it more interesting.


Posted by djdk on Mar-22-2007 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Inny
So we can limit the track selection to about 10 tracks which can be used to make a coherent mix. This is hardly possible with 10 tracks from 3 or more different genres.


Bollocks mate, seriously, if you think it isnt possible to make a coherent 10 track mix with tracks from 3 different genres then you need to get out more.

In fact, maybe it would be interesting to take 10 tracks from 10 different genres and see how many different and original ways people can come up with of putting them together.


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