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Posted by ZeJayMan on Mar-24-2007 15:54:

Behold, my arse.

The Horse In B is in a better position.


Posted by Lira on Mar-24-2007 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
A

It looks proud, and less uncomfortble.

Same here.


Posted by Omega_M on Mar-24-2007 16:28:

I think most people will opt for A, regardless of the neck and head position. A is a neatly taken photo with a white horse walking around, centered in the picture and a lady riding it. B is a poorly taken photograph. The horse is not shown completely in the picture, the lady's face is blacked out and so on. There is an inherent bias for picture A.


Posted by lexxwolfen on Mar-24-2007 17:17:

For all those that picked A, you're right.
A is the correct position.
B is incorrect yet used very often.


Posted by Marc Summers on Mar-24-2007 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
did it cross your mind that the second photo might have been shot at a close angle ?


huhuhuhuh ReALLY?!

It's quite obvious that it is a larger horse. If those are two different riders, I highly doubt that the person's legs in the top picture are 6 inches longer than the person's legs on the bottom. Look at the bottom of the horses chest. The rider on the top, her legs go past the bottom. The rider on the bottom, her legs are about 3 inches from the bottom of the horses chest.

It seems you like replying to me often, in an attempt to prove me wrong.


Posted by Omega_M on Mar-24-2007 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
It's quite obvious that it is a larger horse. If those are two different riders, I highly doubt that the person's legs in the top picture are 6 inches longer than the person's legs on the bottom. Look at the bottom of the horses chest. The rider on the top, her legs go past the bottom. The rider on the bottom, her legs are about 3 inches from the bottom of the horses chest.


You assume that in both cases the pictures were taken from exactly the same height with the line of sight parallel to the ground. Height and depth perception of 3-D figures on 2-D photo surfaces can be very misleading. To objectively state that one horse is larger than the other, you need to take 2 identical photos from the same distance and the same height.


Posted by ZeJayMan on Mar-24-2007 17:47:

In a dressage competition, which this seems to be, rather than a jumping competition, the horses head should be positioned the way it is in picture B. No shit.


Posted by Marc Summers on Mar-24-2007 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
You assume that in both cases the pictures were taken from exactly the same height with the line of sight parallel to the ground. Height and depth perception of 3-D figures on 2-D photo surfaces can be very misleading. To objectively state that one horse is larger than the other, you need to take 2 identical photos from the same distance and the same height.


No. No. No. Now you are just disagreeing with me for the hell of it. That's really lame. The angle doesn't matter, I'm basing it on the position of the feet, I guess you didn't read since you're still blabbering about the overall horse. The angle of the photo is not significant enough for the perception of depth to be misread.

Go do something instead of taking a simple comment and analyzing it horribly.


Posted by bas on Mar-24-2007 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by lexxwolfen
For all those that picked A, you're right.
A is the correct position.
B is incorrect yet used very often.

Correct and incorrect what? If the question is "which looks better" the answer is sujective.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-24-2007 19:00:

C)




pay close attention to the neck of the camel, its in a U shape upwards. Plus its prefered since a uzbikistani boy is stealing this cammel and running off with the collections. This adds to the composure of the picture.


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-24-2007 19:05:

LOL @ CAMEL

yack, horses.

I was going to pick A because it looks nicer, B looks deformed lol


Posted by Omega_M on Mar-24-2007 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
The angle doesn't matter, I'm basing it on the position of the feet...

Well the angle does matter. if you snap a pic from below, the foot will appear raised above the horse's body and you will perceive that
quote:
The rider on the bottom, her legs are about 3 inches from the bottom of the horses chest.

On the other hand, if you take a shot from above, you will see the foot dangling below the horse's body.
quote:
The rider on the top, her legs go past the bottom.

quote:
The angle of the photo is not significant enough for the perception of depth to be misread.

That's your judgment. It can be misleading. The two pics are not even taken from the same distance for a comparison.

I don't blame you for not believing me. People are convinced beyond doubt that NASA didn't land men on the moon precisely because of such deceptive perceptions.


Posted by Marc Summers on Mar-24-2007 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
Well the angle does matter. if you snap a pic from below, the foot will appear raised above the horse's body and you will perceive that

On the other hand, if you take a shot from above, you will see the foot dangling below the horse's body.


So, you're admitting that it was taken right in the middle, looking straight, with no angle. Good job.


Posted by lexxwolfen on Mar-24-2007 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan
In a dressage competition, which this seems to be, rather than a jumping competition, the horses head should be positioned the way it is in picture B. No shit.


Wrong.
When the head is positioned like it is in photo B, the horse is thrown off balance, he uses muscles that should only be used for swallowing food/water, it puts tremendous strain on his neck, it prevents him from using his hind legs properly, etc.
A is correct no matter which way you look at it. In dressage, the Poll should be the highest point (like in photo A)

Photo B - Hyperflexation/rollkur
Photo A - Correct flexing/posture


Posted by lexxwolfen on Mar-24-2007 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
So, you're admitting that it was taken right in the middle, looking straight, with no angle. Good job.


As for the photo angle and horse size.... the horse in B is actually turning so his body is tilted, which is why the riders foot looks to be higher up on the body.


Posted by dark_Omens on Mar-24-2007 20:18:

A


Posted by Haak on Mar-24-2007 22:49:

B cause of the black square


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-25-2007 19:40:

no body has commented on C)

you guys are alll ass******s


Posted by Googooly on Mar-25-2007 20:01:

Re: Which looks better? (research)

quote:
Originally posted by lexxwolfen
Doing a little research and I would like to know which of the 2 pictures looks better,regarding the position of the head and neck of the horse.

Pick A or B and explain why, or just pick one without an explaination if you're a lazy ass.



I'm asking in the c0r mainly because I know not a lot of you ride. I need the opinions of people that dont ride or know much about horses in general.




Looks better for what dating or riding?

if dating i thin A becuase its goodlooking and handsome, If for riding I would go for B becuase I its thinner and can run faster.


just my couple of pennys.












A



B


Looks better for what dating or riding?

if dating i thin B becuase its goodlooking and handsome, If for riding I would go for A becuase I its thinner and can run faster.


just my couple of pennys.


Posted by bas on Mar-25-2007 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
C)




pay close attention to the neck of the camel, its in a U shape upwards. Plus its prefered since a uzbikistani boy is stealing this cammel and running off with the collections. This adds to the composure of the picture.

Clearly the winner.


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