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Originally posted by MeLLyMeL That's fine. But we don't need another DA on the boards bashing his ONCE fav dj You weren't there. I wasn't there. I haven't lost hope in him yet and I am dying for mother fuking Summerstage BYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH edit- oh and according to some review not all the dj's brought it this wmc

I'm nothing like DA I speak on what I have seen from PvD throughout the years...even seeing the T/L to the parties I didn't go to didn't impress me all the much.

He's gotten like Ti�sto got after winning number one, maybe not as bad but everyone all of a sudden jumped the PvD bangwagon.

Mel you & I both know that he's had much better sets then he's played during the past year...I'm not even completely giving up on him but to be honest after seeing SvD I was completely wowed that a DJ could make me feel like PvD once did'

SvD played on Saturday like PvD once played all high energy & non stop...not ONE bad track

even if PvD has his great set, it gets ruined by a couple of those old/played out tracks.

He just isn't the BEST anymore
consistancy has to do with every single party you do...and he isn't being consistent if you ask me.

Either way I have a reason to talk especially since I saw a DJ that played no classics or stupid tracks.

I want to move forward in music not back.

edit- to be honest this isn't only me thinking this way about PvD, there are people who've seen PvD since 01 saying he's lost it & isn't the same...people who've seen him in his PRIME...I'm talking about WAY better than the last 2 years combined.

If old school fans say it, it's for a reason.

I agree about the PvD reworks and is one of the main reasons I see him any chance I get. I can spin at my house if I want to hear anything else.

Like I said in my review and what Swamper said, he really did bring it the first two hours.

About him always playing all of his old tracks. Last month in NYC he played Another Way, Stormy Skies, and Complicated. That was it, out of a 6.75 hour set, I think that was amaizing.

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Originally posted by Dream Beamz I agree about the PvD reworks and is one of the main reasons I see him any chance I get. I can spin at my house if I want to hear anything else. Like I said in my review and what Swamper said, he really did bring it the first two hours. About him always playing all of his old tracks. Last month in NYC he played Another Way, Stormy Skies, and Complicated. That was it, out of a 6.75 hour set, I think that was amaizing.

No one can doubt the talent that he has,its just that he doesnt bring the same energy that he brings other places when he is so popular in Miami.He should bring the hard fast paced trance that caves in the roof not a classic night on WMC.I mean for WMC the poeple are going to be the most informed poeple on EDM that you will find!!Why not show them your tricks rather than you old pony show??Right??

I agree and he actually used to bring it in Miami moreso than anywhere else. Back in the 02 - Early 2004 days he tore it up in comparison to his nights at the Docks in toronto, Amnesia Ibiza and even beat the Roxy shows in NY.

IMO Paul lost alot of his Energy for every where he plays using Ableton, he is getting much much better with it now but it will take time. Ableton has more ability than playing with Serato or Final Scratch but it also takes some of the fun out of it, even for the crowd.

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Originally posted by MeLLyMeL That's fine. But we don't need another DA on the boards bashing his ONCE fav dj

There is no other way to say it so I'll just say it.



Fuck you.

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Originally posted by FallingMoon I'm nothing like DA I speak on what I have seen from PvD throughout the years...even seeing the T/L to the parties I didn't go to didn't impress me all the much. He's gotten like Ti�sto got after winning number one, maybe not as bad but everyone all of a sudden jumped the PvD bangwagon. Mel you & I both know that he's had much better sets then he's played during the past year...I'm not even completely giving up on him but to be honest after seeing SvD I was completely wowed that a DJ could make me feel like PvD once did' SvD played on Saturday like PvD once played all high energy & non stop...not ONE bad track even if PvD has his great set, it gets ruined by a couple of those old/played out tracks. He just isn't the BEST anymore consistancy has to do with every single party you do...and he isn't being consistent if you ask me. Either way I have a reason to talk especially since I saw a DJ that played no classics or stupid tracks. I want to move forward in music not back. edit- to be honest this isn't only me thinking this way about PvD, there are people who've seen PvD since 01 saying he's lost it & isn't the same...people who've seen him in his PRIME...I'm talking about WAY better than the last 2 years combined. If old school fans say it, it's for a reason.

Enough said.

I bash on him for a reason...a damn good reason. Spirits and Space WMC '06. He just blurted out that monotonous energy-lacking crap at Spirits and brought a way-less-than-standard set at Space for WMC, which IMO is the Super Bowl of all EDM, at least in this country. That Space set was more of a letdown than the Spirits one for certain reasons I will not state at this time.

PvD 1998-2005: Always #1 for me. Nothing...NOTHING will ever change that.

2006-present: Rank 1 #1 for me.

That is all.

at least you got the memories and they ended with pvd @ space nov 5th 2005

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Originally posted by Dream Beamz I agree and he actually used to bring it in Miami moreso than anywhere else. Back in the 02 - Early 2004 days he tore it up in comparison to his nights at the Docks in toronto, Amnesia Ibiza and even beat the Roxy shows in NY

PVD never played at the Docks.... or are you talking about Tiesto?

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Originally posted by Swamper PVD never played at the Docks.... or are you talking about Tiesto?

Ya, the docks was Tiesto.As i herd.....

but maybe PVD spun there too.

My bad, it was the Guv. I think I was wishing paul would have played at the docks

Got there around 2:30,3 and pvd was tearing the place up. I don't know exactly what songs he played, but he really had a lot of energy, and the crowd was reacting to it and enjoying themselves... really loved the LED panels and the sound system was great. Agreed though, that his usage of the horn was a little excessive at times, but whatever.

Combine that w/ Sander k's set and i give the night a 9/10, only b/c of the 30 minute wait to get onto the terrace around 6... i think.

Man, Paul @ the Terrace was the best set Ive seen out of him.. Hard fast paced trance with twisted techno in between.. He's set at Ultra was good enough, but If I were to compare it to other Ultra sets, it was the one I liked least. ( And Ive been to Ultra 7 times now. )

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Originally posted by vtec junkie I don't get it....PVD is always good in NYC....how come he always sucks in Miami??? Well at least during the conference. I was not there but past few years he never impressed me in Miami.

I agree, I was pretty disappointed in his set, also considering how good he was @ Crobar in NY last month.

I guess what topped it off for me was the literal robbing of people the staff at space was participating in....almost everyone I know had a "shady space" story to tell by the end of the night....from the jacked-up prices, to the illegal extorting of money. I am officially done with SPACE, and I might even be done with PvD in Miami. It seems the larger the event, the worse the organization during the WMC.

Finally, i seriously think Paul should switch venues for his events during the WMC. Given that he considers himself an ambassador of electronic music, the fundamental aspect of this scene is bringing people together for the enjoyment of the music without the pretentiousness we commonly affiliate with the club scene....we all should write to VANDIT and express to them our discontent with space as a venue for any future events.

Overall, Sander K was great on the terrace, but too bad I almost got trampled on the way upstairs and had to hear some asshole bouncer yell at my fiancee for no apparent reason...ah the beauty of the WMC...gotta love it.....................NOT!

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Originally posted by Dream Beamz at least you got the memories and they ended with pvd @ space nov 5th 2005

True, but the most precious, most priceless memories for me were on 7-26-02 and 6-20-03.

My video of the night, well worth the trip just for visting space - top club.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGFY1EP6htA

i have to agree with sleepingclubber on this one...i honestly feel bad for all those that have had bad space experiences with money and waiting in line..but ive been goin to space for 3 years now and have never had a bad space experience. sure ive had to wait in lines to get to the terrace...what can u expect from the #1 club in the US? especially during WMC. i however love space as a club and the whole atmosphere around the place. in the US..i feel no club can compete with what space offers in regards to the length and quality of clubbing...with event goin on till 3,4,5pm the next day. so like i said...sorry for those that have had negative experiences there...i will continue to go there...and for those that bitch about the money....buy ur tickets in advance! thats what presales are for...i didnt pay more than $40 for any of my space tickets for the whole week.

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Originally posted by gimmebeatz i have to agree with sleepingclubber on this one...i honestly feel bad for all those that have had bad space experiences with money and waiting in line..but ive been goin to space for 3 years now and have never had a bad space experience. sure ive had to wait in lines to get to the terrace...what can u expect from the #1 club in the US? especially during WMC. i however love space as a club and the whole atmosphere around the place. in the US..i feel no club can compete with what space offers in regards to the length and quality of clubbing...with event goin on till 3,4,5pm the next day. so like i said...sorry for those that have had negative experiences there...i will continue to go there...and for those that bitch about the money....buy ur tickets in advance! thats what presales are for...i didnt pay more than $40 for any of my space tickets for the whole week.

You are on point bro,you get it.
I go to Space every other Saturday and Space has been for me the club with the least hassle i mean SOBE is way,way,way,way,wayway,way,way,way,way,way worse in evry aspect,especially Mansion.They have some real assnecks for door guys in Miami and Space has somne pretty cool one's.

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Originally posted by Dream Beamz Videos can be found here There should be 15 videos total http://dreambeamz.com/pvdwmcspace/

Video IDs
MOV02670 - ID, ID
MOV02671 - ATC - Around the world (unknown instrumental remix) I could be wrong on this but its the only thing i know that remotely sounds like it
MOV02674- Robert Gitelman vs. Michael Tsukerman - Memories From The Future, small loops of Visior & Dark Moon - Beautiful People (Original Club Mix)
MOV02676 - Mandy Reid - Up the Tempo
MOV02677 - ID
MOV02678 - FKN featuring Jahala - Why (Aly & Fila Remix)
MOV02680- ID
MOV02681 - Dirty Sound
MOV02682 - Dark beat , Santiago Nino - Beleave
MOV02684 - Art of Trance - Madagascar
MOV02685 - Art of Trance - Madagascar
MOV02686- ID
MOV02687 - ID
MOV02688 - Nothing but you, blechhhhhh
MOV02690 - Filo and Peri - Anthem

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