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See I would've closed this thread already...
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 See I would've closed this thread already... |
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations Why? People speaking their minds too much for MTLTA to handle? |
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 nahhh man cuz this isnt the place to discuss this matter exclusivity contracts have been around since the dawn of business no use bitching about it on TA |
the first time i've heard about that situation was on the tubbies web-site
i was shock but maybe we should wait and see what happens
i'm hopping that the situation will get solves for everybody involve
till then i will still go out to both clubs to support the dj i love
have a good day all MTLTA
as seen on Tubbies:
NOUVEAU 26 mars 2007 � Il se passe quelque chose de tr�s triste dans les hautes sph�res du Nightlife montr�alais depuis quelques jours. Une gu�guerre vient d'�clater entre les Afterhours et croyez-moi, cette derni�re sera l'une des plus compliqu�es � r�gler. Je n'ai pas l'intention de d�voiler publiquement les raisons de cette m�sentente car je tiens � rester neutre dans cette histoire. Pas question de prendre pour l'un, ni pour l'autre. Ils sont assez grands pour savoir ce qu'ils font. Pourquoi je vous en parle alors? Tout simplement parce que cette f�cheuse situation fait en sorte que nous devons annuler le passage de l'ami et DJ St�fane Lipp� � l'After Eight Dayclub ce dimanche 1er avril (et ce n'est malheureusement pas un poisson d'avil)...
Quand les DJs ne peuvent plus jouer o� ils veulent, c'est � ce moment que les disputes entre les �tablissements deviennent path�tiques. Demandez aux DJs ce qu'ils aiment le plus? JOUER. Plusieurs gagnent leur vie � faire danser des centaines d'amateurs chaque semaine. Si de telles chicanes persistent, c'est toute l'industrie qui devra en payer le prix. Vous devez savoir que St�fane n'est pas le seul � devoir annuler des dates. Mais comme nous sommes les co-producteurs des �v�nements pr�vus les 1er avril et 13 mai @ l'After 8, nous perdons aussi beaucoup de sous dans cette aventure. C'est triste et frustrant � la fois. Triste pour St�fane. Triste surtout pour les amateurs qui aiment l'entendre partout.
Je souhaite juste que les gens concern�s puissent se rencontrer, discuter et r�gler le dilemme le plus rapidement possible. La politique, c'est pour l'Assembl�e Nationale les boys. Laissez les DJs s'amuser, travailler, s'exprimer. Nous en serons tous gagnants !
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| Originally posted by chikitamtl the first time i've heard about that situation was on the tubbies web-site i was shock but maybe we should wait and see what happens i'm hopping that the situation will get solves for everybody involve till then i will still go out to both clubs to support the dj i love have a good day all MTLTA |
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 nahhh man cuz this isnt the place to discuss this matter exclusivity contracts have been around since the dawn of business |
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| Originally posted by Tag Genocide, War, Racism etc have been around since the dawn of humanity...does that make it right? |
It looks like the question is business ethics: does business have an ethical obligation to promote more than its ends and does business have an obligation to extend its efforts to include promoting the best functioning of the society and community in which it exists? The answer: yup. The only reason that business is able to operate outside of the ethical or moralistic constraints of the people that are involved in it is because of its discorporeal existence. The fact that corporations are imaginary figures and not actually the group of people involved in working with it, owning it, or managing it is the reason why corporations and businesses are allowed to pollute the planet, engage in anti-constitutional actions in foreign countries and locally, and poison, kill, or maim people without recourse. If the people that owned businesses were actually held responsible for their actions, a lot of the Forbes 500 list CEOs would be behind bars and possibly put to death. 'OK,' you're saying, 'So what the fuck does this have to do with anything?' The concept of the exclusivity contract is derived from the mindset of the corporation or business: it protects the business's ends at the expense of the Djs and the scene's best interests. For DJs, they are held into performing only at specific locales and are seriously limited in the venues, events, and opportunities they can participate in although the idea of having a steady paycheck is nice. The same can be said about doctors, general laborers, and just about any other profession that has similar exclusivity contracts. The scene, likewise, suffers because it is limited in the fluidity of talent and in the ability to spontaneously create new events that are crucial for its own longevity. So there are two perspectives on the issue: exclusivity contracts are great for businesses because they can capitalize on a DJs popularity and make cash. Exclusivity contracts are horrible for the general populace and the scene because it cages what should be the free expression of creativity and contributes to the gradual decay of what should be more of an artistic community than a business venture. Which one is right? I would argue the latter because it has been shown time and again that businesses that act only with their own ends in mind are more destructive than beneficial for almost everyone, their own employees and managers alike. Furthermore, if you think of a corporation as an actual human being, a person who only acts with his or her own ends in mind is a fucking jerk and should be treated as such. So circus djs aren't allowed to play at stereobar. Way to go, pal. Way to think of the situation with only your self-serving interests in mind. Paix.
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| Originally posted by ImmyJ It looks like the question is business ethics: does business have an ethical obligation to promote more than its ends and does business have an obligation to extend its efforts to include promoting the best functioning of the society and community in which it exists? The answer: yup. The only reason that business is able to operate outside of the ethical or moralistic constraints of the people that are involved in it is because of its discorporeal existence. The fact that corporations are imaginary figures and not actually the group of people involved in working with it, owning it, or managing it is the reason why corporations and businesses are allowed to pollute the planet, engage in anti-constitutional actions in foreign countries and locally, and poison, kill, or maim people without recourse. If the people that owned businesses were actually held responsible for their actions, a lot of the Forbes 500 list CEOs would be behind bars and possibly put to death. 'OK,' you're saying, 'So what the fuck does this have to do with anything?' The concept of the exclusivity contract is derived from the mindset of the corporation or business: it protects the business's ends at the expense of the Djs and the scene's best interests. For DJs, they are held into performing only at specific locales and are seriously limited in the venues, events, and opportunities they can participate in although the idea of having a steady paycheck is nice. The same can be said about doctors, general laborers, and just about any other profession that has similar exclusivity contracts. The scene, likewise, suffers because it is limited in the fluidity of talent and in the ability to spontaneously create new events that are crucial for its own longevity. So there are two perspectives on the issue: exclusivity contracts are great for businesses because they can capitalize on a DJs popularity and make cash. Exclusivity contracts are horrible for the general populace and the scene because it cages what should be the free expression of creativity and contributes to the gradual decay of what should be more of an artistic community than a business venture. Which one is right? I would argue the latter because it has been shown time and again that businesses that act only with their own ends in mind are more destructive than beneficial for almost everyone, their own employees and managers alike. Furthermore, if you think of a corporation as an actual human being, a person who only acts with his or her own ends in mind is a fucking jerk and should be treated as such. So circus djs aren't allowed to play at stereobar. Way to go, pal. Way to think of the situation with only your self-serving interests in mind. Paix. |
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| Originally posted by Tag Couldn't disagree more. Last I checked afterhours and clubs were around for two reasons. Make money for their owners and provide a service to their clients. Any decision that effects the clients, is very much THEIR business. Sorry louis but the ONLY reason you have a job is because of paying customers, don't forget that. |
Mais ce n'est pas comme si c'est ici ou sur un autre forum que cette histoire est dabord sorti
Speculationnnnnn
speculatiooonnnnn
serious
you guys are taking this way too serious. it is nothing new.
when i am ripped and twisted after a long night at stereo there are no djs better than erick l and bruno brown for me to hear at stereobar. i never go to circus either so it will suck if they cant play stereobar anymore.
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 Speculationnnnnn speculatiooonnnnn |
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations what do you even mean by that? lol |
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| Its just that it is being discussed and nothing is really clear yet Thats why it shouldnt be on the boards etc |
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 LOUIS SAID: |
what r u editing?
Omg proportions are blown out of!
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 what r u editing? |
isch man 4 layers is heavy
im sure ur using transititions and fades too, that's whats killing the rendering
using any effects?
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 isch man 4 layers is heavy im sure ur using transititions and fades too, that's whats killing the rendering using any effects? |
what r u studying?
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 what r u studying? |
looks like fun man
concordia is where it's at if u wanna get into the media world
would love to see it when ur done!
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