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Posted by mezzir on Mar-30-2007 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
The movie was a spectacle. The story line is amazing

It was called the battle of Thermopylae and Frank Miller made the novel out of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_thermopylae

Who here had heard of this crazy ass tale before the movie trailers started appearing?

i had, knew it well already

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
When xerxes was threatening that no one will remember him, we get a striking thought...a graphic novelist 2400 years later turned it into a worldwide event.

The whole thing was done on a stage, and it was acted out like a play. Much like Scorcese's flick, Gangs of New York, it was supposed to be dramatic and hyped up and filled with speeches.

if its supposed to be dramatic, it really needed more of a plot. sure, i get that these guys are fighting for honor and shit, but there was absolutely no emotion attached to it. they should've done something like actually show in depth how they were defending their homeland. they made it look like these are just awesome bloodthirsty dudes and we're supposed to root for them etc

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
If they seemed long, remember these speeches were written along with painstakingly hand drawn frames for the novel.

If anyone has seen Berserk, youll realize the Manga was much more impressive than the movie. Its the nature of the medium. A life's work vs a directors project for a few years.

It was intense in color, sound, visuals, and historical accuracy. Xerxes tent conveyed the occult nature very well and his gay hands on Leonidas' shoulders was supposed to be gay and really uncomfortable.

It seems to me making the claim that its a shitty movie because its loud is like hating a rock concert for the same reason.

Its supposed to be?

i'm making the claim that its a shitty movie because its lacking all of the things that make a movie good. like a plot. and interesting, dynamic characters. historical accuracy is great and all, and so is being visually appealling, but if you want those two, make a documentary with reenactments
trying to make it into a feature length movie with a compelling and personal storyline just came across as a complete failure to me


Posted by bananas on Mar-30-2007 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Which was just as awful.

Now this is dumb statement.


Posted by bananas on Mar-30-2007 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
The movie was a spectacle. The story line is amazing

It was called the battle of Thermopylae and Frank Miller made the novel out of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_thermopylae

Who here had heard of this crazy ass tale before the movie trailers started appearing?

Everyone I think if they were going to history lessons :>


Posted by bas on Mar-30-2007 07:24:

I just liked all the fighting.


Posted by Project-K on Mar-30-2007 07:25:

I thought it was good. Not all movies need elaborate plots. They just need to be entertaining, and this one did the job well. I liked that it wasn't trying to be all epic and overdramatic all the time. Sure it had it's cheesy moments, and maybe a little too many slow-motion action scenes, but otherwise it delivered.


Posted by mezzir on Mar-30-2007 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
I thought it was good. Not all movies need elaborate plots. They just need to be entertaining, and this one did the job well. I liked that it wasn't trying to be all epic and overdramatic all the time. Sure it had it's cheesy moments, and maybe a little too many slow-motion action scenes, but otherwise it delivered.

sorry...what?
you sure we're talking about the same movie?
while there were scenes that weren't epic and overdramatic, those ones were just really fucking boring/pointless
hell even the fucking sex scene was epic as hell


Posted by Pheobius on Mar-30-2007 08:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Who here had heard of this crazy ass tale before the movie trailers started appearing?


The main reason I haven't seen this film yet is coz I've done a little classics, and while I respect artistic licence, when a plot is supposed to represent an actual real life event, it should at least try and be accurate.

The story of Leonidas and the 300 is one of histories best, but the more I hear bout this movie, the less I want to see it.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-30-2007 08:52:

Well you saw the movie after ytmnd ripped it to fucking pieces, so you were watching it thinking "hmm, I wonder how I can pick this apart to make it even funnier on the internet..." and you just sorta didn't let yourself enjoy it.

But yeah, it wasn't great or anything. :P

Good movie. Shitty film.


Posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ on Mar-30-2007 13:25:

a prime example of a blue screen movie... you cant expect much when its all shot in a studio. however i must admit the animation was better then i expected. sex scene well if your going to put a sex scene in there better be some fucking snatch or else you'll see some tiny ass tittys and sweaty man.


Posted by Slylee on Mar-30-2007 13:45:

quote:
Originally posted by weymouth
if anything the movie made me hit the weights again


lol


Posted by AndreaCKY772 on Mar-30-2007 13:55:

during the sex scene, people were laughing.

with my screenwriting skills, i would've turned that scene into a better one! tasteful but not lame.


Posted by RJT on Mar-30-2007 13:57:

Re: The 300 (i know, enough already)

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
k so i finally saw it yesterday, and if i'm remembering correctly, almost everyone on here loved it. i give that one big
honestly, it was one of the worst movies i've seen in a long long time. last movie i saw that was actually worse? war of the worlds, although the 300 gives it a run for its money.
this movie had the most half-hearted plot i've seen, even for an action movie. there was no emotion fueling the action, and especially with leonidas' unexplainable scottish accent, every speech he gave seemed like he just saw braveheart and decided to go play william wallace with his friends
lol and don't even get me started on the sex scene at the beginning, that was without a doubt the most gratuitous, pointless, and fucking epic sex scene i've seen in a while, and that's not a good thing

so seriously, to the people who saw this and liked it, what did you see in it? i'm honestly baffled


Pretty much sounds like exactly what I'd expect - loads of people love it, but I guarantee I'd be bored to piss by the entire affair.

Thrilled I haven't wasted my time or money on this one.


Posted by stren on Mar-30-2007 14:20:

Re: Re: The 300 (i know, enough already)

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Thrilled I haven't wasted my time or money on this one.


lol, you don't need much be thrilled


Posted by RJT on Mar-30-2007 14:21:

Re: Re: Re: The 300 (i know, enough already)

quote:
Originally posted by stren
lol, you don't need much be thrilled


Simple pleasures, m8, simple pleasures.


Posted by mezzir on Mar-30-2007 14:31:

Re: Re: The 300 (i know, enough already)

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Pretty much sounds like exactly what I'd expect - loads of people love it, but I guarantee I'd be bored to piss by the entire affair.

Thrilled I haven't wasted my time or money on this one.


yeah me too (streaming ftw, i'm SO fucking glad i didn't spend money on seeing it)


Posted by Orbax on Mar-30-2007 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Pheobius
The main reason I haven't seen this film yet is coz I've done a little classics, and while I respect artistic licence, when a plot is supposed to represent an actual real life event, it should at least try and be accurate.

The story of Leonidas and the 300 is one of histories best, but the more I hear bout this movie, the less I want to see it.


lol why, it might ruin history for you?

and seriously, the plot would have ruined it. If they started throwing in car crashes and a bank robbery and his wife was actually the persian queen and then al pacino is their dad and yet hes gay aND OMG The plots so TWISSSTYYYYY

that has nothing to do with the story. It wasnt written that way, it was dudes who are raised from birth to fight. Then they hear of an overwhelming force. Only 300 dudes who believed in the old way of you just fight. You dont think about it, you dont whine about it, you go to fight and win.

Why does there need to be a plot to fight for your homeland? That is the plot. Its implied.


Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-30-2007 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
lol why, it might ruin history for you?

and seriously, the plot would have ruined it. If they started throwing in car crashes and a bank robbery and his wife was actually the persian queen and then al pacino is their dad and yet hes gay aND OMG The plots so TWISSSTYYYYY

that has nothing to do with the story. It wasnt written that way, it was dudes who are raised from birth to fight. Then they hear of an overwhelming force. Only 300 dudes who believed in the old way of you just fight. You dont think about it, you dont whine about it, you go to fight and DIE!.

Why does there need to be a plot to fight for your homeland? That is the plot. Its implied.



fix.


after watching it you will get the feeling that they tried to stay accurate and succeeded in it more than other movies.


Posted by Orbax on Mar-30-2007 16:01:

Its just weird. I dont think its wrong to not LIKE it, but claiming there are no appreciable qualities to this is out of control.

If you are into film, you really should be able to get more out of every one of them instead of being a negative nancy elitist about the platonic form of a perfect film and hating everything that deviates from it.


Posted by mezzir on Mar-30-2007 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Its just weird. I dont think its wrong to not LIKE it, but claiming there are no appreciable qualities to this is out of control.

If you are into film, you really should be able to get more out of every one of them instead of being a negative nancy elitist about the platonic form of a perfect film and hating everything that deviates from it.


i'm not saying it derives from the form of a perfect film or anything
i'm simply saying that, in the course of watching, other than pretty visuals (most of which i'd already seen ad nauseum in the previews and commercials), there was really nothing that held my attention
it was honestly just boring and uninteresting to me, and especially after i'd heard everyone hyping it so much, it was an incredible letdown
i mean hell, as far as recent action movies go, in my opinion apocalypto was far far better


Posted by Spike on Mar-30-2007 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
lol why, it might ruin history for you?

and seriously, the plot would have ruined it. If they started throwing in car crashes and a bank robbery and his wife was actually the persian queen and then al pacino is their dad and yet hes gay aND OMG The plots so TWISSSTYYYYY

that has nothing to do with the story. It wasnt written that way, it was dudes who are raised from birth to fight. Then they hear of an overwhelming force. Only 300 dudes who believed in the old way of you just fight. You dont think about it, you dont whine about it, you go to fight and win.

Why does there need to be a plot to fight for your homeland? That is the plot. Its implied.


couldnt agreee with you more. ppl need to chill out and relax and just enjoy the movie for what it is


Posted by darouge11 on Mar-30-2007 20:28:

Yo they're spartans....there not supposed to have emotion...


Posted by nrjizer on Mar-31-2007 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
lol why, it might ruin history for you?

and seriously, the plot would have ruined it. If they started throwing in car crashes and a bank robbery and his wife was actually the persian queen and then al pacino is their dad and yet hes gay aND OMG The plots so TWISSSTYYYYY

that has nothing to do with the story. It wasnt written that way, it was dudes who are raised from birth to fight. Then they hear of an overwhelming force. Only 300 dudes who believed in the old way of you just fight. You dont think about it, you dont whine about it, you go to fight and win.

Why does there need to be a plot to fight for your homeland? That is the plot. Its implied.


Anyone with a decent knowledge of history and half a shred of observational reasoning should have been able to deduce from the previews alone that 300 is a stylized, dramatized, comic book-esque movie based on a real event. If they are going to let historical inaccuracies ruin the movie for them, then why the fuck did they go see it in the first place? It's not going to be a fucking documentary. What were you expecting?


Posted by Saka on Mar-31-2007 10:39:


Posted by Spike on Mar-31-2007 13:47:

LoL brilliant!


Posted by Cloud on Mar-31-2007 14:02:

I liked the movie, but i never understood why it became so popular in America and the rest of Europe. I wouldn't enjoy it that much if i didn't know greek history.


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