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Originally posted by echosystm I see a lot more people with mediocre setups signed to major labels than I do gear whores. I'm sure most here can agree on that. Food for thought.

+1

I think a lot of the older prodcuers like armin , marco v and ,arcel woods etc had to use hardware in they're day ass software didn;t cut it so they have a lot of equipment. Now a days though soft synths rock almost as closely as hardware so most of the new guys breaking into the scene will probs be software only. like me

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Originally posted by Low Profile if that is true, that you actually heard a considerable difference, your old interface was seriously faulty...

Absolute rubbish...

why is everyone arguing about proper monitors being essential? they are...

as someone who hasn't had the luxury of producing on a proper studio setup its terrible not to have good monitors...and you can't produce anything meaningful without them. sure you can sequence a song and get a general layout, but you have no way of knowing exactly what your sounds sound like. going over to my friends studio not too long ago...i was blown away with his sound...i agree with the people saying first update needs to be soundcard and monitors...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller and you can't produce anything meaningful without them.

I'm thinking you chose your words a bit wrong there but that most certainly is not true...

My friend uses a pair of Sony speakers ripped off a mini hifi along with onboard sound, but would still pwn most of the gear whores on this forum on production/mix quality lol :P

all i'm saying is if i try and make a song on my crappy soundcard and speakers....i burn a copy after i think i'm getting somewhere and listen to it on a different system...BAM...sounds totally different than i thought it does. levels are all whacked...sounds are pitchy. that's no way to go about making professional music. you need at least some improved sound gear so you know exactly what you're working with. i can't wait to update my setup with those things...i know it'll improve my productivity 10 fold...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller all i'm saying is if i try and make a song on my crappy soundcard and speakers....i burn a copy after i think i'm getting somewhere and listen to it on a different system...BAM...sounds totally different than i thought it does. levels are all whacked...sounds are pitchy. that's no way to go about making professional music. you need at least some improved sound gear so you know exactly what you're working with. i can't wait to update my setup with those things...i know it'll improve my productivity 10 fold...

What you say makes sense, except for the last line. I've heard that one too often with regards to some piece of kit somebody doesn't have.

Anyway, decent speakers are a must.

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Originally posted by Pjotr G What you say makes sense, except for the last line. I've heard that one too often with regards to some piece of kit somebody doesn't have. Anyway, decent speakers are a must.

the only reason i say that is because when those things happen i basically get frustrated and stop working. once i can alleviate that frustration...i feel...at least for myself...i'll be able to improve my work flow and finish projects. i have a lot of unfinished things on hold until i can afford the update. i just don't really feel like i can provide any kind of polish without them...

i know for a fact that i could spend �2000 on a moog voyager and instantly my sound would improve 1,000,000 times. no software synth can match that bass warmth.

my ideal system would consist a nord lead, a voyager and a ssl duende. all running into a logic based apple.

this would cost just over �6000 but i know i would need nothing else for production of my music.

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Originally posted by richg101 i know for a fact that i could spend �2000 on a moog voyager and instantly my sound would improve 1,000,000 times. no software synth can match that bass warmth. my ideal system would consist a nord lead, a voyager and a ssl duende. all running into a logic based apple. this would cost just over �6000 but i know i would need nothing else for production of my music.

o rlys?

I think at the end of the day its all about getting to know the equipment you have or maybe dont in some cases.

I have quite alot of pretty decent hardware and also software but I can honestly say that I dont fully know / understand how to use yet and YES, I might have all this gear but its pretty dam useless until I know what the hell I'm doing.

I have just pused a few bits to the side and am learing from the start because I was getting nowhere until recently when I realished that all i'm doing is gettin lost trying to do things that I just dont understand yet.

All I can say is I agree with getting a pretty decent basic setup - AI, monitors and a good sequencer but keep things simple and learn what you have got and then you can start to expand on the equipment you have and you will know more about how to use these things.

hope this helps

fearny

all you need is knoweledge, and love...man.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja Yes, you need to.

Assinine answer, IMHO, WADR... edit: oh wait. I geddit. you were making funny! Oh, in that case LOL!

As someone who at one point had about $33K worth of equipment, I must admit to being COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY OVERWHELMED by sheer complexity of the set up. I spent most of the time running cables, wiring midi, figuring out set up issues, diagraming configuration, planning next synth hook up, figuring out how to controll all this mess.

nah. I'm reducing my footprint as we speak. My latest philosophy - master your instrument. most of modern synths have AN IMMENSE and nearly INFINITE number of sonic possibilities. You need to feel using it as comfortable as you are using your hands.

Spending thousands on gear will not make you a better musician. It will make you frustrated, unhappy, and eventually may even force you to give up doing music all together. It's nice to have bunch of shiny toys but in the end it comes down to:

1. Can you play the instruments you got to their fullest extent?
2. Can you translate your ideas into music by using the tools you have?
3. Do you spend time making music or tinkering around with gear?

my choices were sooo over-abundant, it made something I enjoyed in the beginning very unenjoyable. I've tried and tested just about 90% of synths available today. In the end I have come to realization that none of that would make you a star and none of that will help you get your ideas across.

As a matter of fact, limiting your choices is what resulted in some of the greatest music - by having limits, you overcome them with creativity, not with tinker bells and toys.

So, get software, MASTER IT. Then you'll see what else you need to fill the gap. Having thousands of dollars of gear sitting around doing nothing, while you figure out how to program one synth is a waste and will lead to nothing but frustration and eventual surrender.

from interview with Liam Howlett of Prodigy:

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A six year hiatus, why? - Well it wasn't a conscious decision or a plan, really; it just happened. We knew there would be downtime after The Fat of the Land - we felt we had reached the pinnacle of what Prodigy was, and I myself had my mind set on taking a couple of years off. And then time just flew by, know what I mean? About 2 years ago I started working again, but soon realized I needed to shift myself out of the formula I'd gotten into from working in the same environment all the time. I'd written everything in Cubase from 1993 onwards, with a bunch of hardware synths and Akai samplers as my main setup. I sat down and I thought, "well... this is just so boring. How can I ever get inspired doing the same old thing? How am I gonna write a fresh, inspired album? I'm not enjoying it, it's not going anywhere, I hate my studio, I hate all the equipment in it." For a man with a hardware gear list the size of a small town phone directory, that's a lot of equipment to hate. Liam's winding road through the world of music making is one which many of his generation can relate to; he started out with a simple 4-track portastudio and turntables in the 1980's, soon got into synthesizers, and eventually found himself using a Roland W-30 workstation with a whopping 16 seconds worth of sampling time. The entire first album, The Prodigy Experience, was created on just this one keyboard. As the royalties started rolling in, so did the gear - and soon enough Liam found himself immersed in a machine park with enough electronics to fill a space cruiser. But, as anyone who's been-there-done-that will know, that can be more of a curse than a blessing.

source:
http://www.propellerheads.se/news/a...article=prodigy

best thing you can get is decent monitors, then you can work around that

I say good monitoring + soundcard with some decent ad/da - and a decent computer - Nothing is more annoying than running a underpowered computer while trying to make music.

And I totaly agree with emc^2. Some people can't handle too many synths, and thy end up not making any music at all. Heaving few synths myself, my work flow is like this: - I turn one synth on and go from there. If I am stuck and can't achive what I am looking for, I turn on the other one. I use dieferent synths all the time, and I hardly have them all running at the same time anymore.

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