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-- NOOB here, is it koshur to use a 180bpm tune on a 144bpm set?
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Originally posted by Fledz But would it sound good? Surely the melodies would clash?

uff...

if the tunes are in dimensions of 2 (bpm wise) you'd not have a problem...(and clashing melodies have to do much more with harmonic mixing than this)

let me show you...

the first tune is playing at 65bpm
the second is at 130 bpm

what would happen if they were both the classic 4 to the floor rythm?


k---k---k---k---k---k---k---k
k-------k-------k-----------k

its just a matter of this...
errrm it's not exact

but basically what you'd to match these two would be that for one bar of the 2times faster one you'd play two bars of the slower...

or is it other way? damn I got lost in it now...sorry I resign!

Fair enough. I honestly can't imagine it being any good but hey, who knows.

let me make an example with two loops

....

Actually, this is done quite a lot within the hardcore scene (not the cheesy hardcore trance scene but the underground hardcore techno/breakcore scene).

DJ's such as Hellfish and Producer have been dropping 90bpm hip-hip tracks onto 180bpm hardcore tunes for ages now and it sounds fucking amazing - if you like that kind of thing....

ok there we are in the example I used two loops the first two bars is a 130 bpm house loop the second two bars are an rnb loop.

Then they play together...without any problem (I didn't bother EQing it or anything so you can clearly hear what's going on.

http://djbooster.ohost.de/bpmtrick.mp3

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Originally posted by BOOsTER ok there we are in the example I used two loops the first two bars is a 130 bpm house loop the second two bars are an rnb loop. Then they play together...without any problem (I didn't bother EQing it or anything so you can clearly hear what's going on. http://djbooster.ohost.de/bpmtrick.mp3

Doesn't sound too bad. I see what you mean

But how does that help with 180 into 144?

144 to 180 it can't help I was more reffering to the post where someone mentioned this...

sometimes it just helps to make the range you have to pitch a bit smaller...

like lets say 100 to 180...
so you would match one like it was 200 and then match it to 180 which would make your change of the pitch less.

Re: NOOB here, is it koshur to use a 180bpm tune on a 144bpm set?

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Originally posted by blinky13 since 180bpm is 1.25 times 144bpm every 4th beat will match...is this cool?

Try it. If it sounds good, it's koshur [sic], and if not, don't use it. Rather simple, really. Why would you want a bunch of idiots like us to tell you whether it's okay or not, when you can just try it?

Oh, and record it when you try it, and post it here.

did I say the bpm should be in dimensions of two? like 100 and two hundred?

or 80 and 160?

I think about ten times... :-/ damnit...

lol, what was the question again, I'm confused?

hahahaha

me too, sorry for causing part of the confusion here...

I have done this, where you double the tempo before...and it can definitely sound good. For example mixing hip-hop (90-100 bpm) and drum and bass (180-200 bpm) I used to do it a bunch. And it sounded good.

HOWEVER, 144-180, matching every fourth beat as the original poster said, would not work. The phrases would conflict. It might sound good if one of the tracks was either just beginning or just ending and was solely a kick beat and nothing else, but even then it'd be really weird. Maybe it wouldn't be too bad if you mixed very quickly and didn't leave both playing for long...but still.

I would definitely try it and see for yourself, but as I said originally - this will sound really strange.

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