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Originally posted by malek and post on TA during work hours!

Not everyone works during the day

LOL...Beats Mistress strikes again!

lol. ha ha.

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Originally posted by b4k-oz NOpe...no stereotype was intended. It was pretty much an agree or disagree and what do u think and what positive suggestions can we offer out there...for a happy work environment. That's about it.

I understand stereotyping was not your intention but it is inherent within your proposed "topic". I am not here to argue, and as you can see I related my thoughts on your topic - including the stereotype comment. As I too made stereotypical comments regarding Canadians because that is the direction your discussion brings.

In hindsight your discussion has nothing really to do with "Japanese work ethics" and could easily have been entitled "How to improve your work environment".

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Originally posted by Time2Burn In hindsight your discussion has nothing really to do with "Japanese work ethics" and could easily have been entitled "How to improve your work environment".

So true..but one also has to try to get the attention of the readers too...so I used the wording from an old 80's tune..thinking that it would get the attention. Instead...it turned into something that ppl felt like arguing about. Who knew?

In truth there was no intent to put down japanese, Americans or otherwise. And no need to suggest that canadians are lazy either. It was just a topic that came up in passing...and thought it would be a good convo...without the need to use directive words such as "you" or "likes of You" or STFU..or..some other non related smart ass comment.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Sounds like someone is complaining that they have to work hard, produce results and get things done...

Definitely agree.

The Japanese work hard because they take pride in their work and their designs. I try to follow a similar path.

Those who think one needs to suck up in order to succeed will likely never succeed. In order to work directly below upper management you need to be an advisor, and that means you need to be assertive, otherwise you're useless. And obviously, executives are executives because they are already highly assertive (none of this nonsense about nepotism or inheritance please - it happens, but rarely).

People can rationalize their negative attitudes toward work however they like. Personally, I work extra hours because my employers/clients expect excellent work from me, and it often takes more time than planned to deliver it. And like most people, sometimes they'll try to play games with me, but I stand up for myself, simple as that.

Edit... wanted to recognize this quote too:

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess ...everyone works for the next holiday.

So true, and I hear that so often especially on these forums. People even think it's some deep sophisticated philosophy, that they "work to live" instead of "living to work". While it's generally a bad idea to think of one's job as the primary determinant of one's identity and status in life, if you can't feel any pride for the work that you do then maybe you're in the wrong career or need some more skills.

What I can't tolerate the most is the people at work who can't mind there own business and want to games so they can get a power trip.

I think Canada has a pretty good work conditions on the most part. Some countries employers treat there workers like complete shit. Some people are just caught up in there old fashion mentality of the master and servant which still doesn't produce the results they want.

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Originally posted by b4k-oz NOpe...no stereotype was intended. It was pretty much an agree or disagree and what do u think and what positive suggestions can we offer out there...for a happy work environment. That's about it.

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Originally posted by b4k-oz Ok..was talking to a friend recently and we kinda agreed that all jobs here in Toronto feel like they apply Japanese work ethics

Sounds like stereotyping to me..

This is what stuck out for me and I struggle to see what it adds to a discussion regarding the Canadian workplace.

A negative work environment is only left to breed if all that is focused on is.. "What everyone else is getting"..

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Originally posted by She_Fitz A negative work environment is only left to breed if all that is focused on is.. "What everyone else is getting"..

that's a good way of looking at it.

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Originally posted by She_Fitz Sounds like stereotyping to me.. This is what stuck out for me and I struggle to see what it adds to a discussion regarding the Canadian workplace. A negative work environment is only left to breed if all that is focused on is.. "What everyone else is getting"..

Nope...no stereotyping. Just like everyone else that has ever played the role of a friend who can empathize...I was listening to my friend say this and agreeing...because my friend needed me to do that for him.

This site is so quick to pounce on ppl they don't really know.

I think your problem is just that you're a horrible communicator. This isn't the first time you've been misunderstood. The worst part about it is that you aren't even willing to examine why people are getting the wrong impression of what you're saying...instead you just lash out and accuse US of having the problem.

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Originally posted by jennypie I think your problem is just that you're a horrible communicator. This isn't the first time you've been misunderstood. The worst part about it is that you aren't even willing to examine why people are getting the wrong impression of what you're saying...instead you just lash out and accuse US of having the problem.

Jennypie---->Your problem is that you don't know me, and that's probably a good thing for the both of us. Peoples reputations travel fast in this community...and you above all others should look at yourself and your reputation, before you start passing judgement on someone like me.

I think I'm pretty lucky....cuz you were too drunk to remember me.

As for DijiNut, RJ and StereoPrincess, I've known them for some time...and there will always be a respect for them and their differences. In their eyes I'm sure they feel their reply in an open forum was done appropriately and respectfully. We don't always have to agree on everything, we just have to learn to respect one anothers and accept the differences that make us unique.

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Originally posted by b4k-oz Jennypie---->Your problem is that you don't know me, and that's probably a good thing for the both of us. Peoples reputations travel fast in this community...and you above all others should look at yourself and your reputation, before you start passing judgement on someone like me. I think I'm pretty lucky....cuz you were too drunk to remember me.

Actually I do remember you. I haven't passed any judgement on you. I simply said you're a horrible communicator, which you are. And I don't really give two flying fucks about my "reputation".


Anyways, good luck with the job search, lol.

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Originally posted by She_Fitz A negative work environment is only left to breed if all that is focused on is.. "What everyone else is getting"..

i strongly agree. negative thinking and its effect on our perceptions are like a vicious circle... feeding eachother.

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Originally posted by jennypie Actually I do remember you. I haven't passed any judgement on you. I simply said you're a horrible communicator, which you are. And I don't really give two flying fucks about my "reputation". Anyways, good luck with the job search, lol.

No...even though you think you do..you definately don't remember me. Nor do you know me or what I'm about. If you'd of known me, then you'd be aware that I'm not job searching. But then someone like you would throw in a comment like that. Why don't you try the next person that cares what you have to say. I don't. I'd rather not waste my time with a person that posts to antagonize ppl in an immature way.

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Originally posted by b4k-oz No...even though you think you do..you definately don't remember me.

Really? Are you in charge of my memories? Because I definitely remember meeting you at System, and at Gallery as well.

hahaha

you were so drunk that you don't even remember we gave you a ride. After System It was then that we decided...we would never give you a ride ever again.

Oh and you never met me at the Gallery. Good try though.

enuf said

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