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Posted by kitphillips on May-08-2007 06:55:

Lol
1/ all soundcards have latency
2/ sound blaster are NOT top of the line and hence have even more latency than most sound cards.
3/ sample rate has nothing to do with latency, most soundcards have a setting called buffer or latency which you can lower
4/ Please explain what you mean about synths? Are you trying to route MIDI out of cubase and into a hardware synth, or trying to route midi out of your keyboard...?


Posted by echosystm on May-08-2007 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by costizzle
i have a soundblaster soundcard and its pretty top of the line yet when i connect my midi controller to it and try to run sounds off my synth and synth sounds in cubase it lags when i press the keys. i heard about latency and put my sample rate all the way down but that doesnt seem to help...any suggestions?


Dude, I already told you what you have to do in the thread you started specifically for this issue.

Your audio buffer is too long, you need to shorten it.

Sorry to dissapoint, but soundblasters are far from top of the line, infact theyre basically bottom of the line . If you want to get any decent performance out of it, you need to install an ASIO driver. ASIO is a low latency sound driver basically... Seeing as soundblasters don't come with an official ASIO driver, you need to download and install ASIO4ALL. Google it


Posted by echosystm on May-08-2007 06:56:

$10 says this guy is rubez?


Posted by kitphillips on May-08-2007 06:57:

Mwa ha I got to laugh at the newbie first


Posted by echosystm on May-08-2007 06:58:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Mwa ha I got to laugh at the newbie first


Yeah... but my post count is still 6 inches longer than yours


Posted by kitphillips on May-08-2007 07:06:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
$10 says this guy is rubez?

Lol, just read that other thread he posterd, obviously new, but still, quite polite compared to rubez... Costizzle, do yourself and everyone else a favour and read the stickies, then read the manual. Once you do this, if it is still unclear what is going on, nothing anyone here says can help you.


Posted by Omega_Blue on May-08-2007 12:18:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Dude, I already told you what you have to do in the thread you started specifically for this issue.

Your audio buffer is too long, you need to shorten it.

Sorry to dissapoint, but soundblasters are far from top of the line, infact theyre basically bottom of the line . If you want to get any decent performance out of it, you need to install an ASIO driver. ASIO is a low latency sound driver basically... Seeing as soundblasters don't come with an official ASIO driver, you need to download and install ASIO4ALL. Google it


i've used ASIO4ALL and it doesn't seem to make a difference in latency. i still get clicks and pops in FL studio if i have too many VSTs running at once and guitar rig still lags like a bitch. is that because i'm using a cheap-ass SB USB card, or is my comp not good enough? (AMD 3400+ 64bit processor, 1gb RAM)


Posted by kitphillips on May-08-2007 13:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i've used ASIO4ALL and it doesn't seem to make a difference in latency. i still get clicks and pops in FL studio if i have too many VSTs running at once and guitar rig still lags like a bitch. is that because i'm using a cheap-ass SB USB card, or is my comp not good enough? (AMD 3400+ 64bit processor, 1gb RAM)


So many issues here, I think we already discussed ASIO4ALL and snap crackle and pop in this thread, so read back for that, short version: no ASIO4ALL won't help. Yes the soundblaster is crap, upgrading would help... maybe... a bit.
Your computer should be good enough too, but your expecting too much out of a computer to expect to play a live guitar in and use that as an amp modeller. Forget about this, it won't work atm, maybe not ever. I've been and tried, buy a hardware amp modeller.


Posted by Storyteller on May-08-2007 14:05:

With a decent soundcard this definetely is possible.

NI guitar rig should be right for the job.


Posted by Omega_Blue on May-08-2007 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
So many issues here, I think we already discussed ASIO4ALL and snap crackle and pop in this thread, so read back for that, short version: no ASIO4ALL won't help. Yes the soundblaster is crap, upgrading would help... maybe... a bit.
Your computer should be good enough too, but your expecting too much out of a computer to expect to play a live guitar in and use that as an amp modeller. Forget about this, it won't work atm, maybe not ever. I've been and tried, buy a hardware amp modeller.


appreciated for the info. i guess i could always save up for a line6 POD or something.

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
With a decent soundcard this definetely is possible.

NI guitar rig should be right for the job.


care to elaborate? the poster before you just said it won't work..


Posted by costizzle on May-09-2007 05:03:

1. thanks for replying

2. you guys dont need to be hatin on the newbie, i just dont know much about this stuff so i asked, you cant blame me.

3. i dont know what stickies are so please explain.

4. my sound card is legit and has an asio driver in it. but i just dont know how to work it all. i have a fast computer just for some reason it lags, im trying to get the sound bank from my midi controller/synth into cubase so i can record those sounds.


Posted by kitphillips on May-09-2007 07:51:

quote:
Originally posted by costizzle
1. thanks for replying

2. you guys dont need to be hatin on the newbie, i just dont know much about this stuff so i asked, you cant blame me.

3. i dont know what stickies are so please explain.

4. my sound card is legit and has an asio driver in it. but i just dont know how to work it all. i have a fast computer just for some reason it lags, im trying to get the sound bank from my midi controller/synth into cubase so i can record those sounds.


1. Your welcome

2. I wasn't hating, more just laughing your question was pretty funny

3. Stickies are the threads at the top of the production studio forum

4. your sound card is not legit for serious audio work. It will work for you for now, but you shouldn't say its "top of the line" that was really what I was laughing about, it looks quite ignorant to say anything is "top of the line", look up the digidesign or apogee websites to see close to "top of the line" and it goes higher than that too. You will always have serious "lag" (called latency) on a soundblaster card. Fact.


Posted by echosystm on May-09-2007 10:15:

Yeah, costizzle, sound blasters are top of the consumer line. not top of the music making line. your sound blaster probably cost $100-200, average music production soundcards cost about $400, with some going up to $1,000

Now, you need to listen, because we have told you already man. Turn down the BUFFER LENGTH. Buffer length is NOT bit depth or sample rate. Look it up in the manual for your sound card, I dont think anyone here would be familiar with the ASIO control panel for sound blasters... if they even have one!


Posted by costizzle on May-09-2007 17:16:

i shall look into this stuff. thanks echo.


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