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Posted by Frenchie on Apr-23-2007 17:39:

I can't be bothered to read the posts in here so if what I say is a "repost" fuck you all

IMO, there really is no need for jealousy, ever. It happens to some but is it really necessary? If you, no if the both of you, have trust in the relationship then the jealousy bug should not be biting either of you.

The fact that you have never gotten it , up until now, is a good thing. I guess some people look at it as, " You're jealous that means you care, because if you didn't get jealous that means you couldn't care less who your boyfriend talks to yadda yadda yadda", I don't. Both my serious boyfriends and even the little flings on the side had mostly female friends or was just around a lot of women and there were always women flirting with him and/or ignoring me. So, what there will always be women who will be into your boyfriend and skeeses who don't care they he has a girlfriend, that's just something a woman is going to have to deal with unfortunately.

For the guys who say, " OMG I want to bash the face of the guy my girlfriend talks to in the club" grow up, seriously. If you don't want them talking to her than she should know better and not just stay there and chatting up with them.


Posted by AndreaCKY772 on Apr-23-2007 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
well put, although this is much easier to say when you're in a secure relationship and have been for a while



thanks. yeah, that is true too...


i used to be best friends with this girl who was VERY insecure. every boyfriend she had, if she saw another hot girl walk by her boyfriend, she would STARE at him until the girl passed (to make sure he didn't look). or she would get mad instantly if she found out he was talking to another chick that she didn't know... even if he and the other girl weren't flirting.

that type of behavior will make YOU look stupid in the end and only shows that you are not very confident.


Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-23-2007 19:16:

Yea, I half wonder if perhaps I have a little bit of insecurity surfacing. In my last real relationship, it was also my first... I didn't have the experience of needing to feel concerned about other girls.

However, now that I know after the fact that I was cheated on several times, etc. I wonder if sub-conciously I am worried it will happen again.

The thing is, is that I really trust my boy. He has never given me a reason to be worried about what he's doing, and I feel confident that the type of guy he is will prevent him from making stupid decisions like that.

Hmmmm.. I dunno


Posted by denys envy on Apr-23-2007 19:30:


Posted by Caela on Apr-23-2007 19:31:

it all comes down to how much you trust your boy.

my last relationship...not so great, trust was gone...so i became a VERY jealous girlfriend who was paranoid all the time (which later proved to be for good reason).

it seems like your guy handled it well by putting his hand on you while talking to her, and giving other hints that he was not going to stray.

i have been AMAZED how low a girl will stoop to hook up with a guy that's taken. that's one thing i have vowed to myself never to do...and i have certainly kept my promise. subtle flirting (girl hitting on your guy) is incredibly annoying but most of the time it's harmless and at the end of the day, you have your man and she doesn't. however, if it crosses the line on her end, you have every right to call her out on it. i find that a lot of girls that act like they can hit on ANY GUY (taken or not) just have yet to be put in their place.


Posted by l�cid on Apr-23-2007 19:31:

T, were you in a bad mood before this happened? i can be a very jealous person sometimes, but it usually only comes out when i'm in a bad mood or i'm feeling upset about something else totally unrelated. if i'm having a good time and i'm happy, it doesn't phase me one bit.

yeah, i'm totally psychotic when it comes to getting jealous. sometimes i'll flip out in my mind over the tiniest shit and i have to tell myself to calm down and chill out and not make a scene, lol. other times i'm totally chill about it, like nothing could bother me.


Posted by emc^2 on Apr-23-2007 19:40:

Jealousy is a natural progression from insecurity. Could be something minor or bad. Like you just noticed your first cellulite dimple. Or he cracked a smart-a$$ comment you didn't understand. Maybe he commented about your hair... or your clothes. You stand there totally clueless and confused why he pulled out of her (noticeably smaller hips and obviously tighter enclave) and then sprayed his man juice in your face! And then wiped his freshly used member with your Prada shirt!

You know - that can definitely put a ding into your trust and cause doubts to set in. Evaluate your situation and main thing - don't overreact.. Just COOK and CHILL.


Posted by RJT on Apr-23-2007 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
T, were you in a bad mood before this happened? i can be a very jealous person sometimes, but it usually only comes out when i'm in a bad mood or i'm feeling upset about something else totally unrelated. if i'm having a good time and i'm happy, it doesn't phase me one bit.

yeah, i'm totally psychotic when it comes to getting jealous. sometimes i'll flip out in my mind over the tiniest shit and i have to tell myself to calm down and chill out and not make a scene, lol. other times i'm totally chill about it, like nothing could bother me.


You just relax - you've got nothing to be jealous about

Me, on the other hand, well - let's just say it's good that "Thou Shalt not Covet thy Girlfriends Car" is not one of the commandments!


Posted by stren on Apr-23-2007 19:52:

obviously, he's cheating on you, leave him


Posted by l�cid on Apr-23-2007 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
You just relax - you've got nothing to be jealous about

i was speaking generally... not neccesarily about you or our relationship. it's just how i've always been - a little psychotic but not out of control!

lol @ stren... YOU CANT HAVE HIM!


Posted by RJT on Apr-23-2007 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
it's just how i've always been - a little psychotic but not out of control!





Posted by Perfect_Cheezit on Apr-23-2007 20:41:

Be really careful with the way you handle jealousy and the way you rationalize it.

I dated a girl that I was completely in love with for over a year, and in the end, it was her uncontrollable jealousy that utterly destroyed the relationship. Shit sucked.

Things like..
"I do trust you, I really do, I just get nervous sometimes"
"I won't control you, but I just really feel uncomfortable etc"

are completely normal things to say. But with the first one, it's not a lack of trust usually that is driving the jealousy, it's a sense of insecurity which is irrational, unless the person you're dating is scum. The second is just a blanket statement. Nobody who is normal will ever say "Im going to control who you can hang out with" and nobody who is normal would ever tolerate it. So I guess just be careful in the way you treat the times you get jealous. Try not to justify it, unless you know he's cheating on you or something, because justifying it will feed into it.


Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-23-2007 20:50:

We had just had dinner, and both of us had stuffed ourselves so much that we were feeling like shit (all you can eat buffets are evil). Both of us were a little cranky, and neither of us were really feeling the bar vibe.

Like I said though, he hasn't given me reason not to trust him. He is always telling me how much I am the perfect girl for him, and how much he cares about me. I don't mistrust him.

I think with this girl clearly flirting with him, and having totally snubbed me, I was feeling... defensive? Almost a catty side of me came out. She touched his shoulder and I was thinking to myself "get your pretty little fingers off of him before I break them off for you."

I told him how I didn't like her later, and he laughed, hugged me and said "baby, I don't want that stupid bitch. I want you. You never need to worry because you will always be the one leaving with me." That made me all mushy with him, but I still wanted to punch that chick out.


Posted by l�cid on Apr-23-2007 20:53:

best thing to do in situations like that is to act all nice and sweet even if the girl is being a complete whore. most girls are all fucking weird and competitive, and if she sees that it bothers you, she'll feel good about herself... but if you act like a total carefree sweetheart, she'll probably be the one who walks away feeling insecure.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Apr-23-2007 20:54:

Not being funny here, but jealousy to me is a sign of insecurity. If every girl I went out with got the hump when I spoke to another female other then her family and friends, I'd walk.

Theresa it's good you've not reacted, acting in a rational way if you threw a jealous strop then it's not good. It's all about trust and relaxing at the end of the day, regardless if this bird likes him he probably thinks exact opposite. If you show it won't bother you it's get points.


Posted by Frenchie on Apr-23-2007 20:58:

You clearly need to relax.
To be honest it's that girl who should be jealous of you not the other way around. YOU'RE with him not her, YOU'RE going home with him not her, YOU'RE the one he thinks of at night not her. Just because she touched him, doesn't mean you should get all , what's that word, pissed off? Big deal she touched him. Why should she pay attention to you? She's a fuckin' bitch to do that so bluntly in front of you but hey, that's what catty jealous women do. She's also the type where if the rolls were reversed and you were flirting with him and he was her boyfriend she'd be all in your face saying "THAT'S MY MAN BITCH, BACK OFF." So IMO you handled it well and classy with just brushing it off.

I would be concerned though if my boyfriend was constantly reminding me of how perfect I am and constantly telling me he only wants to be with me and I'm the only one for him. Yes it's nice to hear it, who doesn't want to hear that, it would just make me sick of hearing it and question myself what I did or say to have him need to remind meand him say that allll the time and WHY he feels that he has to.


Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-23-2007 20:58:

I tried to ignore it because I didn't like watching her trying to throw herself at him, so I turned away and started talking to a friend of mine who was there.

The only way I would have done/said something is if she had crossed the line... which is hard for me to describe, but I know when the line has been crossed. Then I would tell the little cretin that she best be finding someone else's boyfriend to skank it up with.


Posted by Slylee on Apr-23-2007 21:03:

sometimes i do, but i don't get all psycho about it. i usually make a joke of my jealousy to my partner, rather than act on it seriously. i guess it's just my way of dealing with it and i get a much better reaction than if i were to get all seriously jealous and cause a fight over it.


Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-23-2007 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
You clearly need to relax.
To be honest it's that girl who should be jealous of you not the other way around. YOU'RE with him not her, YOU'RE going home with him not her, YOU'RE the one he thinks of at night not her. Just because she touched him, doesn't mean you should get all , what's that word, pissed off? Big deal she touched him. Why should she pay attention to you? She's a fuckin' bitch to do that so bluntly in front of her but hey, that's what catty jealous women do. She's also the type where if the rolls were reversed and you were flirting with him and he was her boyfriend she'd be all in your face saying "THAT'S MY MAN BITCH, BACK OFF." So IMO you handled it well and classy with just brushing it off.

I would be concerned though if my boyfriend was constantly reminding me of how perfect I am and constantly telling me he only wants to be with me and I'm the only one for him. Yes it's nice to hear it, who doesn't want to hear that, it would just make me sick of hearing it and question myself what I did or say to have to have him say that allll the time and WHY he feels that he has to.


Well it isn't like he says it constantly... but he says it enough that I get the message without feeling like it's contrived drivel.

She didn't JUST touch him, she hugged him, asked him why he doesn't come to visit her, ignored me, and layed the skank charm on pretty thick. If she had ONLY touched him, I wouldn't have given a shit.. it was the entire little show she put on, trying to entice him. It irritated me.

Meh, after thinking about it, I don't really think it's jealousy, because jealousy would suggest that I am fearing the rivalry or concerned of him being unfaithful, which neither was the case. I think what really bugged me was the disrespect and bitchy attitude of the girl. The blatent dismissal of me, and the fact that he was with me was what was aggravating. She was clearly trying to start shit. THAT is what pissed me off.


Posted by Frenchie on Apr-23-2007 21:14:

None of us were there so none of us can really tell you how it went down but are you sure you're not over exaggerating a tiny bit? I know a lot of guys, with girlfriends, who hug their female friends so that shouldn't have set you off. As for " why don't you come and visit me? ", do you not allow him to visit female friends?'( but yes I would understand why YOU would feel upset about it) The ignoring you part was a pretty bitchy move but I wouldn't expect a girl who is flirting with my boyfriend to acknowledge me instead I would bring myself in the convo or think my boyfriend would notice this and bring me into the conversation so I wouldn't feel left out. This would either piss her off and walk away or just get the picture and piss off.


Posted by tubularbills on Apr-24-2007 01:06:

Re: Jealousy....

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
...with my new boy....


wtf, you deserve to be jealous by saying that.


Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-24-2007 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
None of us were there so none of us can really tell you how it went down but are you sure you're not over exaggerating a tiny bit? I know a lot of guys, with girlfriends, who hug their female friends so that shouldn't have set you off. As for " why don't you come and visit me? ", do you not allow him to visit female friends?'( but yes I would understand why YOU would feel upset about it) The ignoring you part was a pretty bitchy move but I wouldn't expect a girl who is flirting with my boyfriend to acknowledge me instead I would bring myself in the convo or think my boyfriend would notice this and bring me into the conversation so I wouldn't feel left out. This would either piss her off and walk away or just get the picture and piss off.


No, I don't think I am exaggerating, because afterward he even said to me "I am surprised she was being so agressive with you standing there".

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
wtf, you deserve to be jealous by saying that.


Huh?


Posted by tubularbills on Apr-24-2007 04:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
No, I don't think I am exaggerating, because afterward he even said to me "I am surprised she was being so agressive with you standing there".



Huh?


does your new boy have a name?


Posted by Frenchie on Apr-24-2007 04:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
No, I don't think I am exaggerating, because afterward he even said to me "I am surprised she was being so aggressive with you standing there".





I didn't mean exaggerating as in how she acted I meant it as in YOU'RE over exaggerating as in your feelings towards this whole situation.


and ya, I'd be pretty upset if my boyfriend only referred to me as " my girl" instead of when talking about me said my name.


Posted by RandomGirl on Apr-24-2007 04:17:

Ohhh, well I call him my boy because none of you know his name. His name is Luke.

So from now on, I will say Luke... and if ANYONE asks who Luke is, I will kick some ass

And yea, I am over exaggerating my feelings now (breaking her fingers etc.), but in reality, I wasn't *that* angry... I was irritated.

LUKE.

LUKE LUKE LUKE!

LUKE!!!


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