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Originally posted by Ishkur And for what it's worth, minimalism as a musical concept and idea is at least 40 years older than trance. It's the one that has the staying power.

However, I think it's also safe to say that most of today's cliche "minimal" dance music doesn't really fit that musical concept.

Minimal dance music is nothing new. However, its popularity certainly is.

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Originally posted by distant Next Week: "Dubstep is a fad!"

What the fuck is dubstep?

Seems like alot of people who listen to minimal think their cool.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery What the fuck is dubstep?

[insert Mikey Mike smiley]

2 million Google results... and... nothing?

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Originally posted by distant [insert Mikey Mike smiley] 2 million Google results... and... nothing?

I don't really care that much that I would waste my time with something like that.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery What the fuck is dubstep?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHaCSMJfGUA

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't really care that much that I would waste my time with something like that.

What, like music?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't really care that much that I would waste my time with something like that.

Eh, to sum it up: An amalgamation of genres, mainly 2-step garage and dub. Most prominent features are, thus, subbass and breakbeats in various forms. Other than that, anything goes, which is why it has gained popularity within so many other scenes. Probably the biggest rising electronic genre today.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations What, like music?

Er... right.

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Originally posted by distant Eh, to sum it up: An amalgamation of genres, mainly 2-step garage and dub. Most prominent features are, thus, subbass and breakbeats in various forms. Other than that, anything goes, which is why it has gained popularity within so many other scenes. Probably the biggest rising electronic genre today.

No wonder I had no idea.

Sorry it's not prog breaks buddy.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Sorry it's not prog breaks buddy.

What?

i don't even know anymore... things are getting too specified.

i just wanna say fuck you

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't really care that much that I would waste my time with something like that.

Why are you asking then?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Why are you asking then?

I thought I could get at least something useful out of this worthless thread.

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Originally posted by Project-K The buzzword 'minimal' is gonna go away, but the music won't. It's not like this kind of music is new, it's been around for a long time, just under a bunch of different names.

exactly

shit, "minimal" has been around for as long as any other genre, and i don't think it's going anywhere. go to any club in germany and you'll see what i mean

That's it, you're all banned for a week. Including you Greg.

dang

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Originally posted by Allied Nations You are wrong. So so wrong.

Maybe I am but where's the fun in "beep, beep, ding ding, beep, beep" or whatever it is. To me, that's what minimal sounds like, it's the lack of elements and the simplicity. But to me, going out to a club or some festival and hearing a set full of that for what two hours with maybe some electro-house shit, is boooring as hell. People go out to have fun, enjoy themselves, and unless your in some lounge where really arty people go to who like things like modern art and poetry (I do) and just sit around and drink mixed drinks, then I don't see how minimal as a genre can really "rock a dance floor", as in make people jump up and have fun and dance. It's almost like dancing to ambient music....the music should reflect the experience, just as the experience should reflect the music. Not saying minimal totally sucks, but I just don't feel it's a genre that works on a dancefloor like trance, techno, house and breaks.

PS. This is just my opinion that it doesn't to me. Maybe it does, as I don't go to clubs in Germany or anywhere else. But from the stand point of enjoyable club music, I don't think minimal is.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Maybe I am but where's the fun in "beep, beep, ding ding, beep, beep" or whatever it is. To me, that's what minimal sounds like, it's the lack of elements and the simplicity. But to me, going out to a club or some festival and hearing a set full of that for what two hours with maybe some electro-house shit, is boooring as hell. People go out to have fun, enjoy themselves, and unless your in some lounge where really arty people go to who like things like modern art and poetry (I do) and just sit around and drink mixed drinks, then I don't see how minimal as a genre can really "rock a dance floor", as in make people jump up and have fun and dance. It's almost like dancing to ambient music....the music should reflect the experience, just as the experience should reflect the music. Not saying minimal totally sucks, but I just don't feel it's a genre that works on a dancefloor like trance, techno, house and breaks.

not sure where exactly you're from, you're right, minimal can be boring like that. but if you go to somewhere in the world where the crowd is into it, you'll see dancing like the most bangin house/techno/whatevr you want can't touch with a 10 foot pole. i don't think america is quite that place, altho who knows what the future holds

go to berghian/panoramabar in berlin, cocoon or robert johnson in frankfurt, or dc10 on ibiza, you'll see what i mean

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Originally posted by TheKidsWantTechno not sure where exactly you're from, you're right, minimal can be boring like that. but if you go to somewhere in the world where the crowd is into it, you'll see dancing like the most bangin house/techno/whatevr you want can't touch with a 10 foot pole

Yeah probably, that's why I just edited my thing to state that. It's largely my opinion. I just think club music should be enjoyable, both to listen to and dance to, and to a certain extent, I don't find minimal fun to either listen to or dance to. The concept is nice, the execution tends to be boring IMO.

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Originally posted by TheKidsWantTechno go to berghian/panoramabar in berlin, cocoon or robert johnson in frankfurt, or dc10 on ibiza, you'll see what i mean

Haha well don't think i'll be going there anytime soon but your probably right. Maybe it was just an ignorant statement (I make plenty) but it is largely my opinion.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Maybe I am but where's the fun in "beep, beep, ding ding, beep, beep" or whatever it is. To me, that's what minimal sounds like, it's the lack of elements and the simplicity. But to me, going out to a club or some festival and hearing a set full of that for what two hours with maybe some electro-house shit, is boooring as hell. People go out to have fun, enjoy themselves, and unless your in some lounge where really arty people go to who like things like modern art and poetry (I do) and just sit around and drink mixed drinks, then I don't see how minimal as a genre can really "rock a dance floor", as in make people jump up and have fun and dance. It's almost like dancing to ambient music....the music should reflect the experience, just as the experience should reflect the music. Not saying minimal totally sucks, but I just don't feel it's a genre that works on a dancefloor like trance, techno, house and breaks.

simplicity is no reason to bash music, i somewhat agree with you on ur statement, i, however, like all types of edm (except happy hardcore, hardstyle or euro or any other garbage alike) from main dance to dum and bass i like everything, i have no problem with minimal whatsoever and even enjoy it to extremes once in a while BUT to me at least, minimal will never be as deep or revigorating as a good trance or house tune. But you fail when you stated that minimal is way too simplistic to be good (soory if i missunderstood your point) because i see music that is way too complicated to be a lack of creativity. A simple and sweet track beats any complicated, alphabetisised mess of a tune any day. A good producer always knows that.

i hear what you're saying. there deff is a difference between danceable and enjoyable at home. and of course, every city and area has a particular style that will destroy the dancefloors. house still has most of the planet by the balls tho haha, i don't see that changing any time soon. and altho it might stay in pretty "localised" areas, i also don't see minimal going anywhere either

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