TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- lol hddvd
Pages (3): « 1 [2] 3 »

Can someone explain this to me?

I think it's unfair to post a bunch of numbers and not explain it, not everyone is a techno-geek.

quote:

Originally posted by noikeee Can I break the law too?

or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

quote:

this has produced debate about whether the number itself could be considered illegal.

4 85650 78965 73978 29309 84189 46942 86137 70744 20873 51357 92401 96520 73668 69851 34010 47237 44696 87974 39926 11751 09737 77701 02744 75280 49058 83138 40375 49709 98790 96539 55227 01171 21570 25974 66699 32402 26834 59661 96060 34851 74249 77358 46851 88556 74570 25712 54749 99648 21941 84655 71008 41190 86259 71694 79707 99152 00486 67099 75923 59606 13207 25973 79799 36188 60631 69144 73588 30024 53369 72781 81391 47979 55513 39994 93948 82899 84691 78361 00182 59789 01031 60196 18350 34344 89568 70538 45208 53804 58424 15654 82488 93338 04747 58711 28339 59896 85223 25446 08408 97111 97712 76941 20795 86244 05471 61321 00500 64598 20176 96177 18094 78113 62200 27234 48272 24932 32595 47234 68800 29277 76497 90614 81298 40428 34572 01463 48968 54716 90823 54737 83566 19721 86224 96943 16227 16663 93905 54302 41564 73292 48552 48991 22573 94665 48627 14048 21171 38124 38821 77176 02984 12552 44647 44505 58346 28144 88335 63190 27253 19590 43928 38737 64073 91689 12579 24055 01562 08897 87163 37599 91078 87084 90815 90975 48019 28576 84519 88596 30532 38234 90558 09203 29996 03234 47114 07760 19847 16353 11617 13078 57608 48622 36370 28357 01049 61259 56818 46785 96533 31007 70179 91614 67447 25492 72833 48691 60006 47585 91746 27812 12690 07351 83092 41530 10630 28932 95665 84366 20008 00476 77896 79843 82090 79761 98594 93646 30938 05863 36721 46969 59750 27968 77120 57249 96666 98056 14533 82074 12031 59337 70309 94915 27469 18356 59376 21022 20068 12679 82734 45760 93802 03044 79122 77498 09179 55938 38712 10005 88766 68925 84487 00470 77255 24970 60444 65212 71304 04321 18261 01035 91186 47666 29638 58495 08744 84973 73476 86142 08805 29443.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT What I mean is, now that HD DVD is the first one cracked (unless I missed the boat and Blu Ray has been hacked already - which is probably the case), and that there will be budget players available earlier, doesn't that boad well for HD DVD in the format wars?

they've both been cracked for the past month.
It's just become an internet fad (as of a couple of nights ago) to post it all over the internet
this key has proven to be a "universal" key, whereas it started that you had to examine the playback of each protected movie to extract its signature key. less work extracting the key = more productivity

It sure made one guy happy

quote:

Originally posted by RJT What I mean is, now that HD DVD is the first one cracked (unless I missed the boat and Blu Ray has been hacked already - which is probably the case), and that there will be budget players available earlier, doesn't that boad well for HD DVD in the format wars?

Wouldn't HD-DVD actually fare worse from it? I mean, the companies releasing movies would surely rather go with a format that is secure, and thus release on Blu-Ray?

quote:

Originally posted by Sushipunk Wouldn't HD-DVD actually fare worse from it? I mean, the companies releasing movies would surely rather go with a format that is secure, and thus release on Blu-Ray?

I think they'd go with whatever is in people's homes, knowing full well the average user is still probably going to pay for movies.

quote:

Originally posted by RJT I think they'd go with whatever is in people's homes, knowing full well the average user is still probably going to pay for movies.

Hmmm, yeah, that's a good point too.

Digg founder prob made 20k off that number.

quote:

Originally posted by SuspicionVandit Either way, it pisses off the angel consumer

And the people who stand to lose money on the product they try their best to make affordable to the lot of you.

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 And the people who stand to lose money on the product they try their best to make affordable to the lot of you.

like sony. PS3's are more expensive in europe than anywhere else, however they've removed features to cut costs such as some backward capabilities. I guess that's fair ?

quote:

Originally posted by Ian like sony. PS3's are more expensive in europe than anywhere else, however they've removed features to cut costs such as some backward capabilities. I guess that's fair ?

Dunno. But i find a techno-geek that spends days upon days trying to break codes to rip off companies could spend that same time finding a jobby job that pays him enough to buy the friggen things. Kinda sad.

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 Dunno. But i find a techno-geek that spends days upon days trying to break codes to rip off companies could spend that same time finding a jobby job that pays him enough to buy the friggen things. Kinda sad.

rip off companies that rip off the consumer. it goes in a circle. someone has to stop the loop, might as well be the consumer. tell tom cruise to take a paycheck cut

quote:

Originally posted by SuspicionVandit rip off companies that rip off the consumer. it goes in a circle. someone has to stop the loop, might as well be the consumer. tell tom cruise to take a paycheck cut

Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers? Maybe if you got a JOB that payed enough you coud buy what your heart desires.

Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?

some obvious misinformation here.

HD-DVD and Blu-Ray use the same DRM scheme known as AACS. the processing key works on both formats.

on a side note....anyone notice the link i provided above with 20k+ diggs is gone? i thought they stopped deleting the articles? wtf

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers? Maybe if you got a JOB that payed enough you coud buy what your heart desires. Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?

your a moron. the reason for this rebellion has NOTHING to do with economics. it has to do with customer choice and the BETAMAX decision. this also has a lot more impact than you realize.

ever hear of people copying vhs as a backup cause vhs do wear out? hmm..i think you have. well corporations (well more like the MPAA and RIAA) have lobbied to make this illegal! you cant LEGALLY copy a dvd for even backup purposes. also DRM restricts what sort of players you can put your music or video on. AND this also makes hardware manufacturers liable for creating a device that circumvents copyright protections. you may think that these copyright protections are good but you as an uninformed consumer have no idea. its the music and movie industries way of calling EVERYONE a criminal even if they arent. do you like that? you really need to do some research before you start calling people cheap or not willing to pay for content.

great example...how much does it actually cost to produce a cd. ALL costs included? $.05USD. yes thats right FIVE CENTS!!! how much of those cd sales go to the artist? approximately the same. you do the math.

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made

so I take it you've never watched one of his films ?

quote:

Originally posted by Ian so I take it you've never watched one of his films ?

LOL have you seen the video where he gets squirted as a prank? that shit was funny. he gets all mad.

yeah plus i used to crush on katie holmes. bastard. Don't try reasoning with mr tiesto14 though. if you read everyone of his posts you'd conclude that it was impossible

quote:

Originally posted by Ian yeah plus i used to crush on katie holmes. bastard. Don't try reasoning with mr tiesto14 though. if you read everyone of his posts you'd conclude that it was impossible

lol yeah shes fucking HOT. damn ****** converts her to Scientology too!

and yeah that one post just seemed like hes an elitist and doesnt really understand the reasoning behind the blatant defiance of the law.

quote:

Originally posted by gehzumteufel ever hear of people copying vhs as a backup cause vhs do wear out? hmm..i think you have.

Yes i have because "tape" wears out as oppose to DVDs which, if kept in their cases and not scratched DO NOT. And if you really NEED a backup buy 2...they are friggen cheap.

quote:

Originally posted by Ian so I take it you've never watched one of his films ?

Eh just because you and I dont find his movies appealing doesnt mean that millions of other people dont also.

quote:

Originally posted by Ian yeah plus i used to crush on katie holmes. bastard. Don't try reasoning with mr tiesto14 though. if you read everyone of his posts you'd conclude that it was impossible

Argueing since 2001

quote:

Originally posted by gehzumteufel and yeah that one post just seemed like hes an elitist and doesnt really understand the reasoning behind the blatant defiance of the law.

More like YOU are the elitist that feels entitled to break the law. Get a job and stop whining like a little bitch...its only little tech geeks that piss and moan about this shit...i own 2 copies of Goodfellas in the event one gets messed up. Do the same and you will find you have more free time to bitch and moan about how i once fucked your girl.

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers? Maybe if you got a JOB that payed enough you coud buy what your heart desires. Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?

/Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers?
nope. It's that they put these piece of shit protections all over their products, wether it be music downloads, video media, pdf books, etc. If i want to copy my shit, then i want to copy my shit. If the person so chooses to use the key for his own profits(copy+resell), (as with anything in this world) they are responsible for any consequences they run into.
If i don't want to deal with the fact that my mp3 player doesn't support .mp4(p), then i better find a way to extract the key from my iTunes downloads, copy them to unrestricted mp3 and have my music with me like any other person can. i'm sorry if i can't afford an Ipod right now, can you sell your Bentleyz Spinnaz to help get everyone in the world a cheap media player that can support .mp4p or .aacp?
If my friend wants to copy his entire library of DVDs to his networked media drive, so that he can watch his movies over the internet from anywhere in the world,then i'm sorry, he's going to have to bust a key for that.
Yeah, there's piracy in the world and the key is certainly going to be used for it. But making the normal consumer bust his nuts to use his media for pratical matters is ridiculous. All these companies are desperate to save their zillion dollar profits by incorporating piece of shit protections on their prodcuts.
I believe certain Sony BD media requires a TV or a tuner that has HDCP. So you can buy your Dancing With the Stars BlueRay disc boxset for $120, buy your beautiul "42 Samsung LCD, buy a beautiful Samsung BD player, and then realize you need BUY an HDCP connector, which whole purpose is to stop piracy. A fully legitimate consumer, stopped dead in his tracks, because he needs to buy something to wage a war on somehting he is not a part of.
Then there is the Starforce fiasco, which permanently fucked up people disc drives.
the Anti-DRM movement has been going on since inception, and not just because it annoys the piracy groups. because it pisses the shit out of regular consumers.
I don't have an answer to stopping piracy. It's been around since, i dunno, forever. and it'll probably be around for, i dunno, forever. But this whole DRM+CSS shit is ridiculous and sometimes, it pisses people the fuck off.


/Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?
Yeah, Tom Cruise is great. I somewhat enjoy his movies and everyone deserves what they get. But when you give someone $50m, he does a piss poor job, the movie ends like shit, then the studio complains "hmmm, we didn't earn ENOUGH profits, we must make it our initiative to fuck the consumer in the ass," then give the actor $70m for his next movie, and then THAT movie is a piece of shit with even less profits, well, then some things come into mind. Budgeting and quality. Shit, i'd still see War of the Worlds 2 if it came out in theaters, but I wouldn't have the least bit of sympathy if it was pirated in a 0-day

Is everyone who breaks DRM a thief to you?

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers? Maybe if you got a JOB that payed enough you coud buy what your heart desires. Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?

Wow. I'm tempted to write a long response to this but I'm feeling a bit lazy now. Gehz and SuspicionVandit seem to be doing a fine enough job.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.