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Originally posted by Scottaculous Oh no you didn't. I wish I had more mouths, so I can laugh harder than I possibly can. Ever hear of these guys?

fricka fricka!

no shit man. i <3 beastie boys

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Originally posted by Lira

bowie shouldve popped a cap in his ass for that

haha yeah, Beastie Boys have been around forever

And they weren't even really the first ones to start with the rhymes in the early 80s! Skinny Puppy has been dropping dope beats for the last 30 years, even though their stuff gets canned as industrial more often than not.

But white rapping community? I doubt any of these artists would consider themselves as part of some white community, and those that do are probably like...white supremacist rappers...which is even funnier than Xtian rap.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On haha yeah, Beastie Boys have been around forever And they weren't even really the first ones to start with the rhymes in the early 80s! Skinny Puppy has been dropping dope beats for the last 30 years, even though their stuff gets canned as industrial more often than not. But white rapping community? I doubt any of these artists would consider themselves as part of some white community, and those that do are probably like...white supremacist rappers...which is even funnier than Xtian rap.

As a single male rap artist, I think he did make an impression on the music scene. Beastie boys is a group... they don't really compare.

I dunno... name one other white rapper song from the 90's that EVERYONE could identify. Ice Ice Baby was a classic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_Ice

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He found major mainstream success and was one of the few successful white rappers in the early 1990s. He has sold 20 million records worldwide.

Meh...

Anyway, like I said in my previous post, he hated who he was back then... this is from his website, his biography written by himself:

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It's a true story that Video Killed the Radio Star because music should not be about image. Music should be about the music! I learned the hard way. The new Vanilla Ice is exactly that; no image, no polished made up gimmicks created by record companies. I will never be a puppet for the industry again. From this point on I will keep it real. That's why I didn't change the name. It doesn't mean anything; it's only a label. It's not important, plus I am not running from anything or trying to hide. I want people to know that I face my adversaries. Don't get me wrong, though I love Ice Ice Baby, I just can't stand the image that was created for me at that time. Even though it worked and we sold 17 million records, I was treated like a puppet just to make a Hip Hop artist look like a novelty act. I was not designed to be that. I was turned into that by making my image more acceptable to a younger audience, but to tell the difference just listen to the music. It's Hip Hop not Pop like all the other novelty acts. The media has a way of glamorizing what it's like to be a celebrity, and that's where people get the illusion, but the reality of it is much different. I'm not speaking from just my own experiences. Take a look at the track record, it speaks for itself, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Elvis, and lately Kurt Cobain. These celebrities had a hard time dealing with the reality of being famous. Many used drugs to escape from reality just as I did. It was the only way to find peace and happiness. The thing was, no matter how high I got I still had to come back reality and face it all again. That's when the depression sets in. That's when you hit rock bottom and you either die from it or learn from it. I used to think that money would bring me happiness because I thought of all the material things that I could buy. After experiencing what it's like to be rich, I realized that you are not born with it and you also can't take it with you when you die. What's next? In '94 I tried to kill myself by overdosing on heroin, cocaine, esctasy, and anything I could get my hands on. At one point, my friends were dumping buckets of cold water on me as I lay on my bathroom floor in convulsions. At that point I had over eighteen million dollars in the bank, and I still couldn't find happiness in being rich or famous. So, after waking up a couple of days later, I realized that I needed to make a change in everything and just go back to the things that used to bring me happiness, like Motocross. I met new friends and started to straighten my life up, and with the help of my family and my music I found new hope.

Vanilla Ice killed Tupac

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Originally posted by Theresa As a single male rap artist, I think he did make an impression on the music scene. Beastie boys is a group... they don't really compare.

OK you can laugh all you like, but can anyone dispute that Vanilla Ice was one of the highest selling white rap artists for that time?

Rap became main stream in the 80's and white rappers were still making a name for themselves. Vanilla Ice became a rap icon for his time. I don't think there is anyone of our generation from the western culture that wouldn't recognize Ice Ice Baby.

Can someone please give me a decent argument that disputes this? I am talking about single male white rap artist, not groups like the beastie boys.

Maybe I am wrong, I can admit I don't know everything about music, but instead of laughing, can someone tell me why it is such a funny concept?

if only EDM artists could invoke such deep discussion (on an EDM forum)

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i have ice ice baby on 7" vinyl

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Originally posted by idoru Psht, Ice Ice Baby? Hah! Clearly not his best work when compared to...

no love for the TMNT cameo?? GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!!

More than a half hour later, and no one has anything to say?!?!

COMMON PEOPLE!!



I'm actually interested in knowing why it's such a laughing matter. Am I missing something here?

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Originally posted by Theresa More than a half hour later, and no one has anything to say?!?! COMMON PEOPLE!! I'm actually interested in knowing why it's such a laughing matter. Am I missing something here?

all that work into proving that vanilla ice was the shit for nothing, ehh?

Nobody is disputing that his records sold a lot of copies, Theresa.

Nobody is disputing that Vanilla Ice became a household name after hitting it big with a song that consisted primarily of beats and samples recycled from a popular Queen/Bowie song from less than 10 years before.

Nobody is saying he isn't popular.

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Originally posted by Theresa OK you can laugh all you like, but can anyone dispute that Vanilla Ice was one of the highest selling white rap artists for that time?

i'm not disputing anything you're saying... i just think it's funny that you think the Beastie Boys "don't compare" since they're a group, when they've sold way more records than Vanilla Ice. in fact i think they're in the top 5 highest selling hip-hop artists of all time.

Theresa... Vanilla Ice turned Rap into pop. Rap is not pop! Q-tip said that himself, and he's right. He turned rap into a stupid rhyming game, he might as well said, "Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley
Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!"

You lose points Theresa. Vanilla Ice is a blemish on the art of rapping.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue all that work into proving that vanilla ice was the shit for nothing, ehh?

LOL!

Meh, luckily I hadn't put too much effort into it. I find it funny that so many people on here are so quick to laugh or make fun of something that someone else says, but they have no claims to dispute it otherwise.

Bunch of shit talkers

*eggs them on*

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Originally posted by l�cid i'm not disputing anything you're saying... i just think it's funny that you think the Beastie Boys "don't compare" since they're a group, when they've sold way more records than Vanilla Ice. in fact i think they're in the top 5 highest selling hip-hop artists of all time.

Beastie boys = group
Vanilla ice = single artist

That's why they aren't to be compared. I was referring specifically to an individual artist. However, I will agree that if you were to compare them simply because, Beastie Boys would win. They are awesometastic.

P.S. Marc, in the early 90's rap really wasn't anything other than a bizarre hybrid of pop and something else anyway.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Theresa... Vanilla Ice turned Rap into pop. Rap is not pop! Q-tip said that himself, and he's right. He turned rap into a stupid rhyming game, he might as well said, "Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!" You lose points Theresa. Vanilla Ice is a blemish on the art of rapping.

I wouldn't actually credit him, solely, for turning rap mainstream. That would probably be Sugarhill Gang.

I guess some people would say something along the lines of 'oh, well, he introduced rap music into mainstream suburbia in the 1990s and was the first guy to make it 'ok' for whites to rap' but we laugh at those people because justifying Vanilla Ice as an 'artist who made it ok for whites to rap' is simply incorrect. But people keep pressing it. Maybe it's a part of this whole 'white community' I keep hearing about, I unno.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue no love for the TMNT cameo?? GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!!

cameo?
dude that was their movie~!
might i add that that movie kicked major ass

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Originally posted by Theresa P.S. Marc, in the early 90's rap really wasn't anything other than a bizarre hybrid of pop and something else anyway.

Yeah, because douche cacks like Vanilla Ice decided they could make money by packaging and selling a tradition of music which reaches back to people who actually had something worthwhile to talk and sing about.

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Originally posted by mezzir cameo? dude that was their movie~! might i add that that movie kicked major ass

i meant vanilla ice cameo.

dammit, i fucked up.

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Originally posted by Ian i have ice ice baby on 7" vinyl

I would have kept that one to myself Ian

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yeah, because douche cacks like Vanilla Ice decided they could make money by packaging and selling a tradition of music which reaches back to people who actually had something worthwhile to talk and sing about.

If I am not mistaken, rap initially came from chants of African tribes... yes?

Something like that was going to be Americanized to appease the masses, and to be fair, it was not Vanilla Ice himself that chose to cheesify the music.

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Originally posted by Theresa Beastie boys = group Vanilla ice = single artist That's why they aren't to be compared. I was referring specifically to an individual artist. However, I will agree that if you were to compare them simply because, Beastie Boys would win. They are awesometastic. P.S. Marc, in the early 90's rap really wasn't anything other than a bizarre hybrid of pop and something else anyway.

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Originally posted by Theresa He set the bar with the white rapping community imo.

i think solo and group acts can be included in that "community" though, wouldn't you say?

and to even consider him a "single" artist when he sampled another artist is pretty laughable as well.

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Originally posted by Theresa . . .

BAHHHHHHHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

STEW FOOOOOO, FOOL!!!!!!



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Is she serious?!?!?!

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