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Posted by MaxC on May-08-2007 03:49:

Hmmm, last time I posted a track here I was told to start using some VST's to upgrade the quality of my sound... Of course the entire song was made using VST's, so needless to say I have never posted another song here since.


Posted by R.j. on May-09-2007 08:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_

One thing I see happening more often though is this:
New & even existing TA producers come in & post up their track & expect comments without checking out other peoples turns & commenting on them. People then wonder why they get "0" replies. The general rule should be post your track up & then review 4 tracks minimum. Review 2 Un-responded threads & then 2 personal selections. By doing this the review system will work much better & you'll see less of those '0 replies'.

Post 1 track, review 4. It's simple! & the music promotional section will become more active because of it!


I disagree, actually. (to an extent, that is)

With that, you'll have so much 'effort-less' feedback. Meaning, somebody will give comments 'just' to get replies on their tracks. I'm pretty sure at first it would be pretty sweet if this were actually a system everybody followed. But, as time progressed, I figure feedback would become nothing but useless comments from people who desperately want feedback themselves.


But I agree with you when you say that 'if you want feedback, you should make an effort to post quality comments yourself'; it's only fair.


Posted by echosystm on May-09-2007 12:09:

i would only listen to people i know have a clue...

diginerd, diginut, mr. mystery, cyrus, etc.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-09-2007 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
i would only listen to people i know have a clue...

diginerd, diginut, mr. mystery, cyrus, etc.

Nah man, I'm just faking it.


Posted by wrzonance on May-09-2007 16:02:

I post in MPP for the following responses:

"I like it"

or

"I don't like it"

For technical advice on mixing, or synth programming, or other nerdy things-- I come here.


---Adam


Posted by daeus on May-13-2007 20:33:

When I first started using Cubase I was posting half made tracks for feedback.

I'm too afraid after now using Cubase to produce since last summer of posting any tracks because of the risk of parts of it being stolen.

It still seems really unclear the best way to protect your track before you get a label to take it.

Also it would be hard to protect if not impossible part of a tune your working on you may wish to post online?

I send my unfinished works to a select few people I know on msn and in RL, I would love to post my unfinished stuff for tips/opinions though.


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-13-2007 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by daeus
When I first started using Cubase I was posting half made tracks for feedback.

I'm too afraid after now using Cubase to produce since last summer of posting any tracks because of the risk of parts of it being stolen.

It still seems really unclear the best way to protect your track before you get a label to take it.

Also it would be hard to protect if not impossible part of a tune your working on you may wish to post online?

I send my unfinished works to a select few people I know on msn and in RL, I would love to post my unfinished stuff for tips/opinions though.


In reality the fact that you have posted it on a forum leaves an electronic trail, which actually does stand up in court. Not to mention certain other things you can do.

That said, unless your tracks are really good (and I'm not saying they are not) the chances of someone stealing them are fairly slim.

You do occassionaly get some asshole on e-bay trying to sell tracks from forums.

I don't think this should put you off and if anything you are preventing from getting your music to a wider audience and above all else, getting useful tips and hints from the community.

I'm always interested in hearing stuff as I play out on a regular basis so if you want to pm me you can. I will listen and will push stuff that I like to the unsuspecting masses in clubland.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-14-2007 09:42:

quote:
Originally posted by daeus

I'm too afraid after now using Cubase to produce since last summer of posting any tracks because of the risk of parts of it being stolen.

In all my years I have never heard this happen anywhere. Sure, there are people who claim it happened to them or that someone stole their tune but it's ended up being complete BS or sheer paranoia every single time.

If you're never going to let anyone hear your tracks, you're never going to get anywhere either.


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-14-2007 11:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
If you're never going to let anyone hear your tracks, you're never going to get anywhere either.


Absolutely!


Posted by substorm on May-14-2007 15:41:

I dont post anymore cus you are like me. Producers that has a couple of years behind them listens to so many details it just doesnt give anything.. hehe.. Dont mean to sound rude here, cus i rally appriciated it back when i had no experience at all. Now i just turn to pure listeners and labels where i get a yes or no.. hehehe.. thats enough.

Eather the track has something or not, then if it has a hihat that maybe goes to high or a kick thats to weak i will be aware of that in someway, cus these elemets is something that eaven a experienced listener can tell me. Or if a label wants it they will tell it to me also i then go from that and correct it.

Cheers
C


Posted by zodiac9 on May-15-2007 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
In reality the fact that you have posted it on a forum leaves an electronic trail, which actually does stand up in court. Not to mention certain other things you can do.

That said, unless your tracks are really good (and I'm not saying they are not) the chances of someone stealing them are fairly slim.

You do occassionaly get some asshole on e-bay trying to sell tracks from forums.

Cheers
Nem


I would be more concerned with plagiarism, someone stealing your melodies, arrangements, ect, and changing them just enough so that they aren't breaking any copyright laws. There will be nothing you can do about it. If you post a track on a forum, people will assume that there's no copyright on it, and that it hasn't been signed to a label. They'll feel more at liberty to steal or plagerise it. Going to court is something you really want to avoid. Who needs that hassle? Most of the time, if someone steals your music, or plagiarizes it, you'll never even know it. Someone could sign it to a label, and you'll be non the wiser, because there are way too many labels to keep up with.

Bottom line is, if you have a decent track, don't post it anywhere online. Get it signed to a label, most people will be afraid to steal music from an established label, because they know that the music is copyrighted, and they know that a label has very solid legal legs to stand on.

Just know what you're getting into is all. There are a lot of rotten people out there, the music business is full of them. One bad experience will sober you up real quick.


Posted by DJ_Eternal on May-17-2007 11:38:

I actually value other people's opinion on other producer's track more more so than I value the public's opinion on my own.

I'd listen to tracks and form an opinion on them, and hear what other's have to say. Being selective about what opinions i take on board, i then apply useful feedback to build up my musical knowledge and use these in future tracks that I develop.


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