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I don't think it has to be so costly if you're just planning on staying in your bedroom for a while. Seriously, software is cheap and free if you know where to look. I don't see much harm in pirating if you're just using it to fuck around with.

The most you need is headphones ($100 or less), a computer (which you obv have), and some sort of controller. There's a few out there for less than $200. BCD-3000 looks promising for the money. I wouldn't trust it for real gigs but I'm thinking about picking one up to learn on with either Traktor or Ableton Live. It has a built in sound card also if you're like me an need an extra audio port on a laptop.

So that's like $300 + cost of music.

i recommend traktor 3. love it. def a good idea to play around on the pc to see if you actually know what youre doing. many think theyre a dj/can dj but really cant. many want to get into it but find out its not their thing. so before going to spend over a grand, get a pc program or even just find a friend who has decks and see if you can borrow them for a few days to play around and see if its your thing

DJ hardware doesn't depreciate much tho. If you buy decks and then after a month you realize DJing is not for you, you can always sell your setup and only lose a couple hundred.

I think learning to DJ through Traktor is like learning to paint through MSPaint.

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Originally posted by EvilTree A computer will never be able to simulate that feeling you get spinning on a turntable or cdjs.

I agree with this 100%, I used Virtual DJ for a couple months, and M-Audio Conectiv Torq for a few months, then I wanted to get real turntables, the feeling and experience of using real turntables is amazing (even though it's CDJ's) especially with vinyl turntables.

Also you can invest in used Technics 1200s they range anywhere from 700-1200 for a pair and you can probably resell them for about the same price.

Mixer, you wouldn't need anything too fancy, cause if you're playing out most likely the club will have a diff mixer unless it's like a Pioneer DJM-800 or something.

another interesting solution you may want to look into, I use this time to time:

If your computer has a 5.1 sound card in it, you can configure virtual dj to output the lines separately (as in, left deck goes out one headphone jack, right deck goes out the other), and you can feed them straight into individual channels on your hardware mixer. Virtual dj also beatmatches for you quite well, so you can immediately start focusing on your transitions.

I'm completely agreeing that there's nothing like the physical touch of vinyl, or even cdj's, but this way you can buy a good mixer first, and use it in the mean time with virtual dj, then when you've saved a bit more invest in your cdj's or turntables of choice. I'd suggest to get some hands on time before you decide on either one. The mixer for sure you will need either way, which is why I suggest buying it first. Good luck cro!

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Originally posted by EvilTree What he said. Waaaaay too much money. Even with most basic setup, you're looking at 1000 bucks minimum, probably more, depends on what setup you get. (Most ppl go for 2x CDJs usually Pioneers 200s plus a basic mixer) Add headphones (decent ones go for around 150-200), cds, tunes you buy from Beatport or wherever, accesories (ie a recording device, cd binders, etc) and they all add up. The actual learning of the technical skills varies, usually with how much do you practice per day, and whether you had someone teach you, or learn from internet, whatever. For me, it took about 3 months to get beatmatching down consistently and another 3 months to get phrasing and proper transition down. That is with around 1-2hrs of practicing everyday. Having someone to teach me the basics (thanks Aaron!) helped. Then you can join the elite brother/sisterhood of TOTA DJs. I swear at least 1/3 of TOTA is a DJ

u can get decent headphones for 100 bucks what are u talking about

I hear mixed things about people catching on too beat matching...it took me 45 min to figure out exactly how its done.....but took me about a month or so to figure out transitions and such...

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Originally posted by Engine9 but hes just starting, he never mixed anything in his life. You dont need to spend 1k+ to TRY DJing!!

i never tried djing before i bought my stuff...i used shitty dss dj, then decided i really need something real....and up and bought my stuff....


question....

djm-400 is pretty similar to djm-800 right?? i mean with less features and all, plus th in loop sampler....if u were able to get the jist of the 400, 800 should be no problem?

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Originally posted by darouge11 u can get decent headphones for 100 bucks what are u talking about

Orly...

Like what

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Originally posted by EvilTree Orly... Like what

Sony MDR-V500DJ

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Originally posted by darouge11 Sony MDR-V500DJ

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V500...iews/B00001W0DG

Here's just one bunch of review about the headphone.

You pay what you get for the money. *shrug*

As for getting a Sony 7506, hardly anyone says anything bad about them. (And you can get them for around 150-170 in canada)

After coming up to 12 years of dancing in clubs to house music, I can proudly state that I have NEVER dj'd. Why? Because I am a punter, not a pleaser.

Pick a side and stick to it. IMHO the acid test is this... if you go out and DANCE, you are a punter, if you stand on the dancefloor listening but you don't shake that ass, you should try your hand at djing.

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Originally posted by English Rachel After coming up to 12 years of dancing in clubs to house music, I can proudly state that I have NEVER dj'd. Why? Because I am a punter, not a pleaser. Pick a side and stick to it. IMHO the acid test is this... if you go out and DANCE, you are a punter, if you stand on the dancefloor listening but you don't shake that ass, you should try your hand at djing.

oh I DANCE the WHOLE night....lol....but i still have this urge...

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict oh I DANCE the WHOLE night....lol....but i still have this urge...

I guess I am just lazy then...

Did you remove that pic on the other thread? DJDoom...

I bought my initial set up on ebay - it was a numark starter kit with 2 decks and a mixer - I think after shipping and duties etc it came to $700. It was perfect for learning.

If you are going to start playing vinyl, the initial set up doesn't need to run you more than that, but the vinyl purchases will kill you.

If you are going to start playing CDs, the initial set up will be probably twice that if you're buying pioneer 800's or 1000's (even used) - but the music purchases after that will be significantly less than what you'd spend on vinyl.

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Originally posted by English Rachel I guess I am just lazy then... Did you remove that pic on the other thread? DJDoom...

oh u didnt see? ahhh here check it out....http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...40&pagenumber=1

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Originally posted by Skipper I bought my initial set up on ebay - it was a numark starter kit with 2 decks and a mixer - I think after shipping and duties etc it came to $700. It was perfect for learning. If you are going to start playing vinyl, the initial set up doesn't need to run you more than that, but the vinyl purchases will kill you. If you are going to start playing CDs, the initial set up will be probably twice that if you're buying pioneer 800's or 1000's (even used) - but the music purchases after that will be significantly less than what you'd spend on vinyl.

u are suggesting 800s or 1000s ... what about the 200s, are those too old or what?

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Originally posted by EvilTree Yeah. If you don't have a DJ name, other pick it for you. For example, the best that the guys at my work came up was DJ Fingerbang. (Bang being my last name)

i told u to use Yohan Gielen but noooooooooooooooooo

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict u are suggesting 800s or 1000s ... what about the 200s, are those too old or what?

200s are really good and no they aint old...but the only thing that it lacks is vinyl mode...some like vinyl mode, some dont care. its a question of personal preference. 200s are a bang for ur buck

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict u are suggesting 800s or 1000s ... what about the 200s, are those too old or what?

The 200s are fine but you won't ever see them playing out...and they are quite different in terms of feel and function from the 800 and the 1000 IMO.

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Originally posted by English Rachel Pick a side and stick to it. IMHO the acid test is this... if you go out and DANCE, you are a punter, if you stand on the dancefloor listening but you don't shake that ass, you should try your hand at djing.

Completely disagree with this. What applies to you doesn't apply to everyone.

Anyway, I've been thinking REAL hard about getting this

For tinkering around at home. From what I understand, I can load mp3s from my laptop onto both decks of this thing, eliminating the need to buy turntables/CDJs. Am i rite?

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict oh u didnt see? ahhh here check it out....http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...40&pagenumber=1

I take it from that that you didn't, I am not even going to give you the pleasure of looking.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Completely disagree with this. What applies to you doesn't apply to everyone.

Did I say it did? What are you? The sweeping generalization police?

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Originally posted by English Rachel Did I say it did? What are you? The sweeping generalization police?

We can argue over semantics, but I would say you did:

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Originally posted by English Rachel the acid test is this...

just wondering, how long has you been in the EDM scene?

200's - great if you just want to mix, along with basic effects

800's - bigger, more precise, with the capability of scratching in vinyl mode

1000's - if you want what the clubs use with money being no option

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Originally posted by English Rachel I take it from that that you didn't, I am not even going to give you the pleasure of looking.

oh come on just look...i changed it a few days ago...

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Originally posted by smuncky just wondering, how long has you been in the EDM scene?

since Sandstorm so about 7-8 years

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict oh come on just look...i changed it a few days ago... since Sandstorm so about 7-8 years

i mean like really been into it. cuz i can also say i was in it when i heard sandstorm, but i only got really into when i joined TA.


cuz wat i was going to say was that most people who start liking this genre of music have this undying urge to try out DJing in their first year or so. but if uve truely been listening to EDM for that long then that doesnt apply to u.

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