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Posted by Jem_hadar on May-05-2007 06:09:

Re: Movie REVIEW: Spiderman 3

quote:
Originally posted by Lightshow
I like cheese on my burger, i like cheese on my pizza, i like cheese on pasta, and i like cheese on fries with gravy on top, but what i dont like is cheese in my movies, and boy was spiderman 3 ever cheesy.



thats pretty much sums it up for me.

i wasnt expecting it to be good. ive never liked spiderman the comics, and i didnt really lik the first two movies either... spidey's not my thing. but i do find kirsten cute as heck in the first one or two (forget which ive seen)...

so this movie was just what i expected, wasnt disappointed. but it want a movie i really liked.

not a bad way i i suppose to spend the night w/ a couple friends. coudl hve done w/o seeing it though.

even Kirsten more annoyed me than anything in this film. im quite surprised by this.


quote:
Originally posted by Lightshow
and im sure what everybody came to see was Venom, and his debut in this feature.


^^ thats the only reason i was curious and wanted to go. never followed venom either in teh comics, but really wanted to see how he'd look/act on teh big screen!

was kinda let down i think... did a fair job of it i suppose though.


quote:
Originally posted by Lightshow
The most cheezy part in this movie was spiderman springing into action with the American flag waving right behind him taking up the entire screen,.


OH, THAT WAS FUCKING BRUTAL!! I rolled my eyes to msyelf and my friends when that happened! That was WAY TOO much, I coudlnt believe they actually kept that scene in there. HOLY "WOW" is all i hafta say about that.


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-05-2007 06:15:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Ughhhh....how can you complain about PP being emo?? Since when has PP/Spiderman's character NOT been a wussy?? People who don't read comics shouldn't place expectations on movies like this, cause you're bound to be disappointed.


Here's an interview with Raimi from Wizard that explains where he was going with the movie:


http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movie...3/004456303.cfm


Get reference! I miss the days when I'd buy the new Wizard every month (or was it every week?)

Fuck, I miss those days ... seem like a better (simpler) time


Posted by Rodrico on May-05-2007 08:03:

Lots of things that I found to be slight annoyances than anything, but overall I feel the movie didnt ruin anything that was developed over the past few years in the spidey trilogy.

I think a main problem Raimi has as a director is knowing when to lay on/off the cheese in this movie, because there are definately lots of parts that could of been left in the editing scene or re done to make it seem less emotional then it had to be. See this is where Im left wondering if this was a real attempt at bringing heartfelt emotion to the screen or Raimi forcefully trying to cheese the scenes to make it easier to watch with a good chuckle. Comic book emotion= cheesey character drama?

Character plot was fairly good, though the short lived Venom was good enough to sustain a good fight scene, this movie definately could of done with a bit more Venom, or none at all. Such a bad ass character shouldnt be left done with how it was. Villains were weaker than Doc Ock in #2, cause they had to share alot of screen time with each other which is why its hard to compare spidey 2 to 3. Simplicity can often make a movie that much better, and I feel it shows when you see that maybe they tried to cram a little too much into one movie.

Heres an Asterik note in the movie ****WARNING SPOILER**** that made me laugh, why is it that when spider man kisses another girl infront of Mary Jane, no one says shit to the hero/guy. Yet Mary Jane kisses Harry, and countless guys in the theatre called out "Slut" "Whore" "Bitch". Double standards much? lol wtf ****END SPOILER****

The funny part of the whole thing was that, I felt Raimi actually made a spiderman movie that was maybe a bit too intelligent for its audience. Not that im trying to read too much into a movie like Spiderman, but if you really look at the themes Spiderman faces and acts upon, it brings him into a humanly looking light that maybe you dont get too often see in comic-movies.

Overall, I enjoyed the movie alot and rate it alongside #2, the action scenes were amazing, the CGI really kicked ass, and while the drama was overkill, its better than absolutely no drama or character plot. Even though its not a trilogy, clearly its a good end to the Raimi trilogy version (which looks like he might be done), so I dont really know what the fuss is about, this movie is just as good as any spidey movie.

Also, the movie is really fuckin funny to watch actually, Raimi has a good sense of humour with all his characters, and no character goes without giving you a smile or chuckle at what they do or say.


Posted by Endlesswave on May-05-2007 08:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Ughhhh....how can you complain about PP being emo?? Since when has PP/Spiderman's character NOT been a wussy?? People who don't read comics shouldn't place expectations on movies like this, cause you're bound to be disappointed.


Here's an interview with Raimi from Wizard that explains where he was going with the movie:


http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movie...3/004456303.cfm




It's based off of a fucking COMIC BOOK, granted this is no 300, (I'm sure even you ******s have something bad to say about that, this does NOT surprise me, it IS based off a comic book, sure.), but relax...ever hear of going into a movie with NO SHRED of expectations? Plz? Someone? Just GO TO SEE A MOVIE. Period. No expectation, no "holy shit, wtf is going on?" (in the bad way, at least the 3/4 of the movie, just ACCEPT the disbelief for once....long enough for the movie to be over. Fuck.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-05-2007 09:09:

AHAHAHAHAHHAHA. That movie was all over the place. Some of the fighting and intense drama scenes were nice (even though I didn't like how shaky the camera-work was during the fights, and how hard it was to fully comprehend what was actually going on in the fight - a lot of times it just felt like a mess of things spinning around and flying by). And then pretty much all the slow scenes blew huge chunks of cheese. Some of the scenes were downright ridiculous. When he started crying for the third time, the theatre audience collectively laughed. Like what were they thinking, making it so lame people actually laugh during the "tragic" parts?

quote:

You�ve had a lot of fun with Peter Parker embracing his darker side. In working with Tobey on that, can you talk about creating that aspect?

RAIMI: Well, in this story Peter Parker falls victim to his own pride. He starts to believe all the press clippings about himself, that he�s really this hero and somebody great and he starts to be afraid that he is that person and doesn�t want to act any other way than the person that�s right, and that pride manifests itself in a much darker way. So in working on those sequences with Tobey Maguire and the dark Spider-Man, that was a difficult thing for me. It wasn�t fun for me because I didn�t like those sequences. I don�t like watching Spider-Man go bad. And it was unpleasant and I kept worrying, gee, do we really have to do this to show how pageful and vengeful he is? Do we really have to show how pride can destroy you? But my brother kept telling me, �Yes, because he�s going to find himself again.� He loses himself.


Yeah, it's obvious he didn't like the evil Peter parts because he fucking MURDERED them in the movie. Peter started sporting a gay emo haircut? And walking around like a flaming homo? AND WHAT THE FUCK WAS UP WITH THAT JAZZ CLUB SCENE? I could not believe what I was watching.

Character development was great. Don't get me wrong. The way the characters interacted and how their relationships changed was awesome.

And what was up with Peter kissing that girl? How much of an idiot do you have to be to to make out with some girl when you knew your gf would be watching, a few hours before proposing to her?

Also... since when does sand... fly? I've never seen a cloud of sand just... take off and fly. Retarded.

Venom WAS cool though. That final climactic fight with him was wicked. Made the whole movie worth watching.

OMG I LOVED HIS NEIGHBOUR - URSULA. Ahahahaha. The scenes with her were the greatest scenes ever. Laughing my ass off her.

OOH! I found Tobey's acting great. He was asked to do retarded shit, but he did it well. Although he still smiled like a jackass. I don't like that smile.

(Sorry for the A.D.D. review - I'm high)


Posted by Rodrico on May-05-2007 09:36:

haha, yeah the first thing I said when he put his hair down as evil Parker. "Oh shit, hes going emo on us"


Posted by darouge11 on May-05-2007 10:45:

Alright saw the movie yesterday....your right about the cheese factor....i wish there was a bit more of venom, but what are you going to do....its gay about harry osborne and peter parker teaming up....because hob goblin dont like parker to begin with....even tho peter diddnt kill his father....i have to say that i wasnt expecting sandman to be as awesome as he was.....and the whole black suit....(tux or whatever)...walking down there street pointing to girl and shit....too gay




and that american flag bullshit u were talkin about earlier.... i had to just yell out cheese....

still give this 7/10


Posted by dance2dabeat on May-05-2007 13:13:

oh man so looks like i am going to shed a few tears for this movie.

I love cheese!!!!


Posted by Ni-Cd on May-05-2007 13:39:

Whoa, I'm probably gonna catch this flic tomorrow. I haven't been a super-fan of Toby McGuire handling the Peter Parker character, but I've still found the movies entertaining. Doc Oc in SP2 was BRILLIANTLY played, I thought. Talk about empathy for a super-villain.

I'm with JennyPie...if you read the comics, you know that Peter gets the short end of the stick OFTEN, feels the weight of the universe, and often wusses out worse than Luke Skywalker moaning in Episode 4. Regardless, he's one of the good guys that the writers like to break often, comics or movies, so it's good to see some things never change.

Today is free comic book day, btw, so get all yo' asses to a comic book store and support the roots!

Thanks for the reviews peeps, good to prep myself against the cheese.


Posted by Takayuki on May-05-2007 14:41:

If you truly want to see one of if not the best comic book to movie adaption to hit the big screen, give Sin City a couple of viewings.

The Spiderman franchise has always been CGI driven... they were always meant to be those big "blockbuster" popcorn flicks out to make as much money as possible. when you look 5 years down the road though when our technology continues to advance we will look back at these films and go "oh man those graphics are aweful, that looks soo unrealistic" -- Much like how we do at the present to movies made back in the 90's. The movie industry simply does not care how aweful the movie really is, they just care what the overall outcome will be and if the movie makes a lot of money than they have achieved their goal.. ie X-Men 3 - this ranks up there with one of the worst films ever made to end a comic book trilogy, I wish I could rate that film in the negatives it was soo bad.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-05-2007 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Ni-Cd
I'm with JennyPie...if you read the comics, you know that Peter gets the short end of the stick OFTEN, feels the weight of the universe, and often wusses out worse than Luke Skywalker moaning in Episode 4. Regardless, he's one of the good guys that the writers like to break often, comics or movies, so it's good to see some things never change.



I knew YOU'D understand. Cheese or not, still gonna go out and see it for myself!


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-05-2007 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur

OMG I LOVED HIS NEIGHBOUR - URSULA. Ahahahaha. The scenes with her were the greatest scenes ever. Laughing my ass off her.


I AGREE! Her scenes were my favourite in the movie! The Director did something really great by throwing those in there.. I laughed my ass off too, and it was really amusing (and kinda endearing) to watch.

My favourite character in the whole movie was Sandman. I wanted annoyed by him at all. I quite liked his character in this film. I like the way it ended up him.

No complaints or negative comments at all w/ the sandman related aspects of this film. He chracter was great.


Posted by yankeeBaby on May-05-2007 16:21:

Re: Re: Movie REVIEW: Spiderman 3

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
Same was done in the original Superman movies...ridiculous
Americans NEVER quit with their bs


hey HEY now vrk, I didnt make the movie!! lol lets not generalize....I dont even come to the guv and wave an american flag on it with big block letters of armin plastered across the front LOL


Posted by TheDemon on May-05-2007 17:41:

The movie was horrible. Sam Raimi and his brothers all wrote the script and they should be ashamed. OH god, and plus Venom was in the movie for less than 6 min. what a load of crap. oh well. there's talk of another.


Posted by I_Am_Vince on May-05-2007 17:41:

Re: Re: Re: Movie REVIEW: Spiderman 3

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
hey HEY now vrk, I didnt make the movie!! lol lets not generalize....I dont even come to the guv and wave an american flag on it with big block letters of armin plastered across the front LOL


Not yet you mean :P hehe


Posted by I_Am_Vince on May-05-2007 17:53:

I saw the movie Friday 12:01 the theater was packed. I'm a big Spiderman fan and watching that movie was pretty bad, a few good fight scenes, but too much crying for me. Almost at the end when Peter Parker was crying everyone in the theater laughed.

I wished that developed the venom story a lil earlier in the movie so Eddie Brock can harass and screw over Peter Parker's life throughout the movie, instead of Harry Osbourne doing it. and Venom's voice didn't sound cool and slimy like in the cartoon it just sounded like Topher Grace's voice but a lil deeper.

Sandman was pretty cool in the movie, good character development, I actually had sympathy for him in the film.

One of my fav lines in the movie: "Get me some milk!"


Posted by darouge11 on May-05-2007 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
I saw the movie Friday 12:01 the theater was packed. I'm a big Spiderman fan and watching that movie was pretty bad, a few good fight scenes, but too much crying for me. Almost at the end when Peter Parker was crying everyone in the theater laughed.

I wished that developed the venom story a lil earlier in the movie so Eddie Brock can harass and screw over Peter Parker's life throughout the movie, instead of Harry Osbourne doing it. and Venom's voice didn't sound cool and slimy like in the cartoon it just sounded like Topher Grace's voice but a lil deeper.

Sandman was pretty cool in the movie, good character development, I actually had sympathy for him in the film.

One of my fav lines in the movie: "Get me some milk!"



fuck i wanted to go so baked....so i did....and alot of the shit that shouldnt have been laughed at, like some crying you mentioned of peter parker... i fucking died laughing


Posted by I_Am_Vince on May-05-2007 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by darouge11
fuck i wanted to go so baked....so i did....and alot of the shit that shouldnt have been laughed at, like some crying you mentioned of peter parker... i fucking died laughing


lol yeah a lot of people were laughing too.

**********SPOILER WARNING***********

Especially the part where he hit Mary Jane while fighting off those two bouncers, one guy yelled out "She walked into it!" and everyone just cracked up.


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-05-2007 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix


Especially the part where he hit Mary Jane while fighting off those two bouncers, one guy yelled out "She walked into it!" and everyone just cracked up.



BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA tahts fucking GOLDEN!

Fuck, I wish Id seen this movie w/ a better audience in teh cinema! ahahah


Posted by CAKE on May-07-2007 19:28:

okay so i got to watch spiderman 3 this morninkg before work, and i have to agree it definatly was cheesy but it wasen't that bad it was an okay movie nothing too spectacular but i liked it defiantly was worth the 6hr download 6.5/10


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-07-2007 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Djsketchbag
worth the 6hr download


Yep, that's about all it's worth.


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-07-2007 19:55:

Yeah, it wasnt a horrible movie. I touch too cheesy for me at most times (but im not a spider-man fan, so i not trying to knock the movie for this fact, just saying that that kinda cheese didnt appeal to me).

it was what i thought it would be. i def dont feel i waste my my time seeing it (though i could have done w/o traveling to barrie to see it on a bigger screen)


Posted by raveed on May-07-2007 19:57:

Raimi seems to have fallen in love (literally) with spiderman based on how this movie played out. It was more about Peter Parker and his topsy turvy love affair with Mary Jane than about Spiderman.

More disappointingly, the villains (besides maybe the new goblin to an extent) seem to have been forced into the movie and don�t really do much in pushing the story forward.

Raimi�s treatment of the Venom character was especially disappointing. Raimi had said before that he wasn�t a big fan of the venom character and it seemed like he only included him as a cameo to satisfy the other sources given that Venom is one of the most popular villain in the series. The whole symbiote sequence was also not explained very well.

In a nutshell, the movie moves along in a sequence of � waaaaa MJ I love you lets work it out waaaaa but oh shit theres a bad guy robbing a bank so tigers gonna go get em. FYI Mary Jane is a Slut Monkey. Swings from the spider to the goblin whenever one breaks her heart. Spidey should have landed a few more on her when he accidently nailed her when fending of those bouncers.

All the witty and sarcastic humour in the previous 2 movies have been replaced with cheesy one liners. The seen with Jameson trying to buy the camera of the girl was reminiscent of the stereotypical forced funny that you see in so many movies as was that ring in the champagne bit.
*SPOILER*
The butler convincing harry that his father killed himself was another example of the corny elements used in this movie. SPIDEY SPENDS A MOVIE AND A HALF TRYING TO CONVINCE HIS BEST FRIEND THAT HE DIDN�T KILL HIS FATHER AND HIS BUTLER CONVINCES HIM JUST LIKE THAT. AND WHEN THE HELL DID HE FIND OUT THAT HARRY OSBOURNE WAS THE GOBLIN ANYWAY?

The few fight sequences and the special effects were fantastic but with so much just not seeming to fit into the story, it didn�t dazzle like the last 2 movies.


Posted by CAKE on May-07-2007 20:27:

OMG the lamest part ever was Peter was struting with collar popped doing the gun move to all the girls walked by i almost fell out of my copmuter chair


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-07-2007 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
The whole symbiote sequence was also not explained very well.


This was my largest disappointment. How the suit really was *just* a black version of the Spidey suit. WTH

Spiderman when he had the symbiote, it was a pure black outfit w/ the messed up white, mean looking spider symbole... it wasnt just a dark replicate of his original blue and red one, as was used in the movie.

PLUS, and here's the part that bothers me the moist.... throughout the entire movie until the part in the bell tower, the damn symbiote really just seems to be like some kickass pwerfully endowed version of his normal suit. I mean Parker can just take it off? Is that the way it happens in the comics (i doubt it, but i cant recall). If so, then i retract these statements.

I would think that in the comics Peter's black symbiote suits would just transform to mimic human clothing, as it does w/ Brock.


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