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You know you're wrong, just admit it and stop acting like a girl.

Facts:
1. Behringer used the same model numbers as Genelec.
2. Mackie is a completely different type of monitor (radiator).
3. Genelec were the only company to ever use that design.

Grow up.

Actually...



This is true.
I'm going to agree to disagree. It's actually been the most retarded thing to argue about.

<3 you DJ RANN

Re: Re: i want to buy studio monitors

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Originally posted by Eldritch I use the Alesis M1 mkII actives. I can recommend them if you don't want to spend alot of money. There are better monitors out there, but they're good bang for the buck and they work great for me.

Likewise.

I had a listen to everyyhing bar the Event 5's listed. Really did spend alot of time listening to each monitor (And alot more not mentioned) while making a purchase. I didn't like the bx5's, they were two small and not loud (which was the case with all the <5 inch monitors. Likewise with the Rocket rp5's. Even the rp6's lacked the bass I was looking for. The biggest problem with all the 5 inch monitors was they just wern't loud enough and distorted when crancked up loud. They just couldn't keep up with bigger monitors.

I was really impressed with the Alesis M1 active mkII's compared to everything else I heard (even the 8inch monitors). They had more bass then every other 6.5 inch monitor. In terms of equals to the Alesis MK2 actives the only one that was similar were the Event ASP6's. Event TR6's wern't bad either.

In the end I went for the active mkII's as they had more bass then the majority of the 8" monitors.

1, already explained why.

2, They are rip off's - I didn't say identical. That's why they look the exactly the same from the sides, back and front (apart from the front ports). Christ, even the diagrams on the back of the clearly Mackie copied "heatsinks" are virtually identical. And more to, why if there Gene copies did they put that "heatsink" on the when only the Mackies have that?
http://www.music-town.de/shop/image...enelec1032a.jpg
I know it's from the 1032's but they're the same on the back.....

3,Please. I don't think there is enough space on the traceaddict server to post all of the front ported 8" speakers.

Just go and handle, play, install, use some real kit, rather than just reading about it. -as I said google/SOS can't tell you everything

It amazes me how when you started this you you were like "I think theyre Genelec rip offs of 8030 or something or rather." and now your talking as if on the seventh day you decided to give man the monitor speaker.

I have to admit, I've been a bit facetious though this whole thing but what I'm trying to say is when you have both 824's and Truths next to each other, it's really clear that they are copies. We'll just have to disagree then.

if you are on a REAL budget...diy is the way to go, i have 2 pairs of 3 way monitors 8 x 4 x t and 10 x 5 x t, brillent value for money cos i can tuen the cabinets however i want...i also have a diy subwoofer, but that uses some quite expensive components so isnt cheep...the 8" 3 way monitors are pleanty for production needs however and probably cost me about 150 - 200 to put together

In any case I own a pair of Genelec 8040a's they sound nothing like their chinese counter parts .

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Originally posted by ReflexLawn if you are on a REAL budget...diy is the way to go, i have 2 pairs of 3 way monitors 8 x 4 x t and 10 x 5 x t, brillent value for money cos i can tuen the cabinets however i want...i also have a diy subwoofer, but that uses some quite expensive components so isnt cheep...the 8" 3 way monitors are pleanty for production needs however and probably cost me about 150 - 200 to put together

Usually once you take the cost of a decent amp into account, the savings are minimal. Also, active monitors have better transient response etc.

id have to disagree, the response of most monitors you buy of the shelf is severely compromised in terms of cabin space...secondly...i woudlent call the amps in them particularly decent...yes you do need to account for the amp in the cost, but you are still getting a better sound money for money...


if you wantedf ot save on wiring in a passive system, you can infact buys some brillient active plate amps for diy speakers...along with plate amps for subwoofers

DIY speakers are a nice option in theory, but there are so many variables that will affect the final sound of them (porting, cab material, shape, foam, baffling, positioning, drivers, amp componenets, horn placement etc.etc.etc.) that getting it right will probably cost you an arm and a leg if not in components, then at least in terms of time.

It is a fun project and if you really know what you're doing you can get a good result, but I doubt realistically that you will save money making speakers of an equivalent value and performance of manufactured monitors.

well yes, ive been buildign them for a few years now, t takes time to learn how to do it...however there are many step by step projects on the net where cabin size, port calcs, particular cones...bracign and damping, have alredy been worked out for you...following one of these plans can have fantastic results

What do you guys think about these monitors?

http://muzyczny.pl/sklep/szczegoly....-NEAR-05&gid=55

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Originally posted by Mane What do you guys think about these monitors? http://muzyczny.pl/sklep/szczegoly....-NEAR-05&gid=55

rofl.

Pasmo przenoszenia: 33 Hz - 22 kHz

I hope that doesn't mean "frequency response", because if it does, ESI are completely full of BS. As already stated here, you really want a set of 6" woofers man, 5" won't cut it (Those have 5"). Even though I have a pet hate for KRK, if you can find a set of RP6s cheap, they will be better. Next step up is Event TR6s, which are widely considered the best value 6" here in Australia.

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Originally posted by Mane What do you guys think about these monitors? http://muzyczny.pl/sklep/szczegoly....-NEAR-05&gid=55

These are.......M-audio BX5's (and about three other previous rebranded monitors albeit with cosmetic differences (rounded edges,slightly different horns etc.)) I know this becuase when you take them apart they all have the same chinese writing on the internals.

And no they are not any good. They've been out for years in various guises and there is really not that much better than PC speakers.

or you can just buy one expensive monitor speaker(mono). and do stereo paning and stuff on headphones and later when you have the money again buy the second monitor speaker!
example buy only one dynaudio bm5a! and later a second one...

i wouldn't recommend doing that

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Originally posted by echosystm i wouldn't recommend doing that

why not?

is bit ghetto old skool solution but works perfectly!

I think that's actually a very good idea myself. Might even consider doing it for a pair of genelec or something. Although most manufacturers supply paired speakers as they claim they have been tested and matched in the factory

http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/?page...display_rows=10

most are sold single.

the adam P11A is a very good one and is sold seperately, not in pairs...
(not on the dolphinmusic site though, they have a bundle with mopads for these speakers)

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Originally posted by flutlicht junky I think that's actually a very good idea myself. Might even consider doing it for a pair of genelec or something. Although most manufacturers supply paired speakers as they claim they have been tested and matched in the factory

You lot are kidding right? Please lord, spare them for they know not what they say......

Stereo imaging is a pretty critical part of mixing, can't see you getting very far in mono. Headphones are not good for stereo imaging, thats pretty much the most critical benefit monitors have over headphones.

You might as well just save up and buy both speakers at once, you will probably get a better deal.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN You lot are kidding right? Please lord, spare them for they know not what they say......

I'm sorry what?

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Originally posted by echosystm Stereo imaging is a pretty critical part of mixing, can't see you getting very far in mono. Headphones are not good for stereo imaging, thats pretty much the most critical benefit monitors have over headphones. You might as well just save up and buy both speakers at once, you will probably get a better deal.

True but if you save up �700 you might be tempted to put it down on some synths especially if you've not had monitors before and know what they can do. At least if you've brought one your pretty much tied to getting another lol!

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Originally posted by flutlicht junky I'm sorry what?

Dude, do not buy one speaker to monitor with. Firstly, as echosystem rightly said, headphones do nor give a true representation of stereo imaging and because they are tuned to represent sounds in a confined space, they also do not give an exactly representative reproduction of the frequencies in a given sound, especially at differing volumes.

Because of these factors (and others), different harmonics will present in a headphone perception opposed to proper monitor speaker systems.

The same can also be said (to a degree) for "mono" monitoring. You will not get a true representation of the frequencies in your sound or the harmonics involved without having the stereo image as a whole (with both the L and R channels affecting each other) to reference from.

It can be good practise to check your final mix on a mono speaker to see how someone with a small portable radio would hear your track, but trying to engineer what will ultimately be a stereo track, on a mono speaker is really not the brightest idea.

Lol im not a tool I know that one monitor is effectively useless however if you don't have enough money to stretch to a good set you can buy one and buy another a bit later.

When ever I save up enough money i usually find it hard to resisr not spending it on a synth or vsti even though I know i need monitors. At least this way i forces me to save for the other one lol!

I tell you what, when you save up enough money send me you bank details - I know a really good investment opportunity in Nigeria, from a Lawyer whose client has $25m in a bank but can't get it out of the country. They will deposit the money in your account and give you a 10% cut when they retrieve it.

Sounds good?

OK, maybe you're better off just blowing it on another synth then.

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