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Posted by Semirk on May-08-2007 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
You're following the typical american thing, highlighted on these very boards.

let's take some people, they can remain nameless, we'll call them BOOMDOT, Lobba Bou, Btom-A etc.

2003

OMG ARMIN PVD AS THE RUSH COMES OMG I DIEEEE

2004

OMG MARKUS. I'M PROGRESSING NOW.

2005

ARMIN SUCKS. NOW I'M LISTENING TO (INSERT COOLER GENRE)

2006

MNML4LFE. YEAH I'M COOL. ELECTRO RULES. MINIMAL THIS, ELECTRO THAT, HOUSE FOR LIFE.

It's very atypical and basically is down to the fact that many people can't be seen to be liking something for a long period of time. regardless of if it's better or worse now, they just move on with trends. Trance swept america after it exhausted europe.

Wouldn't have put it in your words but looks like ive followed the pattern you're being funny about. Ah well, i'll live at least. To be honest the pattern is logical is your being exposed to certain dj's at particualr time periods, cant blame it all on a bandwagon.

Posted by wotyzoid on May-08-2007 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Semirk
Wouldn't have put it in your words but looks like ive followed the pattern you're being funny about. Ah well, i'll live at least. To be honest the pattern is logical is your being exposed to certain dj's at particualr time periods, cant blame it all on a bandwagon.
yeh you really cant blame it on bandwagons, its mostly lack of personality, integrity and self respect than anything else. besides there is nothing wrong with following fashion to make yourself look cooler, right?

Posted by Ian on May-08-2007 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Semirk
Wouldn't have put it in your words but looks like ive followed the pattern you're being funny about. Ah well, i'll live at least. To be honest the pattern is logical is your being exposed to certain dj's at particualr time periods, cant blame it all on a bandwagon.

I guess it probably fits for some younger people from our way too, but overall that's the way a lot of people have gone. problem is, some of them then resort to having to badmouth trance when they have probably not heard much for a long time. Yeah a lot of it is shit, but there's quality stuff out there in certain places

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-08-2007 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
It's very atypical.

Atypical is the exact antonym of what you're actually looking for- namely "prototypical".

Posted by wotyzoid on May-08-2007 22:24:

Posted by Semirk on May-08-2007 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
yeh you really cant blame it on bandwagons, its mostly lack of personality, integrity and self respect than anything else. besides there is nothing wrong with following fashion to make yourself look cooler, right?

Personality, integrity and self respect, you what? They have nothing to do with it. I'll like what music I like, i could not care what people think of me because of that. Its not as if i pigeon-hole myself to these 'genres', just believe theres a lot of solid productions around here. It just seems that round here its 'cooler' to be into psytrance etc as to what some others have drifted to.

Posted by slinkyhead on May-08-2007 22:26:

Posted by Semirk on May-08-2007 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I guess it probably fits for some younger people from our way too, but overall that's the way a lot of people have gone. problem is, some of them then resort to having to badmouth trance when they have probably not heard much for a long time. Yeah a lot of it is shit, but there's quality stuff out there in certain places

Well im not one to go and slag trance off, i would not know the state of play on it, i generally dont have the time to investigate either due to work, life etc, maybe thats stopping me branching out but not much I can do there. Sure its the same for others however.

Posted by Ian on May-08-2007 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Atypical is the exact antonym of what you're actually looking for- namely "prototypical".

I blame the girl i spent most of english class flirting with & daydreaming about

Posted by wotyzoid on May-08-2007 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Semirk
Personality, integrity and self respect, you what? They have nothing to do with it. I'll like what music I like, i could not care what people think of me because of that. Its not as if i pigeon-hole myself to these 'genres', just believe theres a lot of solid productions around here. It just seems that round here its 'cooler' to be into psytrance etc as to what some others have drifted to.

yeh that the excuse 9999999 other people like you use. Its easy to say (insert style of edm) rocks when you have that many people to back you up. you like what you like...ok but dont you think its coincidence to only like something after 9999999 like it too in an open level. im not here to say what to like and not to like im just against treating music as a fashion sinse i believe it is something much deeper.

Posted by RapidFire on May-08-2007 22:30:

ive never listened to just one genre exclusively. that kinda defeats the purpose of music for me. ive also never listened to music from a certain time only. i tend to preffer most trance from the 90s but a bomb track is a bomb track regardless of genre/time period.

Posted by Semirk on May-08-2007 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
yeh that the excuse 9999999 other people like you use. Its easy to say (insert style of edm) rocks when you have that many people to back you up. you like what you like...ok but dont you think its coincidence to only like something after 9999999 like it too in an open level. im not here to say what to like and not to like im just against treating music as a fashion sinse i believe it is something much deeper.

To be honest i was including myself in them brackets mainly becuase of the progressive shift and after. Nowadays everything has gone so genre specific and crazy I would not know what im listening to, i do believe its a wider range than some tag title would suggest though. You can never judge someones tastes until youve gone through their whole playlist in my opinion, whatever they appear to say on here with all these 'genres'.

Posted by wotyzoid on May-08-2007 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
ive never listened to just one genre exclusively. that kinda defeats the purpose of music for me. ive also never listened to music from a certain time only. i tend to preffer most trance from the 90s but a bomb track is a bomb track regardless of genre/time period.

this guys's got the idea. music isnt a runway. if its good than its good, if its not than forget it. styles of edm should only be emphasized for labeling purpouses in my opinion and to describe a track but no track should ever be judged simply by the style it falls into. Thats why i have no grudge and dont think i ever will against any style of edm (xcept euro and hardstyle) even thought i have my preferences. thats is just being close minded.

Posted by slinkyhead on May-08-2007 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Semirk
Nowadays everything has gone so genre specific and crazy I would not know what im listening to,

ha, i definitely feel like that. So much diversity at the moment and the problem is I don't have the time to properly delve down into music.

I just like what I like

Posted by chesco on May-08-2007 22:55:

I don't see a problem with shifting musical tastes.

I never bash the music I was once into, but I certainly don't buy and listen to hardcore as I did when I was 12/13 for example.

Posted by bobba lou on May-09-2007 03:05:

these threads are getting rather old.. how about we "move on" from them.

Posted by Spirit5 on May-09-2007 03:27:

Even though I have largely moved on from trance, I still am into the older stuff, esp some of the older stuff i'm not as familiar with or stuff that wasn't super huge, whether it's remixes or artists or such. I still like music that I consider "trancey" even though it's technically not trance (it's more like melodic progressive house).

Haha I hate these threads but i'm bored so...

Posted by Dojomaster26 on May-09-2007 04:03:

Why can't we just get a "the mega 'Trance is dead' thread" sticky on this page so that these threads can all get moved into there? Sort of like the "Vinyl vs CD" sticky in DJ Booth...

*points to sig, again*

Posted by AlphaStarred on May-09-2007 04:33:

Classical, and drone-esque ambient music for the penultimate w1n for me.

Posted by SMC on May-09-2007 06:36:

Posted by Rick Mage on May-09-2007 06:48:

I've been collecting trance since 1992. Been djing since 1994. I have become more picky in my trance but that still hasn't stopped me from finding and buying great vinyl in shops in Europe.

Posted by Ian on May-09-2007 08:45:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
I don't see a problem with shifting musical tastes.

I never bash the music I was once into, but I certainly don't buy and listen to hardcore as I did when I was 12/13 for example.

I'm slightly different, I listen to all the music from my youth because it invigorates my mind with memories and that does include proper hardcore from the mid 90s, drum & bass, techno, trance, rock, anything. My biggest problem is how quickly some people seem to follow trends for the sake of it rather than having the will to discover for themselves. I always found myself growing up on different stuff to most people but I'm proud that I did it for myself and didn't just go for whatever was seen to be cool.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-09-2007 08:47:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
I don't see a problem with shifting musical tastes.

I never bash the music I was once into, but I certainly don't buy and listen to hardcore as I did when I was 12/13 for example.

It just seems like most people think shifting means completely abandoning what you used to listen to instead of just broadening your tastes to other things.

Posted by chesco on May-09-2007 09:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I'm slightly different, I listen to all the music from my youth because it invigorates my mind with memories and that does include proper hardcore from the mid 90s, drum & bass, techno, trance, rock, anything. My biggest problem is how quickly some people seem to follow trends for the sake of it rather than having the will to discover for themselves. I always found myself growing up on different stuff to most people but I'm proud that I did it for myself and didn't just go for whatever was seen to be cool.

Sorry I shouldn't have said "don't listen" cos I still do listen the stuff now and again. i meant I don't still buy the stuff, but I do break out all my old REZ mix tapes that my big brother used to buy now and again, people like producer, carl cox and lenny D was the shit I grew up on - still love all that stuff to this day. I'm the same with all the bxr stuff that picotto used to do, I still like to get the records out for a mix to take me back to cream 2001 and the first time I saw BIG MAURO.

Posted by david.michael on May-09-2007 13:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
Why can't we just get a "the mega 'Trance is dead' thread" sticky on this page so that these threads can all get moved into there? Sort of like the "Vinyl vs CD" sticky in DJ Booth...

*points to sig, again*

Thank you, thank you.

You changed my quote a bit, though.

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