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yeh i think its stupid to use serato with cdjs, just play an mp3 dvd if you need alot of music without going back and grabbing more. Serato is stricktly to be used with tables imo. thats what i do lot of times, i burn two copies of all my music into separate dvds (cuz they dont all fit in one duh ) and then thats all i need and i also print out like 20 pages with with all my music for reference.

Ali 'Dubfire' Shriazinia seems to agree with this.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid yeh i think its stupid to use serato with cdjs, just play an mp3 dvd if you need alot of music without going back and grabbing more. Serato is stricktly to be used with tables imo. thats what i do lot of times, i burn two copies of all my music into separate dvds (cuz they dont all fit in one duh ) and then thats all i need and i also print out like 20 pages with with all my music for reference.

cdj's don't play dvd's.

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Originally posted by nousplacidus I think what people find odd is not so much the use of Serato with CDJs but more the fact that he could have used it with his TTs and saved all that money from the CDJs. No?

Yeah, that's what I meant in my first post.

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Originally posted by dj_palm man i dont understand how its possible to use cdjs to this. how the hell to connect etc? can someone explain? i have cdj800 and im sick of burning out the mp3s on cds, any advice?

Basically, there are now a few software programs out there like Serato, Torq, PCDJ, Traktor Skratch, etc that have control cds and/or vinyls that you pop into a cdj or put on a TT and it syncs your mp3s with the movement of the real physical platter. Do some searches for the programs above and you'll get opinions on them.

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Originally posted by skip cdj's don't play dvd's.

mp3 compatible??

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Originally posted by wotyzoid mp3 compatible??

yes, they play mp3s. but not dvds with mp3s. only cds with mp3s. unless i'm completely mistaken, which i don't think i am.

I use torq with CDJs. I just find that going to clubs and ripping shit out of the technics attached to a DJ mixer is usually a lot harder (and sometimes impossible) than just popping off the RCA connects on the back of CDJs which are usually, without exception, exposed.

Plus, the control CDs aren't dependent on good needles etc. to work well, just a pure digital signal, so less set up hassle and less to worry about going wrong.

I prefer the CDJ experience over the control vinyl experience.

rob.

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Originally posted by skip yes, they play mp3s. but not dvds with mp3s. only cds with mp3s. unless i'm completely mistaken, which i don't think i am.

dang i must have been using dvjs that day then, im disappointed that i didn't know the difference.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Agreed, and for me, I found I was having to sort of pre plan a mix according to what I've burned or will be burning, and then I have to make copies of each. Call me lazy too, but I wasn't willing to spend all that time doing that.

Haha, I was also doing that about a year ago. I finally had enough and bought Serato.

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Plus, having your entire library in various playlists, synched with ITunes in Torq, for example, lets me choose a sequence of tracks I may not of thought of before if I was pre burning tracks to regular cds.

Yup, song selection is a much more fluid process now.

serato and cdj's is faaaarr superior to cd's and cdj's! are you kidding? you can play a whole music library w/ the cdj's w/ out changing cd's, its organized, you dont have to burn cd's, etc... omg serato is the bomb w/ cdj's!

hmmm... i want to play good for me by above and beyond. (types good for me in search engine, clicks, and drags) done!


let me see... i'm in f minor and want to move to c minor (filters accoring to "comment" which he has the keys typed in, picks a track, clicks, and drags) done!

what's that? you want to hear gamemaster by lost tribe? (types, clicks, and drags) done in seconds!

i dont know how you could possibly say having serato and cdj's is pointless, inefficient, or whatever... are you serious?

serato + cdj's = the bomb

cd's + cdj's = save 500 bucks and buy serato

I have been using Serato for several years now and I love it. And just like many of you, I use it with CDJs and vinyl. But I love it with CDj's and I have my reasons.

I play out 2-3 times every week and I found out that using it with 1200's can have many issues.

Serato with 1200's vs CDJs. You decide. There's a lot more issues with using 1200's vs CDJs. Here's a few examples.

1200...
- True Vinyl Emulation & feel.
- Needle Dropping
- Calibration.. You have to calibrate each time. This is a pain.
- Damaged Needles... If you're needles go bad or brake, you're fucked.
- Ground Wire can cause your virtual deck to spin backwards.
- Feedback s a bitch
- RCA's Get all jacked up on the 1200's easily.

CDJ's...
All those problems go away.
- Easy set up.
- You can hook up Serato without pluging or unpluging anything from the mixer. This is a BIG PLUS!!!!
- No calibration needed.
- No Feedback like on the 1200's.
- No Needle Dropping
- CDJ800's Instant Loops are No Good
- You Loose Any Special Features on the CDJs such as special effects on the Denon's.

^ Woody you forgot your at the end. ....

I guess your alternative is Virtual DJ also known as Virtual Vinyl with Numark. Don't Need DVJs, because it does video as well.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman ^ Woody you forgot your at the end. ....

Fixed!!

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Originally posted by limin_li I guess your alternative is Virtual DJ also known as Virtual Vinyl with Numark. Don't Need DVJs, because it does video as well.

I've seen a few guys control Virtual DJ with the Serato Timecode CDs. That is cool, but I rather wait for Serato 1.8 to come out with full video support.



Oh here's an added bonus.

I hear the video mixing program on 1.8 will cost extra.

Source below

http://www.agiprodj.com/2007/05/07/...live-v18-video/

It is going to cost extra. But nothing too ridiculous. Serato made that announcement late last year. They will also release a Pitch & Time plug in for Serato, and that will also be extra. But it's a high quality time correction plug in for Serato.

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Originally posted by DjWoody They will also release a Pitch & Time plug in for Serato, and that will also be extra. But it's a high quality time correction plug in for Serato.

This is what I'm looking forward to

Do built in effects still work on control cds, i no looping doesnt, but for exampled the Wah on my cdj200's? Im guessing not?

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Originally posted by Import Do built in effects still work on control cds, i no looping doesnt, but for exampled the Wah on my cdj200's? Im guessing not?

they don't work

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Originally posted by Import Do built in effects still work on control cds, i no looping doesnt, but for exampled the Wah on my cdj200's? Im guessing not?

Looping on CDJs works in Torq, not sure about Serato. If SSL is like Torq though, you're better off using the software looping as it's much more accurate.

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Originally posted by DjWoody I have been using Serato for several years now and I love it. And just like many of you, I use it with CDJs and vinyl. But I love it with CDj's and I have my reasons. I play out 2-3 times every week and I found out that using it with 1200's can have many issues. Serato with 1200's vs CDJs. You decide. There's a lot more issues with using 1200's vs CDJs. Here's a few examples. 1200... - True Vinyl Emulation & feel. - Needle Dropping - Calibration.. You have to calibrate each time. This is a pain. - Damaged Needles... If you're needles go bad or brake, you're fucked. - Ground Wire can cause your virtual deck to spin backwards. - Feedback s a bitch - RCA's Get all jacked up on the 1200's easily. CDJ's... All those problems go away. - Easy set up. - You can hook up Serato without pluging or unpluging anything from the mixer. This is a BIG PLUS!!!! - No calibration needed. - No Feedback like on the 1200's. - No Needle Dropping - CDJ800's Instant Loops are No Good - You Loose Any Special Features on the CDJs such as special effects on the Denon's.

YES!

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Originally posted by discobiscuit serato and cdj's is faaaarr superior to cd's and cdj's! are you kidding? you can play a whole music library w/ the cdj's w/ out changing cd's, its organized, you dont have to burn cd's, etc... omg serato is the bomb w/ cdj's! hmmm... i want to play good for me by above and beyond. (types good for me in search engine, clicks, and drags) done! let me see... i'm in f minor and want to move to c minor (filters accoring to "comment" which he has the keys typed in, picks a track, clicks, and drags) done! what's that? you want to hear gamemaster by lost tribe? (types, clicks, and drags) done in seconds! i dont know how you could possibly say having serato and cdj's is pointless, inefficient, or whatever... are you serious? serato + cdj's = the bomb cd's + cdj's = save 500 bucks and buy serato

And....

OH HELL YES!!!!!

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Looping on CDJs works in Torq, not sure about Serato. If SSL is like Torq though, you're better off using the software looping as it's much more accurate.

You are correct. Looping works on the CDJ's, but the instant loops don't. The software looping in Serato is way more accurate. With version 1.8, instant looping will be once again possible.

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