Man with unloaded gun killed by victim


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Posted by Dervish on May-21-2007 20:44:

Knew i shouldn't have put that in (cos you'll focus on that) but really come on pulling(or trying to) a gun when one is in your face just ain't smart.

Posted by Sunsnail on May-21-2007 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
Knew i shouldn't have put that in (cos you'll focus on that) but really come on pulling(or trying to) a gun when one is in your face just ain't smart.

Well it obviously works sometimes!

Posted by venomX on May-21-2007 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
Well it obviously works sometimes!

But fails more often then it works. Then the other person says, blowing the smoke out of his gun says: Powned.

Posted by occrider on May-21-2007 21:04:

Darwin salutes that gentleman.

Posted by Sunsnail on May-21-2007 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by venomX
But fails more often then it works. Then the other person says, blowing the smoke out of his gun says: Powned.

It obviously depends on the situation. The guy felt confident he could be the winnar.

Posted by SebG on May-21-2007 21:18:

Good for him for self defense.

Shit bag got what he deserved.

Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on May-21-2007 21:46:

meh

If Americans didn't have guns then this shit wouldn't happen in the first place.

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Darwin salutes that gentleman.

yeah, it is a worthy addition

Posted by gehzumteufel on May-21-2007 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
If you are running around with a group of 5 people on a crime spree you probably aren't smart enough to consider the consequences of car-jacking vs murder in the first place.

Strip away morality and societal laws and humans are still animals. The #1 instinct is FIGHT OR FLIGHT. If you feel your life is being threatened you will do whatever it takes to defend your life, including 'unnecessarily' killing someone who is threatening your life.

fixed!

Posted by gehzumteufel on May-21-2007 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_
meh

If Americans didn't have guns then this shit wouldn't happen in the first place.

yeah, it is a worthy addition

wrong. its been proven by statistics that the more guns per capita the lower the crime. also would you rather be shot or stabbed? i personally would much rather have a GSW. you have a less likelyhood of bleeding to death.

in fact i JUST saw a thing on a news type show that had hardened criminals on there. they ALL said that they are more afraid of a civillian with a gun than a cop! why? because they know the cops have guns. they have no clue if you have a gun or even know how to use it well. and you have the element of surprise a lot of times if they are robbing your house.

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on May-21-2007 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Darwin salutes that gentleman.

Yes!

Posted by Lira on May-21-2007 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
Well it obviously works sometimes!

In quite rare occasions, reason why it probably ended up on the news.

I agree with Dervish here - I personally prefer to give over my car than kill a 18 year old.

Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on May-21-2007 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
wrong. its been proven by statistics that the more guns per capita the lower the crime. also would you rather be shot or stabbed? i personally would much rather have a GSW. you have a less likelyhood of bleeding to death.

in fact i JUST saw a thing on a news type show that had hardened criminals on there. they ALL said that they are more afraid of a civillian with a gun than a cop! why? because they know the cops have guns. they have no clue if you have a gun or even know how to use it well. and you have the element of surprise a lot of times if they are robbing your house.

lol proven statistics. Do you truely believe that? you guys truely are on another planet.

here:
http://www.guncontrol.ca/English/Ho...GunEpidemic.pdf

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-21-2007 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
wrong. its been proven by statistics that the more guns per capita the lower the crime.

Err...what?

I am against banning guns, but that statement is false, even if we ignore international comparisons and focus just on the U.S. Have a look at violent crime offenses by state:

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/cgi...+Crime+Offenses

Then look at gun ownership by state:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr.../ownership.html

Lots of intersection between high gun ownership and high violent crime...

Posted by shaw on May-21-2007 23:15:

Posted by AndreaCKY772 on May-21-2007 23:34:

shouldn't have been robbing in the first place
shouldn't have been threatening innocent people like that in the second place

he was going to go to jail anyways...

Posted by gehzumteufel on May-21-2007 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Err...what?

I am against banning guns, but that statement is false, even if we ignore international comparisons and focus just on the U.S. Have a look at violent crime offenses by state:

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/cgi...+Crime+Offenses

Then look at gun ownership by state:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr.../ownership.html

Lots of intersection between high gun ownership and high violent crime...

^fucking idiot. wheres some of the worst crime in the USA? Washington DC. where is it that some of the harshest gun control has happened? Washington DC. ALL of the RIGHT TO CARRY states have a lower violent crime than the states that arent. want me to find MANY MANY articles and statistics showing this? its not hard. im VERY VERY anti gun control. as i stated earlier HARDENED CRIMINALS said it themselves, that they are MORE afraid of ME, a gun toting citizen than a fucking cop. why? FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN! you dont KNOW if i have a gun or not. you dont KNOW if i am a good shot. you dont KNOW what kind of gun i have. you dont KNOW if i have a high explosive round. criminals dont want to die. they are out for self preservation and instant gratification. hence why they carry a gun.

Posted by gehzumteufel on May-21-2007 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by AndreaCKY772
shouldn't have been robbing in the first place
shouldn't have been threatening innocent people like that in the second place

he was going to go to jail anyways...

LOL i agree. he got what he deserved.

Posted by distant on May-22-2007 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
Well it obviously works sometimes!

Depends on what you mean by "works". A kid fuckin' died, are you saying that "works"?

Posted by Sunsnail on May-22-2007 00:55:

Yes

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-22-2007 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
^fucking idiot.

Looking more closely at the stuff I linked, it looks like I was wrong. I am wrong sometimes (rarely), and I can recognize it without somebody throwing a little hissy-fit at me.

Moving on...

I compiled the stats to reflect gun ownership (descending order) vs. violent crime rates and homicide rates:

PHP:

Nat'l avg. violent crime rate: 469.2 / 100,000 inhabitants

Avg. violent crime rate for top 25 gun-owning states: 361.684

Avg. violent crime rate for bottom 25 gun-owning states: 441.536

[If anybody is wondering, the national rate is thrown off by the inclusion of D.C. on the original page.]

Avg. murder rate for top 25 gun-owning states (2004): 4.404 / 100,000

Avg. murder rate for bottom 25 gun-owning states (2004): 4.764 / 100,000

[Homicide stats come from here: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004912.html]

So gun ownership in the U.S. has a pretty strong negative correlation with violent crime in general, and a small negative correlation with homicide.

Posted by jupiterone on May-22-2007 02:37:

I don't get why you're all sobbing over this shit, why would you feel bad for a fucking punk who wants to either rob or hurt you?

They should have thought about what they were doing before they tried robbing people. Karmas gonna catch up to you sooner or later, for this idiot it caught up very early.

Another idiot with an illegal weapon off the streets. In the same instance if you have a gun pointed at your face and you're being threatened by some snotty punk you don't think, your mind surely races and you don't know what to do. This man simply defended himself, you don't know what the kid would do, even if he didnt have bullets; the 50+ year old didnt know that. People dont give a shit for one another these days.

Posted by nrjizer on May-22-2007 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by SebG
Good for him for self defense.

Shit bag got what he deserved.

+1

Posted by tubularbills on May-22-2007 05:25:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
dumbass.

Posted by changosanch on May-22-2007 05:49:

One punkass dead (which he deserved) and 4 accomplices apprehended.
Which means 5 FEWER carjackers in the streets.

*edited*

Posted by shaw on May-22-2007 05:51:

fewer.

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