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Originally posted by Marc Summers inb4theresa

Meh.

I don't see how this has anything to do with female empowerment or feminism. I mean... no one was trying to really discourage older women from having children, they just physically (normally) are unable to.

I am surprised this woman hasn't hit menopause to be honest.

Whatever. This isn't female empowerment, it is evolution. Women are not hitting menopause as early as they once were. So what. Such is life.

I personally wouldn't want to have kids that old, but to each their own. If it makes them happy, so be it.

P.S. What is with the feminist hatred?

I think a lot of you confuse feminism with feminazism, which are two very different things.

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Originally posted by Theresa If it makes them happy, so be it.

At what cost ? Surely the welfare of the children must also be considered.

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Originally posted by Theresa P.S. What is with the feminist hatred? I think a lot of you confuse feminism with feminazism, which are two very different things.

that's because feminazism is the more famous cousin.

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Originally posted by Theresa P.S. What is with the feminist hatred? I think a lot of you confuse feminism with feminazism, which are two very different things.

they're very similar, nowadays. a lot if not most of them don't want equality--they see women as being clearly superior to men, in a twisted bit of irony.

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Originally posted by Omega_M At what cost ? Surely the welfare of the children must also be considered.

You could say that about everything.

If she wants them, and is capable of having them, then why not?

Who are you or anyone else to be making judgements on her decision to have kids at a later age? Who said having children at a younger age is better anyway?

Meh. I think a bunch of you are jumping on the band waggon with this whole "welfare of the children" thing. There are kids who are born to alcoholic/druggy/psycho/single parent/unwanting families (who are young) all the time. What about them?

At least this family wants them enough to go out of their way to have them, and most likely are situated in their lives well enough to provide them a loving and secure home. Age shouldn't be a factor.

Parents have to die some day. Theirs will die a little younger in their lives, but at least they will have had a good up-bringing... which is a lot more than a lot of people can say.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous they're very similar, nowadays. a lot if not most of them don't want equality--they see women as being clearly superior to men, in a twisted bit of irony.

I don't think you have a clue of what you are talking about.

no.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous no.

Good argument.

thanks.

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Originally posted by Theresa You could say that about everything. If she wants them, and is capable of having them, then why not? Who are you or anyone else to be making judgements on her decision to have kids at a later age? Who said having children at a younger age is better anyway? Meh. I think a bunch of you are jumping on the band waggon with this whole "welfare of the children" thing. There are kids who are born to alcoholic/druggy/psycho/single parent/unwanting families (who are young) all the time. What about them? At least this family wants them enough to go out of their way to have them, and most likely are situated in their lives well enough to provide them a loving and secure home. Age shouldn't be a factor. Parents have to die some day. Theirs will die a little younger in their lives, but at least they will have had a good up-bringing... which is a lot more than a lot of people can say.

nobody is jumping on the child welfare bandwagon. seeing kids born to alcoholics and psychos is bad enough. but that doesn't take away the irresponsibility these people who should be grandparents at this age. Bringing kids into this world knowing that you cannot give them your best is something which is totally unacceptable. People shouldn't really be this selfish. Just because technology has given you the power to act unnaturally does not mean you have to use it.

I'm totally against women older than 40 having kids, seems young but it isn't.

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Originally posted by Omega_M nobody is jumping on the child welfare bandwagon. seeing kids born to alcoholics and psychos is bad enough. but that doesn't take away the irresponsibility these people who should be grandparents at this age. Bringing kids into this world knowing that you cannot give them your best is something which is totally unacceptable. People shouldn't really be this selfish. Just because technology has given you the power to act unnaturally does not mean you have to use it.

How do you know they wont be good parents? How do you know they wont live until they are 100? How do you know they aren't spry for their age?

My aunts are 60 and definitely are healthy and energetic enough to take care of children. With evolution and improvements with health care, people live to be very old, and manage to stay healthy and strong well into the old age.

Nothing says that at an older age these people are incapable of providing a good home for their children. The fact that the have a stable, loving marriage, and wanted the children in the first place is a really great start. These kids will have a better home than thousands of children born to parents in their 20's.

I think you are making an unfair judgement and assumption.

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Originally posted by Theresa Meh. I think a bunch of you are jumping on the band waggon with this whole "welfare of the children" thing. There are kids who are born to alcoholic/druggy/psycho/single parent/unwanting families (who are young) all the time. What about them?

Who said we don't feel the same way about those parents? I feel the same way towards those "parents" as I do towards these, however this thread is not geared towards them.

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At least this family wants them enough to go out of their way to have them, and most likely are situated in their lives well enough to provide them a loving and secure home. Age shouldn't be a factor. Parents have to die some day. Theirs will die a little younger in their lives, but at least they will have had a good up-bringing... which is a lot more than a lot of people can say.

Age is most certainly a factor. Your physical well-being deteriorates as you get older. The older they get the less they'll be able to do. Sure, some older adults are quite strong, and sure, this couple may be one of them. Yet they're still more susceptible to medical problems than an individual in the normal "becoming a parent" age range of 25-35, many of which physical conditions can prevent them from performing their parental duties.

Do they have the correct beliefs, values and mindset to raise a child? Sure. Do they have the ability to monetarily provide for a child? Maybe they do, we don't know. Do they have the ability to guarantee that they will be in healthy physical condition that will allow for proper care? No.

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Originally posted by Theresa These kids will have a better home than thousands of children born to parents in their 20's.

The unfortunate thing is, this is true.

The real question is, how will a 76 year-old woman be able to handle two 16 year old boys?

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC The real question is, how will a 76 year-old woman be able to handle two 16 year old boys?

Spoiled brats, imo

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC The real question is, how will a 76 year-old woman be able to handle two 16 year old boys?

she will beat them.

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Originally posted by idoru Who said we don't feel the same way about those parents? I feel the same way towards those "parents" as I do towards these, however this thread is not geared towards them. Age is most certainly a factor. Your physical well-being deteriorates as you get older. The older they get the less they'll be able to do. Sure, some older adults are quite strong, and sure, this couple may be one of them. Yet they're still more susceptible to medical problems than an individual in the normal "becoming a parent" age range of 25-35, many of which physical conditions can prevent them from performing their parental duties. Do they have the correct beliefs, values and mindset to raise a child? Sure. Do they have the ability to monetarily provide for a child? Maybe they do, we don't know. Do they have the ability to guarantee that they will be in healthy physical condition that will allow for proper care? No.

With this in mind, should anyone who has a physical or mental disability be discouraged, or not allowed to have children? Looked down upon for having them?

Does anyone have the ability to guarantee that they will be in healthy physical condition at any point in their lives? No.

ESPECIALLY with obesity... there are 35 year olds dying of heart attacks all the time. There are people who cannot walk up a flight of stairs without being winded. Is that healthy? Should all of them be stopped from having children?

The most important things IMO when it comes to having children is that the parents want them, are capable of taking care of them (financially and physically... and that doesn't necessarily mean running around with them,) and can/will love/nurture/guide them as they grow.

Just because they may not be able to toss the kids around, or play tag with them doesn't mean they are unfit parents. I think it is admirable that at such a later age they even want children, and are willing to sacrifice their older age in having them. That alone suggests that they truly want them, and will love them more than anything. Isn't that the most important thing?

I am shocked that there aren't more of you who are happy that there are parents who really WANT their kids... and managed to have them despite age.

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