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Originally posted by Invasionmix But with the gas prices so high, it's more gas efficient if you're going 110-120 compared to 100.

huh? what are u talking about?


Increasing your highway cruising speed from 90km/h to 120km/h can raise fuel consumption as much as 20%!!

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced speeding is just wrong.....you should all be charged with careless driving....and you idiots wonder why you pay so much for insurance.....assclowns

right, cuz you are such a perfect citizen! and everyone else is an idiot!

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Originally posted by Sasha Increasing your highway cruising speed from 90km/h to 120km/h can raise fuel consumption as much as 20%!!

That's actually not correct. Most modern car motors are built to a spec where the peak efficiency is reached while traveling slightly over 100 kph, usually close to 110, and the efficiency drops off more at lower speeds than higher speeds (think about it - efficiency is 0% when you're idling, but much higher than that when you floor it).

While it's true that you're wasting more fuel at 150 kph than you are at 90 kph, 110-120 is better than either of those. Driving slower than one normally would is neither fuel-efficient nor safe, contrary to popular belief.

Of course, this all depends on the model year of the car, quality of the transmission, computer, etc., but 100-110 is a good rule of thumb if your car was made in the past 15 years.

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Originally posted by Provocative_boi I love speeding on HWY 403 ,HWY 427 North and QEW both ways, i think its one of the most smoothest roads where even if your going 140 or 160 it still feels like your doing 100 i dunno........ I cant control myself i go crazy. Which highways do you guys love to speed on ????

hell yeah...QEW/403 on the way to Hamilton...just east of the mountain there are some funnnnnnnnn twisties and the mountain itself, without any traffic, is great.

I've done the drive in a bunch of cars, but most fun were my old modified Ford Focus w/full suspension kit (ripped around a Jag no prob, lol), a friend's Honda S2000 and my old modded Talon TSi AWD.

good times...I miss driving

I hit the fuel shutoff on both the Focus (172km/h) and took an old Escort up to ~170 on the 407 with *zero* traffic around.

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Originally posted by MarkT hell yeah...QEW/403 on the way to Hamilton...just east of the mountain there are some funnnnnnnnn twisties and the mountain itself, without any traffic, is great. I've done the drive in a bunch of cars, but most fun were my old modified Ford Focus w/full suspension kit (ripped around a Jag no prob, lol), a friend's Honda S2000 and my old modded Talon TSi AWD. good times...I miss driving I hit the fuel shutoff on both the Focus (172km/h) and took an old Escort up to ~170 on the 407 with *zero* traffic around.

Good stuff bro.


Speeding in SUVs are even more fun....I remember last year my dad had a Ford explorer 2006.....man was it fun the ride was really smooth itself but speeding was like crazyyyyyyyy

Hands in the air momment while feet on the gas pedal,

Certain stretches of the 407.

404 after Mavis, going north
401 west past Pearson

I90
I290

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Originally posted by Invasionmix What does that have to do with anything? I agree that it's pretty stupid to be doing anything over 120-130 on the HWY. But with the gas prices so high, it's more gas efficient if you're going 110-120 compared to 100. And if you want to save a lot of gas make sure you tailgate trucks and buses

To effectively draft off a bus or truck you would need to be so close to it that it may not be the smartest move either.

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Originally posted by Provocative_boi Good stuff bro. Speeding in SUVs are even more fun....I remember last year my dad had a Ford explorer 2006.....man was it fun the ride was really smooth itself but speeding was like crazyyyyyyyy Hands in the air momment while feet on the gas pedal,

hands free speeding in a tank...fun stuff, lol.

before anyone starts crying...this is all done without much, or any, traffic (at least on my part).

speeding when you're 'endangering' only yourself is one thing...as we all take our own risks...but fucking around with other cars on the road is just dumb.

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Originally posted by Sasha huh? what are u talking about? Increasing your highway cruising speed from 90km/h to 120km/h can raise fuel consumption as much as 20%!!

thats if you drive a god damn echo... don't forget you're also going faster, which cuts your the time you use your car.

On my car I notice that at 100kmh its just above 2000 rpm, at 120kmh, its not touching 2400 rpm... this means its still effecient to drive at 120kmh

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Originally posted by Engine9 seeing how in germany certain parts of hte autobahn have no speed limit i dont see why we couldnt implement that here, during certain times of the night when theres barely any cars on the road

Roads in Germany, the autobahn in particular, are in much better condition, for one, and for two, drivers there are generally better trained and know the rules of the road. How many people here will you see completely hogging left lanes, and passing on the right. Cruise outside of the bigger urban areas, where the big highways become two late only, and how many will STILL hog left lanes, and absolutely refuse to move into the right, even when there may be no other cars, or the traffic flow is going at their same speed. Honestly, if we had a stretch of highway with no speed limit, I would think the only people you would find there for the first little while (until enough people died that is) would be cocky arrogant teenage drivers, and cocky arrogant men. Do I want to share a fast lane with people of that calibre...probably not.

At the same time, I refuse to believe people in Germany are somehow better drivers by nature. If a bunch of Germans can be taught to drive properly on the highways, why can't a bunch of Canadians? Is there something we're lacking that the Germans have?

I-75 is fun to speed on.. everyone else is so it makes it more enjoyable lol

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Originally posted by Provocative_boi Speeding in SUVs are even more fun....I remember last year my dad had a Ford explorer 2006.....man was it fun the ride was really smooth itself but speeding was like crazyyyyyyyy Hands in the air momment while feet on the gas pedal,

You know, one of these days you may very well have easily lost control of a ride with such a high centre of gravity. But yeah, all fun

I've seen people pull some pretty stupid stunts while in trucks and SUVs. Honestly, I wish they had a place where all of them could go, on a pure straightaway, allow them to speed up 200, then lead them into a blind corner. YAY, now that would be fun.

Bottom line, we all speed. THe highway speeds in Canada are unrealistic, at least outside of major urban areas. Increasing the speed limit inside major cities would be folish, simply out of the sheer volume of vehicles. But outside of these areas, forcing people to conform to a ludicrous speed limit is just a cash grab, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread. But even with all that, I just can't ever agree with anyone taking their car in the 170+ km/h range just for kicks on public roads. You think you're so macho, go take your fucking Ford to a track, and have at it there. There are plenty of clubs all around toronto that will set up regular track meets.

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Originally posted by zokissima You know, one of these days you may very well have easily lost control of a ride with such a high centre of gravity. But yeah, all fun I've seen people pull some pretty stupid stunts while in trucks and SUVs. Honestly, I wish they had a place where all of them could go, on a pure straightaway, allow them to speed up 200, then lead them into a blind corner. YAY, now that would be fun. Bottom line, we all speed. THe highway speeds in Canada are unrealistic, at least outside of major urban areas. Increasing the speed limit inside major cities would be folish, simply out of the sheer volume of vehicles. But outside of these areas, forcing people to conform to a ludicrous speed limit is just a cash grab, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread. But even with all that, I just can't ever agree with anyone taking their car in the 170+ km/h range just for kicks on public roads. You think you're so macho, go take your fucking Ford to a track, and have at it there. There are plenty of clubs all around toronto that will set up regular track meets.

Dood like Mark T mentioned earlier you just dont sit in ur car or suv and just go nutts ,you for a fact show be aware of your surroundings and do it in a way where you can control it.


I have been driving for about 6 yrs now and i know whats dangerous and whats sometimes okay to do

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur At the same time, I refuse to believe people in Germany are somehow better drivers by nature. If a bunch of Germans can be taught to drive properly on the highways, why can't a bunch of Canadians? Is there something we're lacking that the Germans have?

I guess what Canadians (or Ontarians specifially) are lacking is defensive or considerate drive. What I mean by that is what zokissima was saying before, people here like hogging left lanes, they don't yield for people passing them. Or some people just drive really slow on right lanes which would slow down the flow of traffic overall.

When I drove to Minnesota last week (15 hour drive, across 4 states) every state I drove in, 95% of the cars were driving on the right lane on a two lane freeway. People only went on the right when they want to pass people and even after the pass they go back to right lane. Also the speed limit there is about 120 KM/H so I guess they don't feel the need to speed past that. Me being from Toronto and used to the left lane being a lot faster than right lane I was in the left lane for a good 2-3 hours before anyone got in my way while I was going 150 (I can only get fined for speeding, no demerit points in the US )

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur At the same time, I refuse to believe people in Germany are somehow better drivers by nature. If a bunch of Germans can be taught to drive properly on the highways, why can't a bunch of Canadians? Is there something we're lacking that the Germans have?

-people in europe are much better drivers
-its tougher to get a license there afaik
-less women drivers
-roads there are wayy better and safer at high speeds
-we got to many n00b drivers on the roads
-16+ drivers that would abuse it

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur At the same time, I refuse to believe people in Germany are somehow better drivers by nature. If a bunch of Germans can be taught to drive properly on the highways, why can't a bunch of Canadians? Is there something we're lacking that the Germans have?

No, there's something they're lacking that we have: thousands of immigrant drivers with virtually no training, many with black-market or nonexistent licenses, and extremely lax enforcement of all road rules except for speeding.

There may also be some non-demographic factors in Europe; for example, gas is much more expensive (except where there are price controls), and it's easier in many parts to get where you want via public transportation than it is to drive, so people are less likely to drive unless they really need to. A lot of the people you see hogging the left lane are slackers or stoners who really don't care where they're going or when they get there.

defensive driving is the worst kind of driving, wtf invisionmix you smoking man??

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Originally posted by malek defensive driving is the worst kind of driving, wtf invisionmix you smoking man??

What do you mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_driving

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Originally posted by Provocative_boi Which highways do you guys love to speed on ????

You're an idiot.

I 5 and i loved it from vancouver to seattle!

6:30am is shift change, so any stretch of road at that time is good for enhanced defensive driving :P

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Originally posted by Invasionmix What do you mean? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_driving

I was going thru it and saw this: At intersections never assume that you have the right of way.

geez thats one of the most annoying things, a car sits at an intersection and is too "affraid" to cross it after a stop. Fucking up everyone's rythm.



Driving comes down to getting with the flow, be it to speed up when entering a highway (NOT 60kmh), switching lanes when there's about two-three cars lenghts space during rush hour (no one will stop for ya and flip the red carpet), waiting for everyone to completely halt at a stop before engaging (fucking annoying), changing lanes when your speed is too slow, driving at the same speed as other vehicles next to ya ( 105kmh would be above speed limit ), man i could go on and on... and most of these people are either asian, very old people, black or the worst old black woman ( i die ).

Also, driving Sundays is the most annoying thing ever, because those hippies who never use their cars during the week, get to drive it on sunday... everything is slower and defensive.

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Originally posted by zokissima Roads in Germany, the autobahn in particular, are in much better condition, for one, and for two, drivers there are generally better trained and know the rules of the road. How many people here will you see completely hogging left lanes, and passing on the right. Cruise outside of the bigger urban areas, where the big highways become two late only, and how many will STILL hog left lanes, and absolutely refuse to move into the right, even when there may be no other cars, or the traffic flow is going at their same speed. Honestly, if we had a stretch of highway with no speed limit, I would think the only people you would find there for the first little while (until enough people died that is) would be cocky arrogant teenage drivers, and cocky arrogant men. Do I want to share a fast lane with people of that calibre...probably not.

I think Germans in general are very law abiding. The laws of road state that left lane is only for passing, so they try to use it only for passing ive seen that so much while driving there but I NEVER see it here. It works very well since it allows faster cars to go as fast as they want without bothering you. Mind you their cars are built for higher speeds, and theres barely any old shitty cars on the roads. Also many places have these wind barriers. Anyway this kinda sux cuz canada is so big and having higher speeds on inter city roads would mean less driving time.

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Originally posted by malek I was going thru it and saw this: At intersections never assume that you have the right of way. geez thats one of the most annoying things, a car sits at an intersection and is too "affraid" to cross it after a stop. Fucking up everyone's rythm.

The way you're interpreting that runs completely counter to what defensive driving entails. It just means don't assume somebody else will stop just because they have a red light or stop sign; if they're slowing down, fine, but if it doesn't look like they're going to stop, it really doesn't matter whether or not you have the right of way.

Unfortunately there are all sorts of drivers here who haven't been trained properly (or at all) who equate "defensive" to "traffic obstruction". Any halfway decent driving school will make it abundantly clear that a defensive driver always goes with the flow. Still, most problems don't come from people misinterpreting defensive, they come from people who just don't have a fucking clue, like the person who started this thread.

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