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Posted by David Jeffreys on Jun-23-2007 00:23:

Andryuha:

didnt meen for my tone to sound harsh..but knowing they were a newbi i only put the link up to give examples. if i wanted to promote my stuff i would have included the tracklist!! only expected the listener to listen to a few mixes to get the point across.
nor am i trying to sound like the kig of mixing,and the only reason i said

quote:
not a single mix is less than 1:30 long


is because on that set some of the tracks you can only hear the main riff of the song for 30 seconds which would imply it was a "quick mix"

quote:
This already shows me that you have very limited knowledge about mixing.


once again not trying to sound like a bad ass but to comment back
i spin of 4 cdj's and that set had 32 tracks in 70 minutes.
i will send you the link and the tracklist privity.
you should listen to "what im promoting" before you tell me i have
"very limited Knowledge about mixing"
i know alot of stuff but i also know there are more tricks out there then i will ever know.

but point taken! i should be carefull about what i say on these boards so i dont sound thike an asshole!


Posted by David Jeffreys on Jun-23-2007 00:43:

quote:
there is a difference between proper eqing and having nervous energy and pretending to do more than one is really doing for the sake of showmanship, is all I am saying. it really doesn't take that much tweaking to get tracks to mix well, just the right timing. plus, it's not like you have a pinpoint accurate eq system on a dj mixer, so you're going to affect more than you need to


nefardec:

yes there is very much a difference! the people that are really listening to the set that know the track mainly other dj's know what is really going on. i understand what you were saying. it pisses my of mhen i see someone acts like there doing something when there not doing anything. i once watched one of my idols fake their whole set with a pre recorded mix!

and you could have not said it better. timing is everthing!!
hearing tale ends of songs mix is boring. droping the songs in at the right moment is key.


Posted by David Jeffreys on Jun-23-2007 00:49:

quote:
track selection is key though, pick the right track and it almost mixes itself


yep! it doesn't mater if you can mix better than everyone else in the world
if you are playing crap, they will still be "or not" dancing to crap!


Posted by Andryuha on Jun-23-2007 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by David Jeffreys
Andryuha:

didnt meen for my tone to sound harsh..but knowing they were a newbi i only put the link up to give examples. if i wanted to promote my stuff i would have included the tracklist!! only expected the listener to listen to a few mixes to get the point across.
nor am i trying to sound like the kig of mixing,and the only reason i said



is because on that set some of the tracks you can only hear the main riff of the song for 30 seconds which would imply it was a "quick mix"



once again not trying to sound like a bad ass but to comment back
i spin of 4 cdj's and that set had 32 tracks in 70 minutes.
i will send you the link and the tracklist privity.
you should listen to "what im promoting" before you tell me i have
"very limited Knowledge about mixing"
i know alot of stuff but i also know there are more tricks out there then i will ever know.

but point taken! i should be carefull about what i say on these boards so i dont sound thike an asshole!


Eh, I did not mean to discredit you or anything. It's just that in your post you sounded a bit like an arrogant ass. I hope there are no hard feelings and I will listen to your mix as soon as I get a chance.

Thank you very much for the tracklist.


Posted by Beatflux on Jun-23-2007 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by David Jeffreys

follow this link to hear what proper mixing sounds like.


What link?


Posted by David Jeffreys on Jun-23-2007 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
Eh, I did not mean to discredit you or anything. It's just that in your post you sounded a bit like an arrogant ass. I hope there are no hard feelings and I will listen to your mix as soon as I get a chance.

Thank you very much for the tracklist.


.no hard feelings here! one of the reasons why i dont go on messages boards much is cause i always sound like well an arrogant ass. dont meen to sound that way just always do!!


Posted by Cro_Addict on Jun-23-2007 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by David Jeffreys
i once watched one of my idols fake their whole set with a pre recorded mix!


Peter Hook?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m01g4XnC_qU


Posted by David Jeffreys on Jun-23-2007 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
What link?


i deleted it from the post. i will send it to you


Posted by CiTrus on Jun-23-2007 14:56:

thanks guys for those tips and pointers .

also thanks to those who took time to listen and point out my mistakes

will do up another mix soon


Posted by jun139 on Jun-23-2007 16:00:

could u give us a track listing as well when u post up ur other mix ?


Posted by Allayla on Jun-23-2007 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by David Jeffreys
i spin of 4 cdj's and that set had 32 tracks in 70 minutes.

Not to sound like an ass but i find mixes like this to be very annoying to listen to.. it really isn't that hard to do iether, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing intros and outros together sometimes, most house music has very nice intros and outros that it would just be stupid to leave them out of a mix (especially prog & tech) you would lose those insane transitions that just have to be done the way they were produced if you know what i meen...

On the subject of touching eq nobs etc, i think its just a habit that's imposible to break, i do it all the time it makes me get into the music.


Posted by David Jeffreys on Jun-23-2007 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
Not to sound like an ass but i find mixes like this to be very annoying to listen to.. it really isn't that hard to do iether, there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing intros and outros together sometimes, most house music has very nice intros and outros that it would just be stupid to leave them out of a mix (especially prog & tech) you would lose those insane transitions that just have to be done the way they were produced if you know what i meen...

On the subject of touching eq nobs etc, i think its just a habit that's imposible to break, i do it all the time it makes me get into the music.


what do you meen.

and eq nobs.... once you start its hard to stop!!


Posted by xiad on Jun-26-2007 11:33:

I'm listening to the mix right now.
It's not BAD, but heres my short list of pointers:

1. Work on your phrasing. On the 1st mix in the set, your right, the beat did seem a bit out of place. Just work on knowing the track a lil better, so you know exactly where the absolutle most perfect time to drop it is.

2. If your really bored with the mixing try throwing in some FX. Although (so far) this is realllly trancy, you could ad some slight effects that would add a lil bit more depth to the sound.

other than that, just keep at it. I'll let you know if I hear anything worthy of an edit: later on


Posted by Dojomaster26 on Jun-26-2007 17:52:

I think there are better ways of interacting with the crowd than by pretending to use the EQs. Case in point: Donald Glaude

Clickage


Posted by CiTrus on Jun-29-2007 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by xiad
I'm listening to the mix right now.
It's not BAD, but heres my short list of pointers:

1. Work on your phrasing. On the 1st mix in the set, your right, the beat did seem a bit out of place. Just work on knowing the track a lil better, so you know exactly where the absolutle most perfect time to drop it is.

2. If your really bored with the mixing try throwing in some FX. Although (so far) this is realllly trancy, you could ad some slight effects that would add a lil bit more depth to the sound.

other than that, just keep at it. I'll let you know if I hear anything worthy of an edit: later on


Thanks for the feedback.

Qn is, do you guys Remember all the points like intro etc?


Posted by Beatflux on Jun-29-2007 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
I think there are better ways of interacting with the crowd than by pretending to use the EQs. Case in point: Donald Glaude

Clickage


Very nice.


Posted by Zild on Jun-30-2007 00:00:

I was hoping it would be a video of Donald Glaude making out with DJ Dan.

I never really understood the whole dancing whilst waving a record thing. But then again I much prefer John Digweed's stage presence. Add to that the fact that he doesn't overuse the echo (make that all the FX actually not just echo) FTW.


Posted by Beatflux on Jun-30-2007 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
Not to sound like an ass but i find mixes like this to be very annoying to listen to..


Last time I went to the club I found the exact opposite. The guy spinning the warm up set had this house tune with a major breakdown and it was a decent tune at the wrong time. There weren't many people dancing because...the Bboy's owned the dance floor. I thought ideally he might throw down a couple of breaks, but he least he could have done was keep the beat solid.

Maybe I'm wrong. Opinions?


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