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Israel agreed Sunday to begin releasing hundreds of millions of dollars in frozen tax funds to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

Releasing FROZEN funds isn't aiding, it is lifting siege.
Listen, you can post, as you said, all about the Israeli apologist perspective. You can back it up with 2 page articles exracted from counterterroristblog.org all you want. It will not change my thoughts, the thoughts of the Palestinian people towards Israel, nor will it change the thoughts of open minded intellectuals across the globe, who openly CHALLENGE Israels APARTHEID (yes, I say it again) against the Palentinians, one of those being former US President Jimmy Carter.

As for the statement by Zawahri, that was released THIS week. You're telling me that NOW, after almost 2 years of being officially elected, the stance taken by the governments of Israel and the United States are justified by something said for obvious propoganda purposes by Americas arch enemy? Anything said by Zawahri is irrelivant, since he has a tendancy to try and play on Arabs emotions through these pathetic tape messages and videos, based on bullshit interpretation of current events.

Please, please, please don't get me wrong. I DO NOT SUPPORT HAMAS . I do believe that they should have never got into power. I've been an unpartial observer of this situation for a long, long while. But the fact of the matter remains that they are the officially elected government of "Palestine". Same goes for the GWB administration. He was elected democratically. Won by a slim margin (both times), and most of the world, in the least, disapproves of his political stances and his policies. If the tables were turned, and the Palestinians hypothetically had all the money, and all the power, who do you think would being lucky enough to have their 'funds unfrozen'. The only difference between the two is that one is the leader of the worlds most hegemonic superpower, and the other is the victim of 61 years of oppression.
As for the Arab-Israelis conspiring against Israel in the 6 Day War, update your wikipedia. We are now in 2007, over 40 years after the fact. This is an entirely new generation of individuals. MOST of which who want peace. Give me a break.

Finally, as for the mortar and RPG attacks, let me just put it this way, which came 1st, the chicken or the egg??

Think about that one.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Well, at least we agree on something

Totally wromng mate.

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And why wouldn't there be? We're talking about Arabs that conspired to attack Israel that caused the 6-Day War. I'm sure there are many other reasons since then but the resentment and distrust don't just disappear over night. That doesn't mean I don't disagree that something should be done to at least get them out of the Limbo that was created out of that mess.

Israel wants to invade all the arabic world from Iraq to Egypt
,this plan is estabilished by the Zionism movement.
read well

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Ah yes, walls. I agree, walls suck. However, walls either keep people in or out. Guess which? And since the situation wasn't going to be changed by the 'other side' anytime, the wall was built to keep undesirables, out. I'm well aware that walls don't build bridges but neither do constant RPG barrages on civilians. So unless there's a solution to the stopping of the RPGs, I don't see the wall coming down anytime soon either. I might not agree with it either but I'm pretty sure the original meaning was lost and now looks like a pen for the Palestinians. The Palestinian authorities should probably learn to house their unsavory elements lest someone do it for them; hence the wall which now effects everyone. If you have a better idea, lets here it. Well thanks for Ad Hominem I guess. I'm glad you understand what 'discrimination' is. The point, obviously missed, was that Israel was left with a tough decision about a land that didn't belong to anyone and came under their control. Granted, they probably could had a resolution before now and you can't say to me they're not trying because it would be a lie.

Wait dude u don't How much discrimnation and violation
against occupied Palastine rights
read WELL

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Wait, what? The Israelis and the Americans are responsible for the civil war? Wow. All I've ever heard from his board regarding Israel and their military movements was how imperialistic and Nazi-like their regime is. You can't honestly tell me had Israel actually stepped in between Fatah and Hamas that that would somehow magically change in the name of 'democracy'? I raise my eyebrow at that seriously.

REAd well dude
America is behind all of this.

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Unfortunate yes, however Hamas is labelled a 'terrorist' organization. Explain to us why people's taxpayer dollars should be funding this group again? Especially since Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has issued a statement urging Muslims to support Hamas, and calling on Hamas to unite with al Qaeda and bring shari�a law to Gaza. Yea, that would be brilliant! >>Source<< But wait, Bush DID actually fund Fatah and guess what? Has now solidified Hamas' claws into the Palestine people. >>Source<< See above explanation on this.

Wrong mate
read well

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Hasn't Israel done enough on stirring the pot? I know I'm sounding like an Israeli apologist through most of this, but I'm also playing devil's advocate since Israel is far from being perfect in this whole story. However, the Palestinians themselves are far from being exempt, especially in matters that affect their closest neighbors.

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Originally posted by M.Johan Totally wromng mate. Israel wants to invade all the arabic world from Iraq to Egypt ,this plan is estabilished by the Zionism movement. read well Wait dude u don't How much discrimnation and violation against occupied Palastine rights read WELL REAd well dude America is behind all of this. Wrong mate read well -1 wrong

LOL!
I don't know what's worse, your lack of rebuttal and contribution or that aweful format

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r LOL! I don't know what's worse, your lack of rebuttal and contribution or that aweful format

No dude,
there're many reports and sources which can supply u with full detailed facts about these realities of the conflicts in the M.East.

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