Monday, August 06, 2007

A Dawning Dictatorship? (911-2B & NSPD-51)

A Piecemeal Prologue

Half of the American people believe that the Bush administration is on the hunt for Al-Qaeda for the 9/11 attacks. Another half believe that 9/11 was a Bush administration inside job, attributable not to Al-Qaeda, but to "Al-CIA-duh." Both halves, though, agree on one thing, and aren�t shy about saying it: This summer we are likely to suffer another terror attack, a "911-2B."

The list of notables� quotables begins with the springtime warning of the vice president to NBC�s Tim Russert on Meet the Press:

April 15, 2007, Dick Cheney: "The greatest threat now is �a 9/11� occurring ... with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities."

June 3, 2007, Dennis Milligan, Chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party: "I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on [Sept. 11, 2001]."

July 1, 2007, ABC News: "A secret U.S. law enforcement report, prepared for the Department of Homeland Security, warns that al Qaeda is planning a terror "spectacular" this summer."

July 11, 2007, Michael Chertoff, Homeland Security chief: "I believe we are entering a period this summer of increased risk."

July 20, 2007, Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury: "Whether authentic or orchestrated, an attack will activate Bush�s new executive orders [NSPD-51], which create a dictatorial police state in event of national emergency."

July 24, 2007, Peter DeFazio, House Homeland Security Committee member: "I just can�t believe they�re going to deny a member of Congress the right of reviewing how they plan to conduct the government of the United States after a significant terrorist attack � Maybe the people who think there�s a conspiracy out there are right."

A Recess Review

As Congress goes home for August, opinion polls show that roughly two out of three American citizens either dislike or detest George W. Bush, and things are rapidly falling apart for him. More and more White House officials are invoking executive privilege to avoid answering the hard questions of an exasperated legislative branch about them and their "unitary executive." Alberto Gonzales is the object of a growing congressional impeachment movement, as is Dick Cheney � and half of the public wants Bush impeached, too.

In the last two weeks the stock market has dropped by nearly a thousand points, and threatens a bearish mauling of the financial sector that has been the Bush administration�s base and beneficiary.

His own Republicans are threatening to bail out on busted-down Iraq, unless they get strong reassurances from General David Petraeus in mid-September. The general�s situation is hardly reassuring, though. Embattled Baghdad, which he was sent to secure, is currently under fire and without water, and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is publicly calling for his removal.

Wednesday, Aug. 1, could have been the worst day of all for the White House. In the morning came the news that the Iraqi government had fallen apart, with the Sunni faction quitting al-Maliki�s cabinet. This disastrous development was likely to hold the headlines until the end of the week, when Congress would head home to discuss this latest war calamity with already war-weary constituents.

A Minnesota Miracle

Wednesday afternoon could have added even more woes to the White House. America�s first and only Muslim congressman, Keith Ellison, appeared on CNN�s Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer to discuss some scorching anti-Bush comments he had made on July 8 to constituents in Minneapolis, in which he had compared 9/11 to the Reichstag Fire, and George Bush to Adolph Hitler. In 1933 Hitler used the Reichstag Fire, carried out under his orders, to establish a dictatorship in Germany.

Ellison�s analysis is accepted by most of the Muslim world, much of the non-Muslim world, and a growing minority of Americans. Rather than defend it, though, Ellison backed down with apologies in his interview with Blitzer, saying that his remarks were a "rookie mistake," never to be repeated.

Perhaps Ellison�s retreat from his remarks was an attempt to stave off the disaster that frequently befalls those who disrupt the political paradigm. If so, it didn�t work. Two hours after Ellison�s mea culpa, his congressional district suffered a freak disaster with the collapse of the I-35 bridge into the Mississippi River.

One man�s loss is another�s gain, though. In the news, the collapse of the Minneapolis bridge supplanted the collapse of the al-Maliki government and the Bush White House for the rest of Wednesday..., then Thursday..., then Friday. By Saturday the congressman who had accused the unitary executive of treason was with Bush himself, taking a tour of his afflicted district, and begging for the relief of federal funds.

A Cowardly Congress

It�s hard to fathom why the Democratic Congress would bow down to the unitary executive before skipping town for summer vacation, but that�s just what they have done.

Last week Congress gave the White House the gift of expanded executive power by its approval of the 9/11 Commission�s recommendations, further extending the reach of the unitary executive.

Friday, the Senate voted 60-28 in favor of granting Bush and Gonzales more power to conduct domestic surveillance without the trouble of a court warrant. The House followed suit Saturday, with a vote of 227-183.

A Dodging DeFazio

On the same day that the Minneapolis bridge fell into the Mississippi, the White House refused a written request by House Homeland Security chairman Bernie Thompson and Oregon Congressman Peter DeFazio to read classified annexes of NSPD-51, the presidential order, announced in May, by which Bush can declare himself dictator in the event of a natural catastrophe like Katrina � or a terror attack like 9/11-2B.

DeFazio�s Oregon is the target of "Noble Resolve," an upcoming 9/11-2B military exercise scheduled for August 20-24 that includes a nuclear attack on Portland. Pacific Northwesterners are increasingly alarmed that they may be the targets of a false flag nuclear attack, or the fallout from it. You can�t blame them. After all, according to all sources, left and right, 911-2B is the only thing that can revitalize the war president and the war plan.

Oregon�s DeFazio is unfazed by it all, or pretends to be. Penny Dodge, his chief of staff, refuses to answer questions from media about his failure. DeFazio has taken to the Internet and airwaves to urge his constituents to relax � despite his inability to examine NSPD-51, and his unwillingness to examine the possibility that they may be targets for a military exercise. He urges trust in the motives of the unitary executive. In doing so DeFazio fails in his duty, and acts the part of Bush�s buffoon in a comedy of terrors.

Captain May is a former Army military intelligence and public affairs officer, as well as a former NBC editorial writer. His political and military analyses have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, the Houston Chronicle and Military Intelligence Magazine.


http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolut...sp?a=1729&z=162

Good stuff trancer

Hence why I include the government in the secret criminal society. Anything against the constitution is criminal.

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Originally posted by Krypton Good stuff trancer Hence why I include the government in the secret criminal society. Anything against the constitution is criminal.

It's not the government as a whole, though. It's a rogue faction within it.

Just like out of the X-files, I think that whoever wrote "The Lone Gunman" knew something that the rest of us didn't.



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Monday, August 06, 2007 A Dawning Dictatorship? (911-2B & NSPD-51) A Piecemeal Prologue Half of the American people believe that the Bush administration is on the hunt for Al-Qaeda for the 9/11 attacks. Another half believe that 9/11 was a Bush administration inside job, attributable not to Al-Qaeda, but to "Al-CIA-duh." Both halves, though, agree on one thing, and aren�t shy about saying it: This summer we are likely to suffer another terror attack, a "911-2B." The list of notables� quotables begins with the springtime warning of the vice president to NBC�s Tim Russert on Meet the Press: April 15, 2007, Dick Cheney: "The greatest threat now is �a 9/11� occurring ... with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities." June 3, 2007, Dennis Milligan, Chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party: "I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on [Sept. 11, 2001]." July 1, 2007, ABC News: "A secret U.S. law enforcement report, prepared for the Department of Homeland Security, warns that al Qaeda is planning a terror "spectacular" this summer." July 11, 2007, Michael Chertoff, Homeland Security chief: "I believe we are entering a period this summer of increased risk." July 20, 2007, Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury: "Whether authentic or orchestrated, an attack will activate Bush�s new executive orders [NSPD-51], which create a dictatorial police state in event of national emergency." July 24, 2007, Peter DeFazio, House Homeland Security Committee member: "I just can�t believe they�re going to deny a member of Congress the right of reviewing how they plan to conduct the government of the United States after a significant terrorist attack � Maybe the people who think there�s a conspiracy out there are right." A Recess Review As Congress goes home for August, opinion polls show that roughly two out of three American citizens either dislike or detest George W. Bush, and things are rapidly falling apart for him. More and more White House officials are invoking executive privilege to avoid answering the hard questions of an exasperated legislative branch about them and their "unitary executive." Alberto Gonzales is the object of a growing congressional impeachment movement, as is Dick Cheney � and half of the public wants Bush impeached, too. In the last two weeks the stock market has dropped by nearly a thousand points, and threatens a bearish mauling of the financial sector that has been the Bush administration�s base and beneficiary. His own Republicans are threatening to bail out on busted-down Iraq, unless they get strong reassurances from General David Petraeus in mid-September. The general�s situation is hardly reassuring, though. Embattled Baghdad, which he was sent to secure, is currently under fire and without water, and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is publicly calling for his removal. Wednesday, Aug. 1, could have been the worst day of all for the White House. In the morning came the news that the Iraqi government had fallen apart, with the Sunni faction quitting al-Maliki�s cabinet. This disastrous development was likely to hold the headlines until the end of the week, when Congress would head home to discuss this latest war calamity with already war-weary constituents. A Minnesota Miracle Wednesday afternoon could have added even more woes to the White House. America�s first and only Muslim congressman, Keith Ellison, appeared on CNN�s Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer to discuss some scorching anti-Bush comments he had made on July 8 to constituents in Minneapolis, in which he had compared 9/11 to the Reichstag Fire, and George Bush to Adolph Hitler. In 1933 Hitler used the Reichstag Fire, carried out under his orders, to establish a dictatorship in Germany. Ellison�s analysis is accepted by most of the Muslim world, much of the non-Muslim world, and a growing minority of Americans. Rather than defend it, though, Ellison backed down with apologies in his interview with Blitzer, saying that his remarks were a "rookie mistake," never to be repeated. Perhaps Ellison�s retreat from his remarks was an attempt to stave off the disaster that frequently befalls those who disrupt the political paradigm. If so, it didn�t work. Two hours after Ellison�s mea culpa, his congressional district suffered a freak disaster with the collapse of the I-35 bridge into the Mississippi River. One man�s loss is another�s gain, though. In the news, the collapse of the Minneapolis bridge supplanted the collapse of the al-Maliki government and the Bush White House for the rest of Wednesday..., then Thursday..., then Friday. By Saturday the congressman who had accused the unitary executive of treason was with Bush himself, taking a tour of his afflicted district, and begging for the relief of federal funds. A Cowardly Congress It�s hard to fathom why the Democratic Congress would bow down to the unitary executive before skipping town for summer vacation, but that�s just what they have done. Last week Congress gave the White House the gift of expanded executive power by its approval of the 9/11 Commission�s recommendations, further extending the reach of the unitary executive. Friday, the Senate voted 60-28 in favor of granting Bush and Gonzales more power to conduct domestic surveillance without the trouble of a court warrant. The House followed suit Saturday, with a vote of 227-183. A Dodging DeFazio On the same day that the Minneapolis bridge fell into the Mississippi, the White House refused a written request by House Homeland Security chairman Bernie Thompson and Oregon Congressman Peter DeFazio to read classified annexes of NSPD-51, the presidential order, announced in May, by which Bush can declare himself dictator in the event of a natural catastrophe like Katrina � or a terror attack like 9/11-2B. DeFazio�s Oregon is the target of "Noble Resolve," an upcoming 9/11-2B military exercise scheduled for August 20-24 that includes a nuclear attack on Portland. Pacific Northwesterners are increasingly alarmed that they may be the targets of a false flag nuclear attack, or the fallout from it. You can�t blame them. After all, according to all sources, left and right, 911-2B is the only thing that can revitalize the war president and the war plan. Oregon�s DeFazio is unfazed by it all, or pretends to be. Penny Dodge, his chief of staff, refuses to answer questions from media about his failure. DeFazio has taken to the Internet and airwaves to urge his constituents to relax � despite his inability to examine NSPD-51, and his unwillingness to examine the possibility that they may be targets for a military exercise. He urges trust in the motives of the unitary executive. In doing so DeFazio fails in his duty, and acts the part of Bush�s buffoon in a comedy of terrors. Captain May is a former Army military intelligence and public affairs officer, as well as a former NBC editorial writer. His political and military analyses have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, the Houston Chronicle and Military Intelligence Magazine. http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolut...sp?a=1729&z=162

MARTIAL LAW PLAN KEPT SECRET

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"These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of newspapers and the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of public office officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government." - Teddy Roosevelt

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I'm thinking that perhaps you're ability to twist people's words is overdeveloped or your reading comprehension is incredibly lacking, but either way, if you look back at my post you might notice that it said, "for my liking." They've been using my government's public assistance programs to interweave socialistic elements into America for quite some time now. I've been saying this for a few years now and have even posted a video that offers an explanation as to how and why they're doing it. Here it is for a third time...

Man, they're always taking that video down!!

Here it is AGAIN:



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4446387174017711777

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"The Rockefellers are the epitome of the nation's permanent Establishment: governments change, economics fluctuate, foreign alliances shift - the Rockefellers prevail." - Walter Cronkite

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Originally posted by XaNaX I wonder how long before people start posting detailed accounts of how George Bush is gonna blow up a city with an nuke and then use this to make himself dictator of the USA.

I don't think that I would put it past them but I kind of doubt that they would make Dubya our dictator

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speaking of Rockefeller, here's a little history lesson on the roots of the UN

Although this is the history of the UN as presented by Rudy Giuliani, it's being hosted on YouTube so you people really shouldn't watch it.

lmao @ the wannabe thought police

I haven't read this book yet so for all I know it could be just more disinfo mixed with enough fact to make it appear credible. However, it looks awfully interesting so I'm definitely going to have to read it!!

At first glance, I thought that it was funny how this summary of it called David Rockefeller a millionaire and not a billionaire but I'm willing to look past that in order to find other, more useful information.


Is there a secret world government?

A book written by former British intelligence officer John Coleman was recently released in Russia. Coleman details a conspiracy of the world's elite against mankind

Svetlana Kuzina � 01.04.2008

The Committee of Three Hundred

Many people no longer believe that presidents, premier ministers and other "visible" officials rule their countries. Instead, they suspect that the real authority � one that is powerful, unwavering and secret � is concentrated in the hands of others. Like the masons for example. The truly paranoid have devised the so-called "International Conspiracy Theory," which tells how a handful of wealthy, highly positioned individuals rule the world. This group of decision-makers launches wars, invents deadly diseases and pumps the population full of narcotics, alcohol and pornography to get rid of the world's dead weight. Consequently, a population of 1 billion select individuals will someday remain. They will freely enjoy the blessings of nature � clean air, freshwater and natural food.

It seems ludicrous, but recently a British intelligence officer from M16 has asserted that this secret international organization does exist in his book, "The Conspirators Hierarchy: The Committee of Three Hundred."

"During my career as an officer in British intelligence," Coleman writes, "I received access to strictly confidential documents on numerous occasions. Their contents were unexpectedly straightforward. I learned that there are powers that control the governments of many nations. I was taken aback and decided to inform a world living in ignorance. Imagine a powerful group that doesn't recognize any national borders that is involved in the financial, insurance, coal-mining, pharmaceutical and oil industries -- whose members only answer to the group. This is the �Committee of Three Hundred,' an elite group that has ruled the world from 1897. Its backbone today is the world's 300 most influential people."

Powerful conspirators

Coleman writes that secret organizations and think tanks work for the Committee of Three Hundred. A list of these institutions follows.

As of 1921, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has consisted of the most influential individuals in the U.S. and Western world, ranging from current and previous presidents to CIA officials. The CFR was established by the American banker J.P. Morgan, and controls the U.S. Federal Reserve system, New York Stock Exchange and leading mass media.

In 1954, the Bilderberg Group held its original conference uniting the American and European elite. (The organization was named after the Hotel de Bilderberg in Oosterbeek in the Netherlands where the meeting took place.)

In 1973, a third influential structure came into being � the Trilateral Commission � consisting of representatives from the U.S., Europe and Japan. The organization's goal is to "create a mechanism of global planning and long-term repartition of resources."

Since 1968, the Club of Rome has been one of the most important foreign affairs divisions of the Committee of Three Hundred. The organization unites scholars, globalists, futurists and internationalists of various suites. The organization has its own private intelligence agencies and "borrows" information from Interpol, the FSB and Mossad.

The millionaire executive David Rockefeller controls the activities of these organizations.

A short list of periphery organizations lending assistance to these four intelligence giants are: Round Table, David Millner Group, Order of St John, The German Marshall Fund of the United States, The China Fund, Inc., Fabian Society, Black Nobility, Mont Pelerin Society, Hellfire Club and the Masons.

The mother of all international think thanks and research institutions is the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, which is beginning to help the Stanford Research Institute.

Coleman writes that past and present members of the Committee of Three Hundred include the Queen of England, the Queen of the Netherlands, the Queen of Denmark, European royal families, George Bush, Edward Carter, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Winston Churchill, Francois Mitterrand, Jean Monet, Ernest Oppenheimer and his heir Henry.

In the mid-1990s, Russia was invited to participate in establishing a single world state.

"Boris Yeltsin adhered to the decrees of the Committee of Three Hundred in an experiment to bind Russia to the will of the ruling elite," writes Coleman.

Heap of plans

Coleman describes the new world order as seen by the Committee of Three Hundred.

Leaders: There will be a single world state and monetary system ruled by unelected oligarchs and their royal lineage, who will appoint leaders from their own ranks in a feudal system as existed in the Middle Ages.

Religion: Only one religion will be permitted in the form of a state church. The church has existed secretly since 1920. All Christian churches will be prohibited.

Control: All individuals will have an identification number. The numbers will be entered into a composite file at NATO in Brussels together with details dossiers.

Family: Marriages will be canceled. Children will be taken from their parents at an early age. They will be raised at special institutions like state property. Free sex will be compulsory.

Children: If a woman gets pregnant after having two children, she will be immediately sent for an abortion and sterilization.

Resources: Only members of the Committee of Three Hundred and select individuals will have the right to make use of natural resources. Agriculture will be completely controlled by the Committee of Three Hundred, and food processing will be strictly controlled.

Social Policy: At least 4 billion "useless individuals" will be exterminated by 2050 as a result of territorial wars, organized deadly epidemics, quickly spreading diseases and hunger. Electrical energy, food and water will sufficiently provide for the white population of Western Europe and North America and only later different races. The populations of Canada, Western Europe and the U.S. will decrease more quickly than on other continents until the population reaches the controllable level of 1 billion. Of these individuals, 500 million will be Chinese and Japanese, who will be "chosen" as they have been subject to strict regulations and unquestioningly obeying authorities for centuries.

Current situation

Coleman asserts that individuals who are party to the single world state are strenuously brainwashing the population, rewriting history, creating ideal individuals and working to decrease the population.

Profiling is a method developed in 1922 by an order of the Royal Institute of International Affairs. The method was based on principles similar to today's NLP, which helps to influence people's ideas and decisions. The method was used by Major John Riz, British military specialist, on 80,000 "guinea pigs" from the British Army and prisoners of war, who were subjected to many types of psychological testing. Later, a special brainwashing center for the civil population was established at the University of Sussex. This super-secret organization was called the Institute of Scientific Politics.

The Rockefeller Fund subsidized scholarly work to create an ideal history after the end of World War II, when Anglo-American troops naturally came out the winners.

The Rockefeller Fund is also sponsoring genetic maps of the qualities of the ideal human in closed laboratories on the basis of the genome to grow test-tube geniuses and docile invincible soldiers.

A program regulating the growth of the population was approved at a conference of the world state. Its main goal is to ensure a low birth level in countries outside Western civilization. The program covers 100 countries and utilizes measures such as the forced sterilization of men and women.


Military Officer's Opinion

Vladimir Nikiforov, former KGB colonel, senior officer of the First Division of the Fifth Department of the Committee of Foreign Economic Relations, says the Masons have bought everything.

"In the 1980s, I was a supervisor in Southeastern Asia. I worked in Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia and China. Of course, I met with my colleagues from intelligence agencies and worked with the states of these nations. And on numerous occasions I was told about the existence of a world state in personal conversations. All presidents resist its dictatorship, but they know that they have long been puppets of this ruling system composing only 2 percent of the world's population � the richest individuals. I know for sure that the Queen of England and King of Spain and his wife are members. This so-called world state bought everything. They wage wars under the pretense of huge state interests and safety and invent artificial diseases such as the Bird Flu to control people and get rid of human dead weight. As a result, as I've been told, this secret world state will create a controllable mass. The center of the organization is in New York on Fifth Avenue in a large temple not far from where the twin towers were destroyed in 2001. They meet there from time to time."

http://bishkek.kp.ru/daily/24073/310548/

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Coleman describes the new world order as seen by the Committee of Three Hundred. Leaders: There will be a single world state and monetary system ruled by unelected oligarchs and their royal lineage, who will appoint leaders from their own ranks in a feudal system as existed in the Middle Ages. Religion: Only one religion will be permitted in the form of a state church. The church has existed secretly since 1920. All Christian churches will be prohibited. Control: All individuals will have an identification number. The numbers will be entered into a composite file at NATO in Brussels together with details dossiers. Family: Marriages will be canceled. Children will be taken from their parents at an early age. They will be raised at special institutions like state property. Free sex will be compulsory. Children: If a woman gets pregnant after having two children, she will be immediately sent for an abortion and sterilization. Resources: Only members of the Committee of Three Hundred and select individuals will have the right to make use of natural resources. Agriculture will be completely controlled by the Committee of Three Hundred, and food processing will be strictly controlled. Social Policy: At least 4 billion "useless individuals" will be exterminated by 2050 as a result of territorial wars, organized deadly epidemics, quickly spreading diseases and hunger. Electrical energy, food and water will sufficiently provide for the white population of Western Europe and North America and only later different races. The populations of Canada, Western Europe and the U.S. will decrease more quickly than on other continents until the population reaches the controllable level of 1 billion. Of these individuals, 500 million will be Chinese and Japanese, who will be "chosen" as they have been subject to strict regulations and unquestioningly obeying authorities for centuries.

wow.

Trancer-x,
Why do you not like the Rockefellers? Is it because they assests are estimated to be in the trillions?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Trancer-x, Why do you not like the Rockefellers? Is it because they assests are estimated to be in the trillions?

I guess one of my reasons is because they're admittedly part of the cabal that's trying to take over the world.

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"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller, Memoirs, p.405

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I guess one of my reasons is because they're admittedly part of the cabal that's trying to take over the world.

I'd like to know why people are part of an evil plan lasting dozens of decades, and one that they most likely wont live to reap the rewards from. Talk about forward-thinking!

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I guess one of my reasons is because they're admittedly part of the cabal that's trying to take over the world.

And what about the rest of the text explaining the quote?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru And what about the rest of the text explaining the quote?

Trancer never provides that.

Rockefeller was arguing that the pursuit of a uniform set of rules and norms is not necessarily a bad thing to pursue. After all, that was the original spirit of the UN, was it not? Greater cooperation and greater integration leads to less conflict. That's the globalist perspective that Trancer crusades against.

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's �happened before�.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

http://www.urban75.org/info/conspiraloons.html

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru And what about the rest of the text explaining the quote?

To be honest, there really doesn't need to be much more explaining. This all has been said and expounded upon literally hundreds or thousands of times but all of the people who are living in a bubble (most everyone) are still too busy trying to decide whether or not it's legitimate or not to make any kind of dent in the steamroller that's about to roll over all of our a$$es.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru And what about the rest of the text explaining the quote?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X To be honest, there really doesn't need to be much more explaining.

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

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